Re: Modularity and all the things

2019-10-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > What do you mean by "disallowing" default streams? Do you mean > removing them from Fedora? 1. Preventing the creation of new default streams. Use the non-modular branches instead. AND THEN 2. Retiring all existing default streams, merging them back into the non-mod

Re: Modularity and all the things

2019-10-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Stephen Gallagher wrote: > The ideal behavior would be for there to be UX that lets users know > that if they enable one of these streams, it's > unsupported/unsupportable (such as if they tried to use a > stripped-down version of a build tool). The module streams have a > "description" field that

Re: Modularity and all the things

2019-10-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Stephen Gallagher wrote: > By all means, if there are user experience problems, highlight those. Just > don't draw the conclusion that the whole system is unsalvageable. Let the > team that's working on it figure out if there's a way to fix the UX or if > it truly does mean that a structural flaw e

Re: Issues with the retrace service?

2019-10-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 6:18 PM Peter Robinson wrote: > > > I think retrace service is running on RHEL 7.7 server and since we have > > zstd rpms in Fedora 31 [0], it won't work. I don't know what's the ETA for > > fix, I can ask on Tuesday, if there is any update on this issue. > > It's a probl

Re: Issues with the retrace service?

2019-10-26 Thread Peter Robinson
> I think retrace service is running on RHEL 7.7 server and since we have zstd > rpms in Fedora 31 [0], it won't work. I don't know what's the ETA for fix, I > can ask on Tuesday, if there is any update on this issue. It's a problem on RHEL-8 too then. > Until then, you'll probably have to gene

Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-26 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 3:41 PM Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 02:23:33PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > > > > > Any reasons? Defaulting to ancient software conflicts with our > > > > “First” foundation. > > > > > > Simple reason - while Oracle decided to move Java to

Re: Does grub2-pc do anything on an EFI system?

2019-10-26 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 8:33 AM Javier Martinez Canillas < jav...@dowhile0.org> wrote: > Hello Richard, > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 1:23 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > > I removed it from my system and I'm about to reboot :) > > Yes, it's OK to remove the grub2-pc package on an EFI system. > One probl

Re: Issues with the retrace service?

2019-10-26 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
Hi, I think retrace service is running on RHEL 7.7 server and since we have zstd rpms in Fedora 31 [0], it won't work. I don't know what's the ETA for fix, I can ask on Tuesday, if there is any update on this issue. Until then, you'll probably have to generate stack traces locally :/ [0] https:/

Re: python-cssselect2/F31: unable to create update in bodhi

2019-10-26 Thread Felix Schwarz
Am 26.10.19 um 15:47 schrieb Fabio Valentini: You should always be able to create the update "manually" by not using the search entry, but pasting the build NVR (and bugs, if you have any) manually. Thanks - I was able to create the update by doing that. Felix ___

Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-26 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 02:23:33PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > > > Any reasons? Defaulting to ancient software conflicts with our “First” > > > foundation. > > > > Simple reason - while Oracle decided to move Java to a faster, time > > based release cycle the Java community essential

Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-26 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 1:07 PM Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 15:59:27 +0200, you wrote: > > >On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 03:53:28PM +0200, Jiri Vanek wrote: > >> any package can switch to jdk11, but sysem jdk should be jdk8, at least > >> for some more time... > > > > Any reasons?

Issues with the retrace service?

2019-10-26 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi all, It seems with F-31 on x86_64 the retrace service seems to fail every single time I try to submit a crash report, is there known issues with the service? Peter ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email t

Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 19:07 Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 15:59:27 +0200, you wrote: > > >On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 03:53:28PM +0200, Jiri Vanek wrote: > >> any package can switch to jdk11, but sysem jdk should be jdk8, at least > for some more time... > > > > Any reasons? Default

Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-26 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 15:59:27 +0200, you wrote: >On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 03:53:28PM +0200, Jiri Vanek wrote: >> any package can switch to jdk11, but sysem jdk should be jdk8, at least for >> some more time... > > Any reasons? Defaulting to ancient software conflicts with our “First” > foundatio

Re: [fedora-java] Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-26 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 10:33:59 -0400, you wrote: >On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 9:53 AM Jiri Vanek wrote: >> >> any package can switch to jdk11, but sysem jdk should be jdk8, at least for >> some more time... >> > >If anything, we're late to the party of moving to JDK 11 by default. >Java 8 has been EOL

Re: review swap for vcglib

2019-10-26 Thread J. Scheurich
Cause the last review is too old, i need a fresh review for vcglib: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1677989 I also cannot find the "muftii" FAS account you listed in this bug ... Sorry, typo: it should be "mufti11" 8-( I'm available for any review in exchange. My initial targe

Re: [fedora-java] Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-26 Thread Jiri Vanek
On 10/26/19 4:33 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 9:53 AM Jiri Vanek wrote: >> >> any package can switch to jdk11, but sysem jdk should be jdk8, at least for >> some more time... >> > > If anything, we're late to the party of moving to JDK 11 by default. > Java 8 has been EOL for

Re: [fedora-java] Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 9:53 AM Jiri Vanek wrote: > > any package can switch to jdk11, but sysem jdk should be jdk8, at least for > some more time... > If anything, we're late to the party of moving to JDK 11 by default. Java 8 has been EOL for a while now. -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only

Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 15:54 Jiri Vanek wrote: > any package can switch to jdk11, but sysem jdk should be jdk8, at least > for some more time... > Would you care to elaborate why? Fabio > > On 10/25/19 8:47 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 25. 10. 19 19:30, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > >> Hello, >

Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-26 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 03:53:28PM +0200, Jiri Vanek wrote: > any package can switch to jdk11, but sysem jdk should be jdk8, at least for > some more time... Any reasons? Defaulting to ancient software conflicts with our “First” foundation. -- Tomasz Torcz "Never underestimate

Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-26 Thread Jiri Vanek
any package can switch to jdk11, but sysem jdk should be jdk8, at least for some more time... On 10/25/19 8:47 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 25. 10. 19 19:30, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Currently default Java runtime in Fedora is OpenJDK 8. This is not the >> latest OpenJDK packaged,

Re: python-cssselect2/F31: unable to create update in bodhi

2019-10-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 15:22 Felix Schwarz wrote: > Hi, > > somehow I'm unable to create a new update for my new package > "python-cssselect2" (F31) and I'd like to know why. > > When I go to https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/new and I enter > "python-cssselect2" in the "packages" field, bod

Re: python-cssselect2/F31: unable to create update in bodhi

2019-10-26 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 15:21 +0200, Felix Schwarz wrote: > Hi, > > somehow I'm unable to create a new update for my new package > "python-cssselect2" (F31) and I'd like to know why. > > When I go to https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/new and I enter > "python-cssselect2" in the "packages" f

Re: Does grub2-pc do anything on an EFI system?

2019-10-26 Thread Javier Martinez Canillas
Hello Richard, On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 1:23 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > > The grub2-pc package doesn't seem to do anything except provide a broken link > in /etc to grub2.cfg... > You are correct, the package is only needed for legacy BIOS installs. There was a bug in Anaconda that caused grub2-pc

python-cssselect2/F31: unable to create update in bodhi

2019-10-26 Thread Felix Schwarz
Hi, somehow I'm unable to create a new update for my new package "python-cssselect2" (F31) and I'd like to know why. When I go to https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/new and I enter "python-cssselect2" in the "packages" field, bodhi says "unable to find any package…". Bodhi only shows "p

Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 13:08 Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 11:27 PM Fabio Valentini > wrote: > > > > E.g. would the dependent OpenJDK 8 packages still build in stable > releases if > > > > this change is done globally and for example if Ursa Major/Prime/... > is activated? > >

Does grub2-pc do anything on an EFI system?

2019-10-26 Thread Richard Shaw
The grub2-pc package doesn't seem to do anything except provide a broken link in /etc to grub2.cfg... ll /etc/grub2.cfg lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 22 May 20 12:19 /etc/grub2.cfg -> ../boot/grub2/grub.cfg The /boot/grub2/grub.cfg must be a %ghost entry in the rpm as the file doesn't actually exist:

Re: GNU IceCat Updates

2019-10-26 Thread Alireza Hayati
Do you know when it'll be ready? How much progress? And some days ago Firefox 70 released. Will new IceCat be shipped with Firefox 70? On 10/26/19 2:15 PM, Antonio Trande wrote: > Hi. > Glad to hear your interest about IceCat. > > IceCat-68.2.0 is still not entirely ready for stable releases: some

Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-26 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 11:27 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > E.g. would the dependent OpenJDK 8 packages still build in stable > > > releases if > > > this change is done globally and for example if Ursa Major/Prime/... is > > > activated? > > > > Changing underlying OpenJDK version of maven:3.

Re: GNU IceCat Updates

2019-10-26 Thread Antonio Trande
Hi. Glad to hear your interest about IceCat. IceCat-68.2.0 is still not entirely ready for stable releases: some features like personalized "about:icecat" homepage and privacy protection addons are not properly working/recognized yet. On 25/10/19 23:55, Alireza Hayati wrote: > Hello. I don't know

Re: review swap for vcglib

2019-10-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 12:15 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 12:02 PM J. Scheurich wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Cause the last review is too old, i need a fresh review for vcglib: > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1677989 I also cannot find the "muftii" FAS

Re: review swap for vcglib

2019-10-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 12:02 PM J. Scheurich wrote: > > Hi, > > Cause the last review is too old, i need a fresh review for vcglib: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1677989 It's usually enough to ask the original reviewer to unset and set the "fedora-review: +" flag if the package

review swap for vcglib

2019-10-26 Thread J. Scheurich
Hi, Cause the last review is too old, i need a fresh review for vcglib: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1677989 I'm available for any review in exchange. My initial target is wdune (white_dune), but it also requires OpenSubdiv. There is a fedora 30 package for OpenSubdiv and a revie