Re: Unretiring some nodejs packages

2019-08-26 Thread Vít Ondruch
Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you. This will help to keep jQuery in Fedora. Vít Dne 27. 08. 19 v 0:09 Ben Rosser napsal(a): > I noticed that one of my nodejs packages is broken in Koschei at the > moment due to some broken deps: > > https://apps.fedoraproject.org/koschei/package/nodejs-qtdata

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Chris Murphy
Ordinarily, I'd argue against any negative UI/Ux where the user is harassed. But as developers are a large target audience, in particular for Workstation edition, I think demonstrating suboptimal behavior in applications while providing additional security could be serving a bigger purpose. Window

Re: Join the new Minimization Team

2019-08-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 8/26/19 9:39 PM, John Harris wrote: I'm not saying not to use containers. There is a right way to do it, and a wrong way to do it. A container should be as the name describes, a containerized installation of the distro in question, with the utilities needed to support a given role. Not somethi

Re: Join the new Minimization Team

2019-08-26 Thread John Harris
On Monday, August 26, 2019 9:39:47 PM MST John Harris wrote: > On Monday, August 26, 2019 9:16:30 PM MST Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 06:46:29PM -0700, John Harris wrote: > > > > > > > On Monday, August 26, 2019 5:50:53 AM MST Christian Glombek wrote: > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Join the new Minimization Team

2019-08-26 Thread John Harris
On Monday, August 26, 2019 9:16:30 PM MST Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 06:46:29PM -0700, John Harris wrote: > > > On Monday, August 26, 2019 5:50:53 AM MST Christian Glombek wrote: > > > > > > > > Wow, a model like _distroless_ is exactly what I think we need in and > > > from >

Re: Join the new Minimization Team

2019-08-26 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 06:46:29PM -0700, John Harris wrote: > On Monday, August 26, 2019 5:50:53 AM MST Christian Glombek wrote: > > > > Wow, a model like _distroless_ is exactly what I think we need in and from > > Fedora to enable making those minimal, purpose-built and service-specific > > con

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Modularity Team (weekly)

2019-08-26 Thread nils
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Modularity Team (weekly) on 2019-08-27 from 15:00:00 to 16:00:00 UTC At fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Meeting of the Modularity Team. More information available at: [Modularity Team Docs](https://docs.pagure.o

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Christopher
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 9:30 PM John Harris wrote: [SNIP] > I cannot imagine who approved this firewall configuration. This is broken. > This is a critical vulnerability, in my opinion. > I think "approved" is probably the wrong word: more like "pushed it through". FESCo explicitly rejected the p

رد: Non-responsive maintainer Mosaab Alzoubi

2019-08-26 Thread مصعب الزعبي
Replied on https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2212 من: Vitaly Zaitsev via devel ‏‏تم الإرسال: 20/ذو الحجة/1440 11:27 ص إلى: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org نسخة: Vitaly Zaitsev ‏‏الموضوع: Non-responsive maintainer Mosaab Alzoubi Hello all. According to non-responsive

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Markus Larsson writes: « HTML content follows » On 26 August 2019 12:56:42 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: What issues are you referring to? I don't believe it is reasonable to believe everything would work exactly the same with Discourse - but close enough should be sufficient. There are also

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread John Harris
On Monday, August 26, 2019 4:25:52 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Here you go... > https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-vs-email-mailing-lists/54298 This was clearly written by somebody who has an agenda. Just look at the last sentence in the opening paragraph! Other than that, I'll address the

Re: Join the new Minimization Team

2019-08-26 Thread John Harris
On Monday, August 26, 2019 5:50:53 AM MST Christian Glombek wrote: > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 5:26 PM Colin Walters wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Daniel Walsh wrote: > > > If you want small images, just use buildah. > > > > Dockerfile-based multi-stage builds are significantly more p

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread John Harris
On Monday, August 26, 2019 8:15:07 AM MST Markus Larsson wrote: > On 26 August 2019 16:04:12 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: > > >> On 26 August 2019 14:27:53 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" > > >wrote: > > > >> > >> Was it a lengthy conversation where you needed context from earlier > > > >posts? > > > >>

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread John Harris
On Monday, August 26, 2019 5:27:53 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > It seems that the only thing in that link that has merit in regards to > > this list is that discourse allow editing of messages that has been > > sent. > > > > As for the other things I disagree with pretty much everything. I don'

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread John Harris
On Monday, August 26, 2019 4:54:09 AM MST Markus Larsson wrote: > It seems that the only thing in that link that has merit in regards to this > list is that discourse allow editing of messages that has been sent. > > As for the other things I disagree with pretty much everything. I don't > think e

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread John Harris
On Monday, August 26, 2019 8:41:30 AM MST Christopher wrote: > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 9:08 AM wrote: > > > > > > > > > Well the thing is, blocknig ports tends to break applications that want to > > use those ports. We're not going to do that, period. It also doesn't > > really accomplish anythin

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread John Harris
On Monday, August 26, 2019 7:25:27 AM MST Iñaki Ucar wrote: > On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 15:25, Robert Marcano > wrote: > > > > > > On 8/26/19 9:07 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Well the thing is, blocknig ports tends to break applications that want > > > to use those ports. W

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread John Harris
On Monday, August 26, 2019 6:15:45 AM MST Robert Marcano wrote: > On 8/26/19 9:07 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > > > > > Well the thing is, blocknig ports tends to break applications that want > > to use those ports. We're not going to do that, period. It also doesn't > > really accomplish a

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread John Harris
On Monday, August 26, 2019 6:07:30 AM MST mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > Well the thing is, blocknig ports tends to break applications that want > to use those ports. We're not going to do that, period. It also doesn't > really accomplish anything: either your app or service needs network > access a

[Test-Announce] Fedora 31 Beta Freeze

2019-08-26 Thread Mohan Boddu
Hi all, Today's an important day on the Fedora 31 schedule[1], with several significant cut-offs. First of all today is the Bodhi activation point [2]. That means that from now all Fedora 31 packages must be submitted to updates-testing and pass the relevant requirements[3] before they will be mar

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Jason Montleon
And even if they implemented it your way you are expecting that the developer of the application and all the libraries it uses have written perfect bug free code with zero vulnerabilities. By that logic we should set selinux to disabled since it sometimes causes things to break, can be difficult to

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Björn Persson
Jason Montleon wrote: >Imagine starting up VNC, having no intention of opening port 59xx, and >intending to use SSH tunneling to connect to the service. > >You think you're being more diligent only to later find out the service >is actually exposed by the default firewall policy. When I looked a

Re: What projects can we highlight for Hacktoberfest?

2019-08-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 10:46 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > We're just over a month away from Hacktoberfest[1], a month-long event > where people can earn a t-shirt by contributing to open source > projects (or at least ones hosted on GitHub). It occurs to me that we > could have a post on the Communit

Re: libqalculate soname change

2019-08-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2019-08-26 at 17:47 -0400, Mukundan Ragavan wrote: > libqalculate soname bump is happening with v3.3 (libqalculate.so.21.2.0). > > The following packages are affected - > > plasma-workspace > step > cantor > qalculate-kde > > I will rebuild the packages on both rawhide and F31 tomorrow.

Unretiring some nodejs packages

2019-08-26 Thread Ben Rosser
I noticed that one of my nodejs packages is broken in Koschei at the moment due to some broken deps: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/koschei/package/nodejs-qtdatastream? Looking into this, it seems some of the pieces of nodejs-grunt were FTBFS and got retired. I'm currently working on fixing the F

libqalculate soname change

2019-08-26 Thread Mukundan Ragavan
libqalculate soname bump is happening with v3.3 (libqalculate.so.21.2.0). The following packages are affected - plasma-workspace step cantor qalculate-kde I will rebuild the packages on both rawhide and F31 tomorrow. Maintainers, if you do not want me to touch F31, please let me know. Mukundan.

What projects can we highlight for Hacktoberfest?

2019-08-26 Thread Ben Cotton
We're just over a month away from Hacktoberfest[1], a month-long event where people can earn a t-shirt by contributing to open source projects (or at least ones hosted on GitHub). It occurs to me that we could have a post on the Community Blog (or maybe Fedora Magazine) that directs folks toward Fe

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2019-08-26 at 14:51 -0400, Dan Book wrote: > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 8:31 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > Hello all. > > > > Is it okay that firewall is completely disabled by default (opened all > > ports 1025-65535) on Fedora Workstation? > >

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Dan Book
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 8:31 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hello all. > > Is it okay that firewall is completely disabled by default (opened all > ports 1025-65535) on Fedora Workstation? > > I think that this is a major vulnerability and it must be fixed by

Re: Fedora 31: Noninstallable Python 2 packages to be retired just before the beta freeze

2019-08-26 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
You could ask for a freeze exception that covers your case On August 26, 2019 8:14:36 PM GMT+02:00, "Miro Hrončok" wrote: >On 26. 08. 19 11:24, Miro Hrončok wrote: >> In line with the approved Fedora 31 change, packages that fail to >install due to >> missing Python 2 dependencies are to be rem

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 26.08.2019 15:07, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > Well the thing is, blocknig ports tends to break applications that want > to use those ports All ports must be opened explicitly. Current configuration is look like "come and hack me anyone". > Unless you have malware installed (in which case, yo

Re: Modular packages requiring Python 3.7

2019-08-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 08. 19 20:02, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Readded devel list (hope thats ok?) Yes! Sorry about sending it just to you. On 8/26/19 10:27 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 26. 08. 19 19:00, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On 8/21/19 8:59 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: The following Fedora 30 modular packages require pyt

Re: Fedora 31: Noninstallable Python 2 packages to be retired just before the beta freeze

2019-08-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 08. 19 11:24, Miro Hrončok wrote: In line with the approved Fedora 31 change, packages that fail to install due to missing Python 2 dependencies are to be removed. I plan to retire the following packages (or just drop their python2 subpackages) one day before the beta freeze (2019-08-28)

Re: Modular packages requiring Python 3.7

2019-08-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Readded devel list (hope thats ok?) On 8/26/19 10:27 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 26. 08. 19 19:00, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On 8/21/19 8:59 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: >>> The following Fedora 30 modular packages require python(abi) = 3.7: >>> >>> $ repoquery --repo=updates-modular --whatrequires 'pytho

Re: f32/rawhide, nothing provides module(platform:f31)

2019-08-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 8/26/19 7:57 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Kaleb Keithley: > >> `dnf update` on my f32/rawhide machine is giving me: >> >> Problem 1: conflicting requests >> - nothing provides module(platform:f31) needed by module >> bat:latest:3120190714171319:22d7e2a5-0.x86_64 >> Problem 2: conflicting r

Re: fedora-gpg-keys not updated yet again

2019-08-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 8/24/19 4:12 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > On 8/23/19 12:21 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On 8/23/19 4:12 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 8/22/19 12:58 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On 8/21/19 9:27 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > On 8/19/19 6:59 AM, Pavel Raiskup wrote: >> On Monday,

Re: Modular packages requiring Python 3.7

2019-08-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 8/21/19 8:59 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > The following Fedora 30 modular packages require python(abi) = 3.7: > > $ repoquery --repo=updates-modular --whatrequires 'python(abi) = 3.7' > meson-0:0.50.1-1.module_f30+3966+49c83da1.noarch > python3-aexpect-0:1.5.1-5.module_f30+4307+91f2a6b8.noarch > p

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Robert Marcano
On 8/26/19 11:35 AM, Dan Williams wrote: On Mon, 2019-08-26 at 09:15 -0400, Robert Marcano wrote: On 8/26/19 9:07 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: Well the thing is, blocknig ports tends to break applications that want to use those ports. We're not going to do that, period. It also doesn't reall

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Christopher
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 9:08 AM wrote: > > > Well the thing is, blocknig ports tends to break applications that want to > use those ports. We're not going to do that, period. It also doesn't really > accomplish anything: either your app or service needs network access and you > have whitelisted

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2019-08-26 at 09:15 -0400, Robert Marcano wrote: > On 8/26/19 9:07 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > > Well the thing is, blocknig ports tends to break applications that > > want > > to use those ports. We're not going to do that, period. It also > > doesn't > > really accomplish anything

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Markus Larsson
On 26 August 2019 17:28:03 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: >> On 26 August 2019 16:04:12 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: >> >> The only reason to bring it up when replying to me is that you think >it applies here. So >> while you explicitly did not mention me there's not very many other >ways it can

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Gerald B. Cox
> On 26 August 2019 16:04:12 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" > The only reason to bring it up when replying to me is that you think it > applies here. So > while you explicitly did not mention me there's not very many other ways it > can be > interpreted. > > So the best way is to sneak it in? > That i

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Markus Larsson
On 26 August 2019 16:04:12 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: >> On 26 August 2019 14:27:53 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: >> >> Was it a lengthy conversation where you needed context from earlier >posts? >> Was is easily at hand right in your email client? >> >> >> That's exactly my point. The advan

Open NeuroFedora team meeting: 1500 UTC on Thursday, 29th August.

2019-08-26 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello everyone, You are invited to attend the Open NeuroFedora team meeting this week on Thursday at 1500UTC in #fedora-neuro on IRC (Freenode): https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#fedora-neuro You can convert the meeting time to your local time using: $ date --date='TZ="UTC" 1500 next Thu'

Re: f32/rawhide, nothing provides module(platform:f31)

2019-08-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Kaleb Keithley: > `dnf update` on my f32/rawhide machine is giving me: > > Problem 1: conflicting requests > - nothing provides module(platform:f31) needed by module > bat:latest:3120190714171319:22d7e2a5-0.x86_64 > Problem 2: conflicting requests > - nothing provides module(platform:f31)

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Artem Tim
Great point. Maybe in perfect world such services as VNC should have default port <1024. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fed

Re: [EXT]Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Jason Montleon
I don't see how that answer makes the users life any easier. Now rather than having to intentionally configure the firewall the user has to add flags or config options to listen on additional ports. It is just replacing one complexity with another. The current behavior, in an effort to make ca

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 15:25, Robert Marcano wrote: > > On 8/26/19 9:07 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > > > > Well the thing is, blocknig ports tends to break applications that want > > to use those ports. We're not going to do that, period. It also doesn't > > really accomplish anything: either

Re: [EXT]Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Anderson, Charles R
Perhaps VNC should default to listing only on the loopback interface. On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 08:55:59AM -0400, Jason Montleon wrote: > Imagine starting up VNC, having no intention of opening port 59xx, and > intending to use SSH tunneling to connect to the service. > > You think you're being mo

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Alec Leamas
On 26/08/2019 16:12, Alec Leamas wrote: oops... Or, perhaps Postorious/GNU Mailman.  Fedora has moved to it and seems happy. It offers some web-related functionality on top of a traditional mailing. The evil of subscribing to both debian-devel and fedora-devel and mixing it up. Please

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Alec Leamas
On 26/08/2019 16:04, Gerald B. Cox wrote: The best way to solve this is to create a duplicate discussion group on Discourse for Development and monitor it's use. The only way people are going to be able to decide if it's good for them or not is to try it. _ Or, perhaps Postorious/GNU Mail

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Gerald B. Cox
> On 26 August 2019 14:27:53 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" > Was it a lengthy conversation where you needed context from earlier posts? > Was is easily at hand right in your email client? > > > That's exactly my point. The advantages listed are mere stated opinions. > Except > editing and community mo

Fedora 31 compose report: 20190826.n.0 changes

2019-08-26 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-31-20190825.n.0 NEW: Fedora-31-20190826.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 1 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 38 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 78.57 KiB Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of

Re: [HEADS-UP]: Mercurial with Python3 on rawhide?

2019-08-26 Thread Petr Stodulka
Not sure whether I understand correctly. The intention is to be able to install py2 & py3 in parallel, but it is not be requested to install both versions. I either updated the SPEC file regarding the changes made in mercurial's Makefiles, which I missed before. On 26. 08. 19 13:57, Neal Becker

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Robert Marcano
On 8/26/19 9:27 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:15 PM, Robert Marcano wrote: This is a reasonable point of view, until you notice Linux desktops evironments don't provide applications with a method to detect if they are running on a private network or not (See Windows

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread mcatanzaro
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:15 PM, Robert Marcano wrote: This is a reasonable point of view, until you notice Linux desktops evironments don't provide applications with a method to detect if they are running on a private network or not (See Windows Home, Office, Internet network settings). The

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Robert Marcano
On 8/26/19 9:07 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: Well the thing is, blocknig ports tends to break applications that want to use those ports. We're not going to do that, period. It also doesn't really accomplish anything: either your app or service needs network access and you have whitelisted

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Silvia Sánchez
Alexander, I don't remember if I used Fedora 20, I lost count of versions when they stopped having names, and I had gap somewhere. Said that, the issues seemed to be in Workstation and that's a flavour I seldom use. Regards, Lailah On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 14:46, Alexander Ploumistos < alex.pl

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread mcatanzaro
Well the thing is, blocknig ports tends to break applications that want to use those ports. We're not going to do that, period. It also doesn't really accomplish anything: either your app or service needs network access and you have whitelisted it (in which case the firewall provides no secur

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Jason Montleon
Imagine starting up VNC, having no intention of opening port 59xx, and intending to use SSH tunneling to connect to the service. You think you're being more diligent only to later find out the service is actually exposed by the default firewall policy. On 8/26/19 8:46 AM, Artem Tim wrote: co

Re: Join the new Minimization Team

2019-08-26 Thread Christian Glombek
On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 5:26 PM Colin Walters wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Daniel Walsh wrote: > > If you want small images, just use buildah. > > Dockerfile-based multi-stage builds are significantly more popular than > this and should really be mentioned first. > > I'm not sayi

Fedora-31-20190826.n.0 compose check report

2019-08-26 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 13/152 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-31-20190825.n.0): ID: 436097 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/436097 Old failures (same test faile

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Artem Tim
> completely disabled by default (opened all ports 1025-65535) on Fedora > Workstation? Not completely. Completely when from 1 to 65535. :) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Hello, On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 2:36 PM Silvia Sánchez wrote: > I don't think that's normal. I don't remember any moment in all these years > using Fedora that I ever had a completely disabled firewall. As a matter of fact, you did: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedo

Re: Request to add new groups to comps.xml

2019-08-26 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 22:28:48 -0400, Danny Lee wrote: > Hello devel, Hi Danny, Thanks for working on this! > The NeuroFedora SIG is working to create a Comp-Neuro Fedora Labs live > image/ installer.  We would also like group our packages into an > easier-to-install format for our target audienc

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Markus Larsson
On 26 August 2019 14:27:53 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: >> It seems that the only thing in that link that has merit in regards >to this list is that >> discourse allow editing of messages that has been sent. >> >> As for the other things I disagree with pretty much everything. I >don't think em

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Silvia Sánchez
Hello Vitaly, I don't think that's normal. I don't remember any moment in all these years using Fedora that I ever had a completely disabled firewall. If you ask me, that's a bug. Kind regards, Lailah On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 14:31, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wr

Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-26 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
Hello all. Is it okay that firewall is completely disabled by default (opened all ports 1025-65535) on Fedora Workstation? I think that this is a major vulnerability and it must be fixed by changing default zone to public. firewall-cmd --list-all FedoraWorkstation (active) target: default ic

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Gerald B. Cox
> It seems that the only thing in that link that has merit in regards to this > list is that > discourse allow editing of messages that has been sent. > > As for the other things I disagree with pretty much everything. I don't think > email is > too hard to use, I don't think large mailinglists

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20190826.n.0 changes

2019-08-26 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20190825.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20190826.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 6 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 78 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 13.67 MiB Size of dropped packages:0 B

Re: [Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2019-08-26 Fedora QA Meeting

2019-08-26 Thread Silvia Sánchez
Hello, I had a bug report I thought it could be important but now it's too late, so let's leave it for the next week. Regards, Lailah On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 04:06, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting tomorrow, as there > isn't a lot for the agenda. We

Re: "ERROR: Could not find useradd in chroot" in COPR rawhide builds

2019-08-26 Thread jkonecny
Looks like it's fixed on the COPR now. Thanks a lot for your work! Jirka On Fri, 2019-08-23 at 22:28 +, Marcin Zajaczkowski wrote: > Thanks guys for your replies. It built successfully with > "use_bootstrap_container experimental" disabled. > > Marcin > _

Re: [HEADS-UP]: Mercurial with Python3 on rawhide?

2019-08-26 Thread Neal Becker
It is intended for both py2 and py3 packages to be parallel installed, correct? On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 1:52 PM Petr Stodulka wrote: > Hi guys, > I already spent some time on that and I have resolved majority of problems > with split. The blocker for now - which I believe it is possible to resolve

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2019-08-26 Thread František Šumšal
On 8/26/19 10:20 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure > that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/H

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Markus Larsson
It seems that the only thing in that link that has merit in regards to this list is that discourse allow editing of messages that has been sent. As for the other things I disagree with pretty much everything. I don't think email is too hard to use, I don't think large mailinglists are a problem,

Re: Fedora 31: Noninstallable Python 2 packages to be retired just before the beta freeze

2019-08-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 08. 19 13:39, Peter Robinson wrote: Post what exactly, I'm now for the first time ever ignoring all mail to do with bugzilla.redhat.com because the quantity I'm getting is now unsustainable due to the constant spam from the python2 and related stuff, I have so little spare time as it is it

Re: [HEADS-UP]: Mercurial with Python3 on rawhide?

2019-08-26 Thread Petr Stodulka
Hi guys, I already spent some time on that and I have resolved majority of problems with split. The blocker for now - which I believe it is possible to resolve but I haven't found a solution yet - are libexec files - I need to install filse for py3 into mercurial3 (or in different dir in general)

Re: Fedora 31: Noninstallable Python 2 packages to be retired just before the beta freeze

2019-08-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Peter Robinson: > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 12:30 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: >> >> On 26. 08. 19 13:18, Peter Robinson wrote: >> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 10:25 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: >> >> >> >> In line with the approved Fedora 31 change, packages that fail to install >> >> due to >> >> missing Py

Fedora-Rawhide-20190826.n.0 compose check report

2019-08-26 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 22 of 45 required tests failed, 15 results missing openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Unsatisfied gating requirements that could not be mapped to openQA tests: FAILED: compose.c

Re: Fedora 31: Noninstallable Python 2 packages to be retired just before the beta freeze

2019-08-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 12:30 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 26. 08. 19 13:18, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 10:25 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> > >> In line with the approved Fedora 31 change, packages that fail to install > >> due to > >> missing Python 2 dependencies are to b

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Gerald B. Cox
If you disagree with something that is stated, you need to in detail explain why, not just claim it is marketing and therefore invalid. On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 8:30 AM Markus Larsson wrote: > > > On 26 August 2019 13:25:52 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: > >Here you go... > >https://meta.discourse

Re: Fedora 31: Noninstallable Python 2 packages to be retired just before the beta freeze

2019-08-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 08. 19 13:18, Peter Robinson wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 10:25 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: In line with the approved Fedora 31 change, packages that fail to install due to missing Python 2 dependencies are to be removed. I plan to retire the following packages (or just drop their python2

RE: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Markus Larsson
On 26 August 2019 13:25:52 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: >Here you go... >https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-vs-email-mailing-lists/54298 Yes, I'm aware of their marketing. What I was after was data from someone that doesn't have a horse in the race.

RE: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Gerald B. Cox
Here you go... https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-vs-email-mailing-lists/54298 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproj

Re: Fedora 31: Noninstallable Python 2 packages to be retired just before the beta freeze

2019-08-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 10:25 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > In line with the approved Fedora 31 change, packages that fail to install due > to > missing Python 2 dependencies are to be removed. I plan to retire the > following > packages (or just drop their python2 subpackages) one day before the b

RE: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Markus Larsson
On 26 August 2019 12:56:42 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: What issues are you referring to? I don't believe it is reasonable to believe everything would work exactly the same with Discourse - but close enough should be sufficient. There are also myriad advantages to Discourse. Are these advant

[Bug 1745563] New: Upgrade perl-WWW-Mechanize to 1.92

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1745563 Bug ID: 1745563 Summary: Upgrade perl-WWW-Mechanize to 1.92 Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Status: NEW Component: perl-WWW-Mechanize Assignee: emman...@seyman.fr

RE: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Gerald B. Cox
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 7:32:06 AM MST you wrote: > > > > > > > > RE: No longer supporting mailing lists: > This project literally cannot function without mailing lists. We do not > currently have a viable alternative. See all of the issues we've had trying > to > work with M

Fedora 31: Noninstallable Python 2 packages to be retired just before the beta freeze

2019-08-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
In line with the approved Fedora 31 change, packages that fail to install due to missing Python 2 dependencies are to be removed. I plan to retire the following packages (or just drop their python2 subpackages) one day before the beta freeze (2019-08-28), that is on this Wednesday. Maintainers

Re: [HEADS-UP] snakeyaml 1.25 update

2019-08-26 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 25. 08. 19 v 14:06 Fabio Valentini napsal(a): > Hi everybody, > > Right now, the snakeyaml package in fedora is out of date by more than > three years (1.17, released in February 2016). We plan to merge the PR > rebasing it to the latest version (1.25, released this month) into > master / rawh

Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2019-08-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:50:29AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > Anyway, I thought this is about switching to external hosting of mailing > lists for those who need them, not banning them altogether. That is correct, while discussing investing in mailing lists the CPE team was really clear that t