Re: F29 Self-Contained Change: GnuTLS enables TLS 1.3 by default

2018-09-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Nicolas Mailhot: > Le dimanche 23 septembre 2018 à 22:39 +0200, Florian Weimer a écrit : >> > On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Nicolas Mailhot >> > >> To be honest, this looks like a misconfiguration of the Google >> servers. > > Actually, this is probably a "we can finally declare IE6 dead an

[Test-Announce] Fedora 29 Branched 20180923.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2018-09-23 Thread rawhide
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 29 Branched 20180923.n.0. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: Semi-serious proposal: drop all optional entries from comps

2018-09-23 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le lundi 24 septembre 2018 à 00:57 +0200, Kevin Kofler a écrit : > > Another issue if you want to use metapackages for categorization is > that UIs > such as Dnfdragora, or whatever tool converts the metapackages to a > representation those UIs will consume, would have to be told what > packages

Re: F29 Self-Contained Change: GnuTLS enables TLS 1.3 by default

2018-09-23 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le dimanche 23 septembre 2018 à 22:39 +0200, Florian Weimer a écrit : > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Nicolas Mailhot > > > To be honest, this looks like a misconfiguration of the Google > servers. Actually, this is probably a "we can finally declare IE6 dead and use SNI everywhere" moment

[Test-Announce] 2018-09-24 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 29 Blocker Review Meeting

2018-09-23 Thread Adam Williamson
# F29 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2018-09-24 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net Hi folks! We have 9 proposed Final blockers and 3 proposed Final freeze exceptions to review, so let's have a review meeting tomorrow. Most proposed blockers are in GNOME, there

[Test-Announce] 2018-09-24 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2018-09-23 Thread Adam Williamson
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2018-09-24 # Time: 15:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! Time for a post-Beta meeting to check in on F29 status, look at some release criteria proposals, and.

Re: Semi-serious proposal: drop all optional entries from comps

2018-09-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2018-09-24 at 00:57 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Neal Gompa wrote: > > This is where I think that transforming comps into metapackages would > > probably solve the remaining issues we have with the current workflow. > > I think metapackages could work for the distro composes, where ACL >

Re: Semi-serious proposal: drop all optional entries from comps

2018-09-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Cons: > - it's a free-form input field, so packager could add anything and > everything including things we do not care about. > -> So maybe we need a list of categories we care about somewhere and we > only integrate packages having one or more of these categories

Re: Semi-serious proposal: drop all optional entries from comps

2018-09-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Neal Gompa wrote: > This is where I think that transforming comps into metapackages would > probably solve the remaining issues we have with the current workflow. I think metapackages could work for the distro composes, where ACL enforcement is wanted (so we would remove @group usage from kicksta

Re: Qt 5 update in rawhide

2018-09-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 09/23/2018 02:59 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On 09/22/2018 04:05 AM, Jan Grulich wrote: >> Hi, >> >> all packages should be now updated. If you experience broken dependencies, >> let >> me please know. > > Alas, some packages seem to have failed to build because their > buildrequires hadn't land

Re: Semi-serious proposal: drop all optional entries from comps

2018-09-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Small correction: I wrote: > part of the review process, and fedora-review can automatically print an > error for missing Group tags (just as there is currently one if Group is > missing). I meant "just as there is currently one if Group is present". Kevin Kofler

Re: Qt 5 update in rawhide

2018-09-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 09/22/2018 04:05 AM, Jan Grulich wrote: > Hi, > > all packages should be now updated. If you experience broken dependencies, > let > me please know. Alas, some packages seem to have failed to build because their buildrequires hadn't landed in the buildroot yet. ;( This broke todays rawhide

Re: Release-monitoring github issues?

2018-09-23 Thread Jerry James
On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 3:42 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Yep. It's fixed but not yet rolled out to production, we ran into some > other issues we wanted to fix up before rolling it out. > > I hope to move this service into our production openshift instance and > update it next week. :) > > Sorry for t

Re: F29 Self-Contained Change: GnuTLS enables TLS 1.3 by default

2018-09-23 Thread Florian Weimer
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Nicolas Mailhot > wrote: >> ??? That's not a Google choice, SNI is one of the >> Mandatory-to-Implement >> Extensions in TLS 1.3. You'll need it to connect to anything that >> claims >> TLS 1.3 (which will be everyone as soon as someone publishes a hole in >> TL

Re: F29 Self-Contained Change: GnuTLS enables TLS 1.3 by default

2018-09-23 Thread mcatanzaro
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: ??? That's not a Google choice, SNI is one of the Mandatory-to-Implement Extensions in TLS 1.3. You'll need it to connect to anything that claims TLS 1.3 (which will be everyone as soon as someone publishes a hole in TLS 1.2) Of course

Re: Semi-serious proposal: drop all optional entries from comps

2018-09-23 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 12:26:31PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 01:07:27PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > So I see only 2 alternatives: > > a) keep comps as it is now, including optional packages, OR > > b) undeprecate the RPM Group tag, readd it to all Fedora packages, an

Re: Semi-serious proposal: drop all optional entries from comps

2018-09-23 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 2:13 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Matthew Miller wrote: > > Well, or "find plan c and work to make sure it's integrated in future > > versions of dnfdragora". > > That would have to be done BEFORE we drop the comps entries though. > > > The RPM Group tag is very inflexible —

Re: Semi-serious proposal: drop all optional entries from comps

2018-09-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthew Miller wrote: > Well, or "find plan c and work to make sure it's integrated in future > versions of dnfdragora". That would have to be done BEFORE we drop the comps entries though. > The RPM Group tag is very inflexible — even beyond the "dewey decimal > system" problem where the categori

Re: F29 Self-Contained Change: GnuTLS enables TLS 1.3 by default

2018-09-23 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le dimanche 23 septembre 2018 à 09:40 -0500, mcatanz...@gnome.org a écrit : > > There's really nothing more to say about the problem than what's > explained there. If you want to connect to Google with TLS 1.3 you're > going to have to use SNI, because Google has decided to require it. ??? Tha

Re: F29 Self-Contained Change: GnuTLS enables TLS 1.3 by default

2018-09-23 Thread mcatanzaro
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 7:57 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: That an update for SNI may be required is clear, but it doesn't answer the question where a change will be needed. The Claws Mail developers will have to investigate. The right place will be close to all the other uses of GnuTLS, though

Re: F29 Self-Contained Change: GnuTLS enables TLS 1.3 by default

2018-09-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:32:07 -0500, mcatanzaro gnome org wrote: > You'll need to add a call to gnutls_server_name_set(), see: > > https://www.gnutls.org/manual/gnutls.html#Server-name-indication That an update for SNI may be required is clear, but it doesn't answer the question where a change wi

Re: orphaning LabPlot

2018-09-23 Thread Mukundan Ragavan
On 9/23/18 4:46 AM, Christian Dersch wrote: > On 9/23/18 2:23 AM, Mukundan Ragavan wrote: >> I intent to orphan LabPlot soon. If anyone is interested, I can transfer >> this package to that person. >> >> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/LabPlot > Hi, > > I'll take care of the package as it is p

Re: Fedora 29 Beta status: RC4 incoming

2018-09-23 Thread Amit Saha
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 1:27 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2018-09-19 at 21:31 +1000, Amit Saha wrote: > > Hi Adam, > > > > How do I propose > > https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7814 as a blocker for the F29 release? > > It cannot be one, as that is not a release-blocking image - none of the

Re: orphaning LabPlot

2018-09-23 Thread Alain Vigne
Hello Mukundan You don't have time anymore for Labplot ? Other problems with the package ? I would be keen on taking this over, but I am still waiting for a sponsor, as I am not part (yet ?) of the packager group... May be I co-maintain it ? My FAS username is avigne , my COPR: https://copr.fedo

Re: orphaning LabPlot

2018-09-23 Thread Christian Dersch
On 9/23/18 2:23 AM, Mukundan Ragavan wrote: > I intent to orphan LabPlot soon. If anyone is interested, I can transfer > this package to that person. > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/LabPlot Hi, I'll take care of the package as it is part of the Astronomy Lab. Greetings, Christian

Re: Semi-serious proposal: drop all optional entries from comps

2018-09-23 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le samedi 22 septembre 2018 à 11:38 -0700, Adam Williamson a écrit : > > But at the same time I think Matt's right that comps -at least as it's > currently set up - is kind of a really *bad* way of doing this, and > that seems fairly well demonstrated by the problem I'm trying to solve > - that co

Re: Semi-serious proposal: drop all optional entries from comps

2018-09-23 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le samedi 22 septembre 2018 à 11:29 -0700, Adam Williamson a écrit : > On Sat, 2018-09-22 at 10:26 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On 09/21/2018 06:14 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > ...snip... > > > The old gnome-packagekit, IIRC, also parsed groups and showed you > > > all > > > this stuff. > > > >