Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 19-09-18 02:09, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 17:06 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:57 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: On 9/18/18 3:23 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: But is this bugginess worth a FE to try and get -58 onto the Beta? Lots of users will install

Fedora 29 Beta status: RC4 incoming

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi, folks! Just a quick mail to let everyone know where we are with F29 Beta. We managed to throw together fixes for all the currently-accepted blockers (thanks to the dnf team for help there), so an RC4 (aka Beta- 1.4) is currently composing. Compared to RC3 it contains a newer libdnf with a fix

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:58 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > By the way, can we get some clarification as to the scope of the > hidden grub menu change? I think it should be restricted to > Workstation only. And not extend to anything else, including even > Silverblue (yes it's a workstation variant

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:55 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: >> On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:45 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Adam Williamson >>> wrote: >>> > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 20:09 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:55 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > I'm not finding a criterion requiring either the key reveal feature to > work; or for the failed boot detection to work. Seems like that might > need a tweak. Yeah, possibly. Not surprising there's no criterion *yet*, as it's a new featur

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:45 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Adam Williamson >> wrote: >> > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 20:09 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > On 18-09-18 17:28, Chris Murphy wrot

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:45 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 20:09 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On 18-09-18 17:28, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewsk

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 20:09 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 18-09-18 17:28, Chris Murphy wrote: >> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >> > wrote: >> > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 08:36:32AM -0600, Chri

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 20:09 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 18-09-18 17:28, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 08:36:32AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:56 AM, Hans de

hidden grub menu feature, bootloader writing to grubenv

2018-09-18 Thread Chris Murphy
Hi, The more I think about the bootloader writing to grubenv, the more I'm not a fan. I'm really suspicious of even the general case of anything doing (over)writes outside of the file system. Is block device writing something all UEFI firmware support? Even with Secure Boot enabled? Setting aside

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 17:06 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:57 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > > On 9/18/18 3:23 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > But is this bugginess worth a FE to try and get -58 onto the Beta? > > > Lots of users will install the Beta and will not want to rein

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 18:57 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > On 9/18/18 3:23 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > But is this bugginess worth a FE to try and get -58 onto the Beta? > > Lots of users will install the Beta and will not want to reinstall. > > Seems like suboptimal behavior. > > I think it's worth

Intent to orphan coan

2018-09-18 Thread Jonathan Underwood
Hi, I am planning to orphan the coan package in a week or so unless someone else is interested in taking on the package. "Coan is a software engineering tool for analysing preprocessor-based configurations of C or C++ source code. Its principal use is to simplify a body of source code by eliminat

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Randy Barlow
On 9/18/18 3:23 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > But is this bugginess worth a FE to try and get -58 onto the Beta? > Lots of users will install the Beta and will not want to reinstall. > Seems like suboptimal behavior. I think it's worth a FE since this was one of the Fedora 29 changes. I think it'd be

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Ok, I've managed to reproduce this in a classic BIOS boot using VM and > then after updating grub2 to 2.02-58 and running grub2-mkinstall the > problem went away. It looks like this somehow for broken in one specific > grub2 build and then

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20180917.n.1 changes

2018-09-18 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20180916.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20180917.n.1 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 1 Added packages: 11 Dropped packages:2 Upgraded packages: 160 Downgraded packages: 1 Size of added packages: 122.59 MiB Size of dropped packages:7

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Andreas Tunek
Den tis 18 sep. 2018 kl 17:29 skrev Chris Murphy : > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 08:36:32AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:56 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > On 18-09-18 01:12, Chr

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 18-09-18 17:28, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 08:36:32AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:56 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 18-09-18 01:12, Chris Murphy wrote: I've got a Fedora

Fedora 29 compose report: 20180918.n.0 changes

2018-09-18 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-29-20180917.n.0 NEW: Fedora-29-20180918.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:3 Dropped images: 2 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:32 Upgraded packages: 3 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:11.25 MiB Size of

[Modularity] Working Group IRC meeting minutes (2018-09-18)

2018-09-18 Thread Nils Philippsen
= #fedora-meeting-3: Weekly Meeting of the Modularity Working Group = Meeting started by nils at 14:00:20 UTC. Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meetin

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 08:36:32AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:56 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > On 18-09-18 01:12, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> >> >> I've got a Fedora 29 Silverblue instal

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 08:36:32AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:56 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 18-09-18 01:12, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> > >> I've got a Fedora 29 Silverblue installation in a VM. What kind of VM is it? Zbyszek _

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:56 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 18-09-18 01:12, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> I've got a Fedora 29 Silverblue installation in a VM. First boot I see >> the GRUB menu, and after that it's hidden. And I can't figure out how >> to unhide it. Boot is failing before I get

Re: Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement: 28.20180917.0

2018-09-18 Thread Dusty Mabe
On 09/17/2018 03:19 PM, nore...@fedoraproject.org wrote: > > A new Fedora Atomic Host update is available via an OSTree update: > > Version: 28.20180917.0 > Commit(x86_64): > 17b11d74047ded1264a57555a64ae6fc5d02a332c556679bfcf32864fc91f11e > Commit(aarch64): > 95cdc6d02ed7f3645bdd513b07b2c2db

Re: Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement: 28.20180917.0

2018-09-18 Thread Sayan Chowdhury
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 12:49 AM wrote: > > > A new Fedora Atomic Host update is available via an OSTree update: > > Version: 28.20180917.0 > Commit(x86_64): 17b11d74047ded1264a57555a64ae6fc5d02a332c556679bfcf32864fc91f11e > Commit(aarch64): 95cdc6d02ed7f3645bdd513b07b2c2db9b04e91d8aae897fa88e3782

Re: F29 hidden GRUB, problem testing and how to unhide

2018-09-18 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 18-09-18 01:12, Chris Murphy wrote: I've got a Fedora 29 Silverblue installation in a VM. First boot I see the GRUB menu, and after that it's hidden. And I can't figure out how to unhide it. Boot is failing before I get multiuser login or ssh, so extracting information to troubleshoot/bug

Re: What does 141 mean?

2018-09-18 Thread Michal Toman
Exit codes with top bit set to 1 (IOW higher than 127) usually mean unhandled signal. In your case 141 & 127 = 13 (or 141 - 128 = 13 if you want) indicating the app got SIGPIPE and died on it. This is not 100% reliable since you can deliberately exit your app with >127 code but most apps do not do

Re: What does 141 mean?

2018-09-18 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On su, 16 syys 2018, Björn Persson wrote: I have a Kerberos authentication problem. On one computer running Fedora 27, I run kinit to authenticate to the Fedora servers. After I enter my passphrase, kinit returns exit status 141. Then I run "fedpkg build", and get these error messages: Kerberos

Re: Managing stream (arbitrary) branch and module lifecycles

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Samalik
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:20 PM Petr Šabata wrote: > On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 03:35:50PM +0200, Adam Samalik wrote: > > This is a summary of a recent thread [1]. > > > > Traditional branches (such as "f29") have their EOL (end of life) encoded > > in the name. But what about stream branches [2] (

Re: Managing stream (arbitrary) branch and module lifecycles

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Samalik
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:19 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 03:35:50PM +0200, Adam Samalik wrote: > > There would be a policy that a module can reach its EOL in the middle of > a > > Fedora release to prevent madness. > > Can or can't? I assume you mean "can't", because "can"

Re: Managing stream (arbitrary) branch and module lifecycles

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Samalik
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:54 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 at 21:43, Richard Shaw wrote: > [...] > > This would take care of most of the complains about people using "git > merge > > master" across release branches (even though

Re: Managing stream (arbitrary) branch and module lifecycles

2018-09-18 Thread Adam Samalik
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 10:08 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 2:30 PM Adam Samalik wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:43 PM Richard Shaw wrote: >> As a packager, what is your experience with lifecycles of your packages? >> Do you get a specific EOL date from the upstream? If

libbson and libmongoc 1.13.0 in F29

2018-09-18 Thread Remi Collet
Hi, I just update mongo-c-driver to 1.13.0 ABI/API is compatible http://rpms.remirepo.net/compat_reports/libbson/1.12.0_to_1.13.0/compat_report.html http://rpms.remirepo.net/compat_reports/libmongoc/1.12.0_to_1.13.0/compat_report.html Warning: headers paths have changed from /usr/include/lib