Re: Multi-arch support in Mock

Hi Miroslav, I'm having trouble with the i386 arch on x86_64. I've tested it on actual hardware and in a VM and in both cases I get ERROR: Could not find useradd in chroot, maybe the install failed? I've tried building the kernel with mock -r fedora-29-i386 --forcearch=i386 kernel-4.18.0-0.rc0.g

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

I simply forgot to vote this time - saw the announcement was busy with other things and then the elections where already over. Having a longer voting period would have helped but I am not sure if others simply missed it as well. ___ devel mailing list --

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:51 PM Till Maas wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:53 PM Randy Barlow > > > > Downside is that it would be possible (though I'd guess unlikely) for > > > all of FESCo to suddenly change to 9 different peopl

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 6:19 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > Another way to achieve a similar goal (fewer elections) is to have all > > > of FESCo swap in/out together, rather than tick-tocking 4 and 5 seats. > > > This way we keep a y

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Randy Barlow wrote: Another way to achieve a similar goal (fewer elections) is to have all of FESCo swap in/out together, rather than tick-tocking 4 and 5 seats. This way we keep a year long term, but also only one election per year. I recommended against this

Re: Release criteria proposal: installing / removing software

On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 19:25 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:47:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > There's a footnote explaining that already: > > Ah, that clears it up. Thanks :) > > > as explained there, we actually *specifically* added this wording > > because ther

Re: Release criteria proposal: installing / removing software

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:47:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > There's a footnote explaining that already: Ah, that clears it up. Thanks :) > as explained there, we actually *specifically* added this wording > because there was a bug with packages from modules being selected as > updates when

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

On 06/14/2018 11:37 PM, Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 04:19:27PM +0200, Alois Mahdal wrote: > >> On 06/14/2018 08:40 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >> What about attack success rate? > >> But if the attacker is some browser exploit able to take a shot at many >>

Re: Release criteria proposal: installing / removing software

On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 11:48 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 09:56:07AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > "The installed system must be able to install, remove, and update > > > software with the default console tool for the relevant software type > > > (e.g. default console

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 04:53:58PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > Theory will always become reality at some point. I think there is very > good reasons to keep the staggered approach to electing FESCo members. The lack of candidates and voters is a practical problem that we have now. Not sure if

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > Another way to achieve a similar goal (fewer elections) is to have all > > of FESCo swap in/out together, rather than tick-tocking 4 and 5 seats. > > This way we keep a year long term, but also only one election per year. > > Downside

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 08:02:33AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 06/14/2018 03:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > I know we never manage to motivate many people to vote, but 86 votes is > > really > > low, even for us:( > > Yes, I was checking out the voter count on other pollings and

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 23:50 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:53 PM Randy Barlow > > > Downside is that it would be possible (though I'd guess unlikely) > > > for > > > all of FESCo to suddenly change to 9 different p

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:53 PM Randy Barlow > > Downside is that it would be possible (though I'd guess unlikely) for > > all of FESCo to suddenly change to 9 different people and there'd be no > > members who know the current state of

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

Hi, On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 04:56:32PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Look, people keep asking why it was like this. I am trying to explain > it. I am not defending it or saying we have to keep doing it that Thank you very much. I appreciate it to know the history and see that I am not mis

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

Hi, On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 04:19:27PM +0200, Alois Mahdal wrote: > On 06/14/2018 08:40 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > What about attack success rate? > But if the attacker is some browser exploit able to take a shot at many > users (not knowing what their OS, let alone default $PATH

Re: Review Request: robin-map

Wow, that was quick... Thanks! Richard ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https:/

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

On 14 June 2018 at 16:23, Till Maas wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 05:28:03PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > >> and some other remote filesystem which were common in universities and >> thought safe by itself. Or the attack would be done by controlling one >> host with root permissions an

Re: Review Request: robin-map

On jeudi 14 juin 2018 17:10:21 CEST Richard Shaw wrote: > This is a super easy header only library that will be needed for the next > major release of OpenImageIO (1.9). > > Description: > The robin-map library is a C++ implementation of a fast hash map and hash > set > using open-addressing and l

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On 2018-06-14 09:27, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Michael Cronenworth > wrote: On 06/14/2018 03:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: I know we never manage to motivate many people to vote, but 86 votes is really

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 05:28:03PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > The usual culprit in the past has been where an attacker gets access > via a chrooted or container environment where they only have access to > a limited set of directories. A long time ago this was done via ftp I read this a

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:51 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 12:06 +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: >> == Scope == >> * Proposal owners: >> ** Generate BLS snippets at kernel build time and ship in the kernel >> packages. >> ** Make kernel-install scripts to copy the BLS, kernel and in

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:53 PM Randy Barlow wrote: > > On 06/14/2018 12:13 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > >> I would also double the terms served by the candidates (at least for > >> FESCo), since otherwise we'd wind up with twice as many candidates > >> on the ballot at each election, which would m

Re: Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2018-06-15)

Note that this week's agenda is unusually lengthy and includes a couple items that seemed a bit controversial on the list, so we may not get to the topics closer to the end of the list depending on how quickly we move. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@list

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On 06/14/2018 12:13 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >> I would also double the terms served by the candidates (at least for >> FESCo), since otherwise we'd wind up with twice as many candidates >> on the ballot at each election, which would make the elections more >> confusing (more names to recognize, m

Re: Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2018-06-15)

On 06/14/2018 04:25 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: > I would like to ask FESCo to also take care of this ticket: > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1912 > It does not need a discussion (IMO), but it is an important one. Some > of the steps in the ticket need to be done by current FESCo members as > non-FESCo pe

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 15:10 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:51:33AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > ** Have a grubby wrapper for backward compatbility that manipulates BLS > > > files. > > > > What exactly is the plan for upgrades, here? > > I *assume* it's what the

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:51:33AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > ** Have a grubby wrapper for backward compatbility that manipulates BLS > > files. > What exactly is the plan for upgrades, here? I *assume* it's what the "grubby wrapper" is there for? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 12:06 +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > == Scope == > * Proposal owners: > ** Generate BLS snippets at kernel build time and ship in the kernel packages. > ** Make kernel-install scripts to copy the BLS, kernel and initramfs > images and do any architecture specific task. > ** Make GR

Kernel 4.17 rebase plans

While the 4.17 kernel was released almost 2 weeks ago, I wanted to get through the 4.17 test day and see how things looked before coming up with a definitive schedule. Things went really well, and I expect F28 will get 4.17.2 or 4.17.3 into updates-testing next week. F27 will follow shortly after

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 09:34:48AM -0500, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > I would also double the terms served by the candidates (at least for > FESCo), since otherwise we'd wind up with twice as many candidates > on the ballot at each election, which would make the elections more > confusing (more n

Re: Release criteria proposal: installing / removing software

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 09:56:07AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > "The installed system must be able to install, remove, and update > > software with the default console tool for the relevant software type > > (e.g. default console package manager). This includes downloading of > > packages to b

F29 System Wide Change: Binutils 2.31

= Proposed System Wide Change: Binutils 2.31 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BINUTILS231 Owner(s): * Nick Clifton Rebase the binutils package from version 2.30 to version 2.31. == Detailed description == Switch the binutils package from being based on the 2.30 release of the FSF

Review Request: robin-map

This is a super easy header only library that will be needed for the next major release of OpenImageIO (1.9). Description: The robin-map library is a C++ implementation of a fast hash map and hash set using open-addressing and linear robin hood hashing with backward shift deletion to resolve colli

Orphaned package: golang-github-docopt-docopt-go

Hi *, I'm not a Go user and had the package just as a dependency of another one, which doesn't need it any more (for a long time already). I'll be happy if anyone will take care of that if needed. - golang-github-docopt-docopt-go jj. ___ devel mailing

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 8:27 AM, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote: I've heard from several people (warning anecdata!) that they often don't vote when they are happy with the way things are.  One person specifically said they didn't vote because they liked the whole slate of candidates and were ok w

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

(Again, I'm not infosec expert, I'm just pulling from what I've randomly heard/read/learned through my time in QA and SW engineering.) On 06/14/2018 08:40 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > [...] > hatever their privelege level might be. >>> >>> Executable directory? If you have power over

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Strong crypto settings: phase 2

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:28:31PM +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote: > > I don't think TLS 1.3 will see a wide deployment immediately. Sure, > > the > > famous top websites and top browsers will, but enterprises will not. > > And > > especially those with any kind of loggin/auditing requirements cannot > >

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Strong crypto settings: phase 2

On Wed, 2018-06-13 at 00:45 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jun 2018, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > > > I think the debate here is whether fedora (and in general operating > > systems) can afford to be stricter than the browsers. As an OS our > > attack surface is much larger than the br

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 06/14/2018 03:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > >> I know we never manage to motivate many people to vote, but 86 votes is >> really >> low, even for us:( >> > > Yes, I was checking out the voter count on other pollings and the tur

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 9:03 AM Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > On 06/14/2018 03:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > I know we never manage to motivate many people to vote, but 86 votes is > > really > > low, even for us:( > > Yes, I was checking out the voter count on other pollings and the turn

Orphaned Python packages

Hi, I unfortunately won't have time to maintain these Python packages any longer: - python-afl (can be orphaned maybe) - pew @python-sig - python-rangehttpserver @python-sig - python-pythonz-bd @python-sig - python-resumable-urlretrieve @python-sig I orphaned them, feel free

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On 06/14/2018 03:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: I know we never manage to motivate many people to vote, but 86 votes is really low, even for us:( Yes, I was checking out the voter count on other pollings and the turnout is around 100. Disappointing. :( Lack of awareness or advertising? I v

Re: Multi-arch support in Mock

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 05:46:59AM -0400, Charalampos Stratakis wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Miroslav Suchý" > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 9:07:18 AM > > Subject: Multi-arch support in Mock > > > > Hi, > > I

F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

= Proposed System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BootLoaderSpecByDefault Owner(s): * Javier Martinez Canillas * Peter Jones Use BootLoaderSpec fragment files by default to populate the bootloaders boot menu entries. == Detailed des

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:06:24AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > Greetings, all! > > The elections for FESCo - May 2018 have concluded, and the results > are shown below. > > FESCo is electing 4 seats this time. A total of 86 ballots were cast, > meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 430 votes

Re: Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2018-06-15)

I would like to ask FESCo to also take care of this ticket: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1912 It does not need a discussion (IMO), but it is an important one. Some of the steps in the ticket need to be done by current FESCo members as non-FESCo people do not have the permissions to do so. Thanks,

License change notification for Eclipse Plugins

Some Eclipse Foundation plug-ins have already made the switch from EPL to EPL-2.0 and I have updated the licence field in the corresponding Rawhide RPMs where I am aware of the change. I expect that most plug-ins from the Foundation and the Eclipse Platform itself will make the switch over the com

FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

Greetings, all! The elections for FESCo - May 2018 have concluded, and the results are shown below. FESCo is electing 4 seats this time. A total of 86 ballots were cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 430 votes (86 * 5). The results for the elections are as follows: # votes | na

License change for rust-tokio-*

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Upstream decided to relicense tokio crates from "MIT or ASL 2.0" to "MIT". I'm updating some of these now. Just FYI. - -- - -Igor Gnatenko -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEhLFO09aHZVqO+CM6aVcUvRu8X0wFAlsiIXAACgkQaVcUvRu8 X0wH5BAAlF1PJ