On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 04:47:14PM -0400, R P Herrold wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> > The use case is that for simple packages, it's simpler for the user
> > if the service is available immediately. My initial example with gpm
> > is actually good here: do "s
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 02:00:42PM -0500, po...@pouar.net wrote:
> So is someone else is going to do the checking if the reverse dependencies
> work with the new version or do I have to do that?
*Somebody* has to do it. If *you* can at least start doing that, that
would be great and will probably
On 17 April 2018 at 19:42, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:00:55AM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
>>> On 04/17/2018 12:41 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>>> >tl;dr: the proposal is to start services
No missing expected images.
Failed openQA tests: 38/137 (x86_64), 3/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm)
New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20180416.n.0):
ID: 224543 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_cockpit_basic
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/224543
ID: 224665 Test: x86_64
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:00:55AM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
>> On 04/17/2018 12:41 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>> >tl;dr: the proposal is to start services immediately during
>> >installation (in %post), iff they are
Hi folks! As we're now frozen for Final, here's an update on blocker
bug status.
tl;dr action summary
Accepted blockers
-
1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1566621
ACTION: anaconda team to submit build/update with fix, QA to test
2. https://bugz
No missing expected images.
Failed openQA tests: 7/137 (x86_64), 3/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm)
New failures (same test did not fail in 28-20180416.n.0):
ID: 224802 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/224802
ID: 224844 Test: i386 Worksta
On 04/17/2018 01:12 PM, R P Herrold wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Samuel Sieb wrote:
I would assume that services that require configuration
before being useful would not be enabled by default.
I thing this is a mistaken assumption, and that we are moving
into matters of sysadmin taste
The SSHD
On 04/17/2018 07:00 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2018-04-17 at 16:16 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
Is there some reason that you couldn't mention who the package
maintainer is?
Both Richard Marko (rmarko) and Jan Kaluža (jkaluza) are listed as
maintainers that package.
Also, I don
On Tue, 2018-04-17 at 16:16 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
> Is there some reason that you couldn't mention who the package
> maintainer is?
>
> Both Richard Marko (rmarko) and Jan Kaluža (jkaluza) are listed as
> maintainers that package.
Also, I don't think you (Itamar) have fully followed
Is there some reason that you couldn't mention who the package
maintainer is?
Both Richard Marko (rmarko) and Jan Kaluža (jkaluza) are listed as
maintainers that package.
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On Tue, 2018-04-17 at 14:18 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 05:06:20PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > That's a vital dependency for GNOME - gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-
> > session, mutter, nautilus, control-center etc. all depend on it.
>
> [...]
> > So thanks to good o
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> The use case is that for simple packages, it's simpler for the user
> if the service is available immediately. My initial example with gpm
> is actually good here: do "sudo dnf install -y gpm", move mouse, voilà.
> Also the case from https
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > i could puke everytime something is pulled as dependency and started
> > without any use
>
> Can you give an example of such services?
The first is a list of 'sbin' processes running from that
machine being probed
The second are those
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 04:01:04PM -0400, R P Herrold wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 12:41:15PM -0400, R P Herrold wrote:
>
> > To make this work, we could either require that maintainers of A add
> > Requires(post): B, or delay the
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Services which are subject the guidelines allow to be enabled by
> default should be such that starting them briefly should not cause
> any permanent effects.
Some 'real world' data, from a unit that was deployed this
morning at
2018-04
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Services which are subject the guidelines allow to be
> enabled by default should be such that starting them briefly
> should not cause any permanent effects.
'should not' is not true to fact in the real world
I mentioned we inject a S
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> I would assume that services that require configuration
> before being useful would not be enabled by default.
I thing this is a mistaken assumption, and that we are moving
into matters of sysadmin taste
The SSHD is enabled by default, and likely to re
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 08:58:06PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 17.04.2018 um 20:53 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:00:55AM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> >> On 04/17/2018 12:41 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >>> tl;dr: the proposal is to start s
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 12:41:15PM -0400, R P Herrold wrote:
> To make this work, we could either require that maintainers of A add
> Requires(post): B, or delay the starting of services until the end
> of the transaction, using a transfi
On 04/17/2018 12:05 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
b) services that have assumed our current behavior and are not useful,
or are even insecure when started by default.
I would assume that services that require configuration before being
useful would not be enabled by default.
On 04/16/2018 10:41 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm a bit surprised that there's no reply to this fairly explosive
> idea. Maybe Nikos' text is too long, so let me summarize:
Well, I marked it to reply to, but just hadn't gotten to it yet. ;)
Not everyone can immediately
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 12:41:15PM -0400, R P Herrold wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> > > That said, maybe Fedora's service preset files these days are
> > > carefully enough written and already formalize such deliberation?
> >
> > Pfff. Yes they are. See
> >
So is someone else is going to do the checking if the reverse dependencies
work with the new version or do I have to do that?
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On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:00:55AM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> On 04/17/2018 12:41 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >tl;dr: the proposal is to start services immediately during
> >installation (in %post), iff they are enabled in presets and the
> >system is live (not a chroot or such).
> >
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 05:06:20PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> That's a vital dependency for GNOME - gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-
> session, mutter, nautilus, control-center etc. all depend on it.
[...]
> So thanks to good old:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1427365
> we get ima
OLD: Fedora-28-20180416.n.0
NEW: Fedora-28-20180417.n.0
= SUMMARY =
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Dropped images: 1
Added packages: 10
Dropped packages:1
Upgraded packages: 235
Downgraded packages: 0
Size of added packages: 29.01 MiB
Size of dropped packages:11.53 MiB
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 07:36:34AM +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
>
> I filed a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1564699
> but the maintainer refused to even comment on the merits and closed
> it without any reasonable explanation. I find his response not
> excellent.
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > That said, maybe Fedora's service preset files these days are
> > carefully enough written and already formalize such deliberation?
>
> Pfff. Yes they are. See
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:DefaultServices.
Is packager ins
On 04/17/2018 12:41 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
tl;dr: the proposal is to start services immediately during
installation (in %post), iff they are enabled in presets and the
system is live (not a chroot or such).
This would mean that e.g. after 'dnf install gpm' gpm would be running
wh
On 04/17/2018 05:38 PM, Jiri Vanek wrote:
On 04/15/2018 11:18 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
Note - page was updated for what you asked.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/java-openjdk-10
Dont hesitate toask for more :)
TY!
J.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 02:58:56PM +0200, Jan Kuri
On 04/15/2018 11:18 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 02:58:56PM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote:
This is a late proposal for F28 release, mostly to spread awareness of the
availability of java-openjdk 10 in Fedora. It is not closely tied to the
F28 release however it would b
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Dne 17.4.2018 v 09:23 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a):
> Actually we do. If systemd is running and dnf is installing packages
> into the same root from which it is running, it's a live system.
Hmm, this will work for Mock. Thou I am not sure about others environments.
Miroslav
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On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Petr Pisar wrote:
> You mean systemctl can talk to a systemd via
> /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket. Ok.
IIRC, systemctl detects that it is running in chrooted environment
(i.e. system isn't "live") by looking at inode number of /. If the
number that systemctl se
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 09:44:45AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Di, 17.04.18 05:41, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm a bit surprised that there's no reply to this fairly explosive
> > idea. Maybe Nikos' text is too long, so let me summarize
On 2018-04-17, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 08:30:59AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>> Dne 17.4.2018 v 07:46 Petr Pisar napsal(a):
>> > Maybe nobody knows how to determine a system is live.
>>
>> +1
>
> Actually we do. If systemd is running
You mean systemctl can
On Di, 17.04.18 05:41, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm a bit surprised that there's no reply to this fairly explosive
> idea. Maybe Nikos' text is too long, so let me summarize:
>
> tl;dr: the proposal is to start services immediately during
> installatio
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On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 09:23:24AM +0200, Jakub Jelen wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-04-17 at 05:46 +, Petr Pisar wrote:
> > On 2018-04-17, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > > I'm a bit surprised that there's no reply to this fairly explosive
> > > idea. Maybe Nikos' text is too long, so let me su
On Tue, 2018-04-17 at 05:46 +, Petr Pisar wrote:
> On 2018-04-17, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > I'm a bit surprised that there's no reply to this fairly explosive
> > idea. Maybe Nikos' text is too long, so let me summarize:
> >
> > tl;dr: the proposal is to start services immediatel
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 08:30:59AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 17.4.2018 v 07:46 Petr Pisar napsal(a):
> > Maybe nobody knows how to determine a system is live.
>
> +1
Actually we do. If systemd is running and dnf is installing packages
into the same root from which it is running, it's a l
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