Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Self contained Changes) on Fedora 28 is today

2018-01-29 Thread Jan Kurik
Hi everyone! Today is the submission deadline for Self contained Changes of Fedora 28 [1]. Please schedule your upcoming Changes (Self contained as well as System wide) for the next (Fedora 29) release. Branch of Fedora 28 from Rawhide is then planned on 2018-Fed-20. [1] https://fedoraproject.org

Re: Fwd: Re: Fedora27: NFS v4 terrible write performance, is async working

2018-01-29 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2018-01-29, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > The file create isn't allowed to return until the server has created the > file and the change has actually reached disk. > Why is there such a requirement? This is not true for local file systems. This is why fsync() exists. -- Petr ___

Re: [HEADS UP] Removal of systemd-units

2018-01-29 Thread Akira TAGOH
2018-01-26 3:17 GMT+09:00 Jason L Tibbitts III : >> "IG" == Igor Gnatenko writes: > ebnetd tagoh fixed. -- Akira TAGOH ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorapr

Re: RPM packaging and ldconfig handling

2018-01-29 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On 30 January 2018 at 02:11, Tim Landscheidt wrote: [..] > Unfortunately, progress in Fedora and similar projects is > not made by telling people what they are doing wrong, but by > doing The Right Thing™ yourself or in collaboration with > others. And even if one is reporting a fault, there are

Re: Wyland is a disaster

2018-01-29 Thread mcatanzaro
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:39 PM, Per Bothner wrote: If any logs or monitoring tools would be helpful, I'll be happy to help. Please see my earlier post in this thread regarding how to get a stacktrace out of coredumpctl. If you post an issue report with a stacktrace at https://gitlab.gnome.

Re: RPM packaging and ldconfig handling

2018-01-29 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > […] > This is like with with problems on taking care of the production issues or > faults. > Always needs to be someone who is controlling whole situation but this person > does not need to to person doing all OS, HW, app, db related things which > needs to be > change

Re: Wyland is a disaster

2018-01-29 Thread Per Bothner
FWIW, I too have Wayland crashing every few days. I can't pin-point a pattern: Just now it crashed while trying to open a pdf attachment in Thunderbird (using the default Document Viewer). After rebooting, the same attachment opened with no problems. Given that the apps I use are pretty good abo

Re: Orphaning ofono

2018-01-29 Thread Rex Dieter
Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 01/29/2018 07:05 AM, Rex Dieter wrote: >> I will be orphaning the ofono package today. I'd primarily packaged it >> with the the intention that it may become a new dependency of pulseaudio >> (which never happened), and I've not been able to give it the time it >> needs. >

Re: Fwd: Re: Fedora27: NFS v4 terrible write performance, is async working

2018-01-29 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 08:37:50PM +, Terry Barnaby wrote: > Ok, that's a shame unless NFSv4's write performance with small files/dirs > is relatively ok which it isn't on my systems. > Although async was "unsafe" this was not an issue in main standard > scenarios such as an NFS mounted home di

F28 Self Contained Change: VA-API 1.0.0

2018-01-29 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: VA-API 1.0.0 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/VA-API_1.0.0 Change owner(s): * Nicolas Chauvet This change is about upgrading libva and others to version 2.0. This change affects several multimedia players as there are both API and ABI changes. This will

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Modularity Office Hours

2018-01-29 Thread nils
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Modularity Office Hours on 2018-01-30 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.jit.si/fedora-modularity The meeting will be about: This is where you ask the Fedora Modularity Team questions (and we try to answer them)! Join us o

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Modularity Office Hours

2018-01-29 Thread nils
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Modularity Office Hours on 2018-01-30 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-modular...@chat.freenode.net The meeting will be about: This is where you ask the Fedora Modularity Team questions (and we try to answer them)! Join us on

wish to resurrect shorewall on EPEL 6 (and re-self-introduction)

2018-01-29 Thread J. Randall Owens
As I previously wrote (v.i.), I'd like to un-retire shorewall for EPEL 6. It seems as though the only reason for its retirement is that the previous maintainer hadn't updated it in four years, presumably having lost interest in it. I've had shorewall-4.5.4 & -4.4.17 building in my personal repo for

F28 Self Contained Change: Removing ldconfig scriptlets

2018-01-29 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Removing ldconfig scriptlets = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Removing_ldconfig_scriptlets Change owner(s): * Igor Gnatenko * Neal Gompa For many years, package maintainers were required to write scriptlets which call ldconfig in %post/%postun if they p

Re: Fwd: Re: Fedora27: NFS v4 terrible write performance, is async working

2018-01-29 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 29/01/18 19:50, Steve Dickson wrote: On 01/29/2018 12:42 PM, Steven Whitehouse wrote: Forwarded Message Subject:Re: Fedora27: NFS v4 terrible write performance, is async working Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 21:17:02 + From: Terry Barnaby To: Steven Whiteho

Re: Orphaning ofono

2018-01-29 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 01/29/2018 07:05 AM, Rex Dieter wrote: I will be orphaning the ofono package today. I'd primarily packaged it with the the intention that it may become a new dependency of pulseaudio (which never happened), and I've not been able to give it the time it needs. Isn't it an optional dependency

Re: Fwd: Re: Fedora27: NFS v4 terrible write performance, is async working

2018-01-29 Thread Steve Dickson
On 01/29/2018 12:42 PM, Steven Whitehouse wrote: > > > > Forwarded Message > Subject: Re: Fedora27: NFS v4 terrible write performance, is async > working > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 21:17:02 + > From: Terry Barnaby > To: Steven Whitehouse , Developme

Re: RPM packaging and ldconfig handling

2018-01-29 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On 29 January 2018 at 19:06, Igor Gnatenko wrote: [..] > > As now with file trigger changes are committed and new glibc packages > will > > be in rawhide repo it should be mass change removing all ldconfig > execution > > from **ALL** Fedora specs. > > While I agree that this is needed, why do yo

Re: [HEADS UP] Removal of systemd-units

2018-01-29 Thread Jared K. Smith
2018-01-25 13:17 GMT-05:00 Jason L Tibbitts III : > For your list of packages, this gives the following two lists, making it > easy for maintainers to see if they have something to fix without > looking for individual package names. (Hence it's now trivial for me to > see that I have a couple of

Re: RPM packaging and ldconfig handling

2018-01-29 Thread Igor Gnatenko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, 2018-01-29 at 18:49 +, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On 29 January 2018 at 17:18, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > Igor committed a change to glibc so that from Fedora 28 going forward, > > glibc will run ldconfig after the transaction if any of t

Re: RPM packaging and ldconfig handling

2018-01-29 Thread Igor Gnatenko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, 2018-01-29 at 18:49 +, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On 29 January 2018 at 17:18, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > Igor committed a change to glibc so that from Fedora 28 going forward, > > glibc will run ldconfig after the transaction if any of t

Re: RPM packaging and ldconfig handling

2018-01-29 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On 29 January 2018 at 17:18, Florian Weimer wrote: > Igor committed a change to glibc so that from Fedora 28 going forward, > glibc will run ldconfig after the transaction if any of the library > directory trees was modified. > > This means that libraries which package the lib*.so.* symbolic link

Re: RPM packaging and ldconfig handling

2018-01-29 Thread Florian Weimer
Igor committed a change to glibc so that from Fedora 28 going forward, glibc will run ldconfig after the transaction if any of the library directory trees was modified. This means that libraries which package the lib*.so.* symbolic links will no longer have to run ldconfig in %postin/%postun,

Re: -z defs linker flag activated in Fedora rawhide

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Šimáček
On 2018-01-29 16:51, Richard Shaw wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:37 AM, Florian Weimer > wrote: I have reverted the -z defs change in rawhide.  A substantial number of underlinked binaries are still shipped in rawhide after this change, either due to expl

Re: [HEADS UP] Removal of systemd-units

2018-01-29 Thread Paul Howarth
On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 12:17:26 -0600 Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > "IG" == Igor Gnatenko > > writes: > > IG> It's just 198 packages and we are just going to fix them for you > IG> in following days. > > When posting big lists of packages, please consider running that list > through

Re: -z defs linker flag activated in Fedora rawhide

2018-01-29 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:37 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: > I have reverted the -z defs change in rawhide. A substantial number of > underlinked binaries are still shipped in rawhide after this change, either > due to explicit overrides or incomplete build flags injection. This means > that it is n

Re: GCC broken in rawhide?

2018-01-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 03:55:53PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 01/29/2018 03:43 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >Is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Annobin (no user-visible > >improvements, only yet another global distrowide size increase) really worth > >the circular dependency nightmare (r

Re: Packaging DSO symlinks

2018-01-29 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On 29 January 2018 at 15:11, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hello, > > You might have seen that we are trying to eliminate /sbin/ldconfig from > scriptlets which would speedup installation / upgrade of packages > **significantly**. > > One of cases Fl

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Replace glibc's libcrypt with libxcrypt

2018-01-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 03:38:00PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:46:06 +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > > > = System Wide Change: Replace glibc's libcrypt with libxcrypt = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Replace_glibc_libcrypt_with_libxcrypt > > > > Change owner(s): >

Packaging DSO symlinks

2018-01-29 Thread Igor Gnatenko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello, You might have seen that we are trying to eliminate /sbin/ldconfig from scriptlets which would speedup installation / upgrade of packages **significantly**. One of cases Florian brought that in case of libcrypt/libcrypt-nss, libraries didn't

Re: -z defs linker flag activated in Fedora rawhide

2018-01-29 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: >> I have reverted the -z defs change in rawhide. A substantial number of >> underlinked binaries are still shipped in rawhide after this change, either >> due to explicit overrides

Orphaning ofono

2018-01-29 Thread Rex Dieter
I will be orphaning the ofono package today. I'd primarily packaged it with the the intention that it may become a new dependency of pulseaudio (which never happened), and I've not been able to give it the time it needs. Recently updated to latest 1.22 release which fixed a long-standing FTBFS

Re: -z defs linker flag activated in Fedora rawhide

2018-01-29 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > I have reverted the -z defs change in rawhide. A substantial number of > underlinked binaries are still shipped in rawhide after this change, either > due to explicit overrides or incomplete build flags injection. This means > that it is ne

Re: GCC broken in rawhide?

2018-01-29 Thread Florian Weimer
On 01/29/2018 03:43 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Annobin (no user-visible improvements, only yet another global distrowide size increase) really worth the circular dependency nightmare (rebuilding annobin requires GCC, but GCC is configured to not work without

Re: Test gating enabled in Bodhi

2018-01-29 Thread Kamil Paral
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Good Morning Fedorans! > > On Thursday, a new version of Bodhi was deployed that enabled Bodhi to > gate updates based on test results. You may notice a "Test Gating > Status" message in the right have side of the page. > > One thing t

Re: GCC broken in rawhide?

2018-01-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Annobin (no user-visible improvements, only yet another global distrowide size increase) really worth the circular dependency nightmare (rebuilding annobin requires GCC, but GCC is configured to not work without annobin) or is it time to drop the feature

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Replace glibc's libcrypt with libxcrypt

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:46:06 +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > = System Wide Change: Replace glibc's libcrypt with libxcrypt = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Replace_glibc_libcrypt_with_libxcrypt > > Change owner(s): > * Björn Esser > * Florian Weimer > > There are plans to remove libcrypt fr

Re: -z defs linker flag activated in Fedora rawhide

2018-01-29 Thread Florian Weimer
I have reverted the -z defs change in rawhide. A substantial number of underlinked binaries are still shipped in rawhide after this change, either due to explicit overrides or incomplete build flags injection. This means that it is necessary to review built RPM packages for incorrectly linked

Re: yaml-cpp: Better to only build static libraries?

2018-01-29 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 8:27 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Richard Shaw wrote: > > Per https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1539386 I've now been > > bitten twice after being asked to update a package in EPEL. > > > > Per this version this was a patch level update but it still breaks > > appli

Re: kernel component on bugzilla and call for "old bugs hunting season" to pen

2018-01-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 1:09 PM, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On 27 January 2018 at 21:50, Justin Forbes wrote: > [..] >> >> > 1) Probably it would be good start posting one time a week summary stats >> > about Bugzilla tickets. Any volunteer to create such weekly report? >> >> 26

Re: yaml-cpp: Better to only build static libraries?

2018-01-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard Shaw wrote: > Per https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1539386 I've now been > bitten twice after being asked to update a package in EPEL. > > Per this version this was a patch level update but it still breaks > applications so I'm wondering if it would just be best to only supply a

[Test-Announce] **CANCELLED** Re: 2018-01-29 @ 17:00 UTC - Fedora 28 Blocker Review Meeting

2018-01-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2018-01-29 at 01:43 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > # F28 Blocker Review meeting > # Date: 2018-01-29 > # Time: 17:00 UTC > # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net > > Hi folks! We have two proposed blockers for Fedora 28 Beta and one > for Fedora 28 Final, so let's have a r

Re: Correct FSF address

2018-01-29 Thread Vascom
Do you mean use addressless license notices https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-howto.en.html пн, 29 янв. 2018 г. в 13:13, Florian Weimer : > On 01/29/2018 10:23 AM, Vascom wrote: > > Which address is really correct and should be used by upstream? > > The FSF recommends using

Re: Correct FSF address

2018-01-29 Thread Florian Weimer
On 01/29/2018 10:23 AM, Vascom wrote: Which address is really correct and should be used by upstream? The FSF recommends using nowadays. Thanks, Florian ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Correct FSF address

2018-01-29 Thread Vascom
rpmlint show error then in source code present incorrect FSF address and we have recomendation to correct it https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_Rpmlint_issues#incorrect-fsf-address According this recomendation correct address can be taken from http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.txt

Re: Package Wishlist (Was: Working on a Dracut bug?)

2018-01-29 Thread inderaue23
> Matthew Miller hat am 27. Januar 2018 um 09:52 > geschrieben: > > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 08:06:59PM +0100, inderau...@arcor.de wrote: > > > You are welcome to add things to > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist > > hmm but there seems to be no mailing list addr

Re: -z defs linker flag activated in Fedora rawhide

2018-01-29 Thread Petr Pisar
On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 04:14:52PM +, Tom Hughes wrote: > There seems to be a similar issue with perl extensions that use C++ failing > to link due to missing libstdc++ symbols, eg: > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=24412387 > > I think in that case the issue is that lib

Re: [heads-up] soname version bump for evolution-data-server in rawhide

2018-01-29 Thread David Tardon
Hello, On Mon, 2018-01-29 at 08:58 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > The list of dependencies according to: ># dnf repoquery --whatrequires evolution-data-server-devel -- > alldeps > follows: >evolution >folks >maya-calendar > but it seems surprisingly low number of packages, because I kn

[heads-up] soname version bump for evolution-data-server in rawhide

2018-01-29 Thread Milan Crha
Hello, the next week release (2018-02-05) of evolution-data-server, version 3.27.90, will contain a soname version bump of libcamel, libedataserver and libedataserverui. It contains some backward incompatible changes, though I expect minimal impact on other packages, because that API was mo