Re: [modularity] Modularizing the world fast and iteratively

2017-09-15 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jan Pazdziora wrote: > But you get upgraded even now. Firefox gets major-version upgrades > even within the life of the Fedora version, as do other packages. Firefox gets upgraded for security reasons. Sticking to an old version is a very bad idea. Other packages get upgraded because it is consi

Re: Call for testing - Firefox CSD/titlebar

2017-09-15 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 09/15/2017 07:28 PM, Greg Evenden wrote: On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 3:28 AM, Greg Evenden i never said it did go anywhere, im just saying how bad the Hamburger menu is. another reason why People use Google Chrome. I just looked at Chrome and it's very similar to Firefox. There is no menubar

Re: Call for testing - Firefox CSD/titlebar

2017-09-15 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 09/15/2017 05:32 PM, Greg Evenden wrote: i disagree with the Min an Max buttons being disabled by default, they should remain ON . on Windows an MACOSX there on by default so why not Linux? people stay with Windows cause its user friendly. only way Linux will get more users an thats to keep

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Deprecate TCP wrappers

2017-09-15 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Do, 14.09.17 07:25, Nico Kadel-Garcia (nka...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> And... "let's replace something that is stable, long supported, and >> works across multiple platforms with an untested new systemd feature >> for which stable softw

Re: Call for testing - Firefox CSD/titlebar

2017-09-15 Thread Greg Evenden
> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 3:28 AM, Greg Evenden wrote: > > The Menu Bar didn't go anywhere; if you had it enabled, it should be there. i never said it did go anywhere, im just saying how bad the Hamburger menu is. another reason why People use Google Chrome. but getting back ontopic, i dont mi

Re: Call for testing - Firefox CSD/titlebar

2017-09-15 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 3:28 AM, Greg Evenden wrote: > i like it, but without the Menu Bar its still unusable for me. an i hate the > Hamburger Crapola The Menu Bar didn't go anywhere; if you had it enabled, it should be there. ___ devel mailing list -

Re: Call for testing - Firefox CSD/titlebar

2017-09-15 Thread Greg Evenden
i disagree with the Min an Max buttons being disabled by default, they should remain ON . on Windows an MACOSX there on by default so why not Linux? people stay with Windows cause its user friendly. only way Linux will get more users an thats to keep Linux user friendly, ___

Re: Call for testing - Firefox CSD/titlebar

2017-09-15 Thread Greg Evenden
i like it, but without the Menu Bar its still unusable for me. an i hate the Hamburger Crapola ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Fedora 27-20170915.n.0 compose check report

2017-09-15 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Cloud_base qcow2 x86_64 Workstation live i386 Cloud_base raw-xz x86_64 Server boot i386 Kde live i386 Failed openQA tests: 18/128 (x86_64), 1/18 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in 27-20170914.n.0): ID: 142743 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso

Fedora Rawhide-20170915.n.0 compose check report

2017-09-15 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Cloud_base qcow2 x86_64 Atomic qcow2 x86_64 Server dvd i386 Workstation live i386 Cloud_base raw-xz x86_64 Server boot i386 Atomic raw-xz x86_64 Kde live i386 Failed openQA tests: 25/128 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20170914.n.0):

Re: heads up: poppler soname bump

2017-09-15 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Mon, 2017-09-11 at 13:55 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Gwyn Ciesla wrote: > > > > I've had issues with texlive and gdal not installing on Rawhide > > > because > > > of poppler: > > > > > > > DEBUG util.py:450:- nothing provides > > > > libpoppler.so.68()(64bit) > > > > needed by > > > > > >

Re: Call for testing - Firefox CSD/titlebar

2017-09-15 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
I was able to view the title of the page in the Top Bar. That function is accessible via Gnome Tweak. Minimize and maximize buttons should remain disabled by default on Gnome Shell. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: l...@fedoraproject.org W: http://www.coolest-storm.net

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Deprecate TCP wrappers

2017-09-15 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
jkurik wrote: > [...] > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Deprecate_TCP_wrappers > > TCP wrappers is a simple tool to block incoming connection on > application level. This was very useful 20 years ago, when there were > no firewalls in Linux. This is not the case for today and connection >

Re: Call for testing - Firefox CSD/titlebar

2017-09-15 Thread Eric Griffith
> On Sep 15, 2017, at 12:08, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > >> On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 18:03 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> * Why are there the minimize/maximize buttons? They should not be >> there in Gnome. > > I filed this one this morning: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1491981 > As

Re: Introduction

2017-09-15 Thread Charalampos Stratakis
Hello Philip and welcome to Fedora! Charalampos Stratakis Software Engineer Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat - Original Message - From: "Philip Kovacs" To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 5:44:06 PM Subject: Introduction Hello all. My name is Philip Kovac

Re: Call for testing - Firefox CSD/titlebar

2017-09-15 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 18:03 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > * Why are there the minimize/maximize buttons? They should not be > there in Gnome. I filed this one this morning: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1491981 -- Mathieu ___ devel mailin

Re: Providing ABI/API assurances for the base runtime in Fedora.

2017-09-15 Thread Petr Pisar
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:28:51PM -0500, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > With the split I'm suggesting for interface/implementation you could move > your installed glibc to any release you want that is no older than the > platform-glibc package used to build all of your installed packages. > And that "no

Re: Call for testing - Firefox CSD/titlebar

2017-09-15 Thread Vít Ondruch
Two notes for the beginning: * I am missing the title of the page. * Why are there the minimize/maximize buttons? They should not be there in Gnome. Vít Dne 15.9.2017 v 09:26 Martin Stransky napsal(a): > Guys, > > there's available [1] new Firefox package with emulated CSD rendering > [2]. >

Re: Raising requirement for application icons in GNOME Software

2017-09-15 Thread Artur Iwicki
One question from me: quite a few games don't actually have separate icon art, instead they just reuse one of the game's assets (the hero avatar, for example). Would simply upscaling the "iconized" asset be enough, or do we want a high quality "real" icon instead? ___

Introduction

2017-09-15 Thread Philip Kovacs
Hello all.  My name is Philip Kovacs and I would like to introduce myself. I'm in the US and I've been in software development for more than 25 years.  My interests are in parallel and distributed computing, cloud, networking,  virtualization, container technology, performance monitoring, bunch of

Re: Schedule for Tomorrow's FESCo Meeting (2017-09-15)

2017-09-15 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Adam Miller wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the > FESCo meeting Friday at 16:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on > irc.freenode.net. > > My apologies for the late notice, but I"m likely going to be gone for most of today's meeting. I m

Re: [Pagure] Allow deleting and force-push for auxiliary branches

2017-09-15 Thread Pavel Valena
- Original Message - > From: "David Kaspar [Dee'Kej]" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 5:05:32 PM > Subject: [Pagure] Allow deleting and force-push for auxiliary branches > > Hello folks, > > I have stumbled upon this several time

Re: Bug 921430 - Error updating SMART data: sk_disk_smart_status: Input/output error (udisks-error-quark, 0)

2017-09-15 Thread Tony Nelson
On 17-09-14 10:01:21, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On 09/13/2017 09:43 PM, Tony Nelson wrote: For some reason, `dnf list libatasmart` says "Error: No matching Packages to list", but `rpm -q libatasmart` returns the installed version.  I've done `dnf clean all` twice, installed the update with `rpm -

[Test-Announce] 2017-09-18 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 27 Blocker Review Meeting

2017-09-15 Thread Kamil Paral
# F27 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2017-09-18 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net Hi folks! We currently have quite a few proposed Beta blockers, so let's have a Fedora 27 blocker review meeting. If you have time today, you can take a look at the proposed or

[Test-Announce] Proposal to cancel: 2017-09-18 Fedora QA Meeting

2017-09-15 Thread Kamil Paral
Hi, we'll be heavily focusing on F27 Beta testing and I don't know about any urgent topic to discuss, so I propose we cancel this meeting. If you have any topics, please send them to test list and we'll discuss them there. Thanks, Kamil ___ test-announce

Re: Bugzilla auto-CC

2017-09-15 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Milan Crha wrote: Thus the change didn't take into the effect, while it's more than two weeks now. For what it's worth, the change definitely took effect for the GNOME SIG. We would be complaining very loudly if it hadn't. :) Michael ___

Re: Merging two updates

2017-09-15 Thread Kamil Paral
On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2017-09-14 at 20:43 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga > > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Is it possible to merge updates in bodhi? The reasons is packages > > > depends from the s

Re: ardour5 build failures in rawhide

2017-09-15 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 15/09/17 11:41 +0200, Guido Aulisi wrote: Hi, recently ardour5 failed to build in rawhide, I think because glibmm now requires c++14. I patched the spec at the beginning this way and it works on my pc: # glibmm needs --std=c++11 for F-23..F-27 and --std=c++14 for F-28 and later # --std=c++14

Re: getting kernel-devel added

2017-09-15 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
 Hi, /*Ben Williams*/ wrote on Tue, 12 Sep 2017 11:35:08 -0400: hello This is an issue i am seeing with new users: I was at a University installfest this weekend and this was the major issues for Endusers. case A) Students are using Fedora on windows in a VM (Vbox in this case) for a clas

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-15 Thread James Hogarth
On 13 September 2017 at 01:39, James Hogarth wrote: > > > On 12 Sep 2017 10:49 pm, "Laura Abbott" wrote: > > On 09/05/2017 09:41 AM, Laura Abbott wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Kernel 4.13 was released this past weekend. This kernel has been >> built for rawhide and is building for F27 as well. We will b

ardour5 build failures in rawhide

2017-09-15 Thread Guido Aulisi
Hi, recently ardour5 failed to build in rawhide, I think because glibmm now requires c++14. I patched the spec at the beginning this way and it works on my pc: # glibmm needs --std=c++11 for F-23..F-27 and --std=c++14 for F-28 and later # --std=c++14 is the default for F-28 %if !0%{?fedora}%{?rhe

Call for testing - Firefox CSD/titlebar

2017-09-15 Thread Martin Stransky
Guys, there's available [1] new Firefox package with emulated CSD rendering [2]. What does it mean for you? Firefox renders CSD decorations on its own then and you don't see the default gnome titlebar on top of the main window and you get a "Chromish" look. That should also work with Firefox