Re: [SONAME change] MySQL, MariaDB

On Fri, 2017-07-14 at 03:15 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > you can move your symlinks and lying to RPM with provides wherever you > want - it simply can not work that way - period - it makes me tried > wathcing all that discussions while 3rd party repos provided compat-libs > for fedora packag

Re: [SONAME change] MySQL, MariaDB

On Fri, 2017-07-14 at 03:15 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > you can move your symlinks and lying to RPM with provides wherever you > want - it simply can not work that way - period - it makes me tried > wathcing all that discussions while 3rd party repos provided compat-libs > for fedora packag

Re: [SONAME change] MySQL, MariaDB

On Thu, 2017-07-13 at 19:40 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2017-07-13 at 10:37 +0200, Michal Schorm wrote: > > > A new version of MariaDB 10.2-4 is out, it now has fixed symlinks and > > > Provides. > > > > I'm afraid even this build doesn't entirely work right, f

Re: [SONAME change] MySQL, MariaDB

Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2017-07-13 at 10:37 +0200, Michal Schorm wrote: >> A new version of MariaDB 10.2-4 is out, it now has fixed symlinks and >> Provides. > > I'm afraid even this build doesn't entirely work right, for some > reason: see this build failure I just got notified about by

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:24:54PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >>repeating something that was already mentioned on this thread, but you > >>can still run a 32b userspace on a 64b kernel. > >We'd need someone interested in making a Fedora spin for that, though > i686 userspace would be wasted nons

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 04:08:55PM -0400, Rob Clark wrote: > > Please do not forget about desktops (Fedora Workstation). > > Fresh install Fedora Workstation x86_64 consume 1.2Gb RAM. If we want > > web surfing on Intel compute stick with 2GB RAM the swapping occurs > > here 100%. > > It would be g

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 5:28 AM, Михаил Гаврилов wrote: >> nothing swaps - i have running Fedora servers on VMware with 1 GB RAM (and >> they don't have swap at all) for a decade now and not touched 32bit systems >> in that time wether on servers nor on my personal machines > > Please do not forge

Re: Starting an x86_32 SIG

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Cool, thank you for starting this. I'm afraid I will only have > limited time to help, but I do want to help. What would be ideal > for me is a mailinglist which get Cc-ed on any i686 bugs on which > I can lurk and occasionally jump in to

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 13 July 2017 at 22:44, Reindl Harald wrote: > stop that nonsense, our main-sever hosting 600 domains, running some httpd > instances, mysqld, a named caching-resolver, dhcpd and what not is using 1.1 > GB memory, a sftp-server using mysqld for the user-database is far below 200 > MB and a whole

Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

On Thu, 2017-07-13 at 11:07 -0600, William Moreno wrote: > * gcc - Ready. Confirmed by jakub. > > * glibc - Ready. Confirmed by myself. > > * golang - Ready. Confirmed by jcajka. > > We are ready for mass rebuild. > > > Thanks for these awesome work to every one involved. I suspect the curre

Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 09:35:41AM -0600, Jeff Law wrote: > > You mentioned possibly shifting the GCC process a little bit earlier. > > Is it possible to maybe do that as well here, to give a little more > > breathing room? Maybe even not for 2018 but for beyond, as we intend to > > keep to this sc

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: No More i686 Kernels

El jue, 13-07-2017 a las 11:53 +0200, Florian Weimer escribió: > On 07/13/2017 11:40 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > This is 100% a system wide change, the releng issue linked does not > > exist, however not having a kernel will mean that we have to stop > > making everything for 32 bit x86. The only

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Thu, 2017-07-13 at 10:40 -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > - Original Message - > > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 07:47:58AM -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > To give an example outside of the kernel, the installer 'Reclaim Space' > > > > function has been broken on i686 for about 10 months

Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

* gcc - Ready. Confirmed by jakub. * glibc - Ready. Confirmed by myself. * golang - Ready. Confirmed by jcajka. We are ready for mass rebuild. Thanks for these awesome work to every one involved. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

It would be good before disabling i686 kernel building at first decrease memory consumption for x86_64 at least until 500MB. +1 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 07/12/2017 09:23 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 12-07-17 16:33, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> On 12-07-17 15:18, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi,

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 07/11/2017 01:57 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > The fact that i686 kernels continue to work in general is basically luck. I'm going to clarify this point and say that it's less luck and more inertia and if nobody cares enough sometimes it just stops. Some examples from recent history: i686 builds wer

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks

On Thu, 2017-07-13 at 00:36 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Koji will take care of the signing for Flatpaks  > built in Koji as it does for RPMs built in Koji. Sigul[0] is actually the system that signs the packages. They are placed into a Koji tag when they need to be signed, and when Sigul is done

Re: [SONAME change] MySQL, MariaDB

On Thu, 2017-07-13 at 10:37 +0200, Michal Schorm wrote: > A new version of MariaDB 10.2-4 is out, it now has fixed symlinks and > Provides. I'm afraid even this build doesn't entirely work right, for some reason: see this build failure I just got notified about by koschei: https://apps.fedoraproj

Concerning Beignet OpenCL driver stability

As darktable co-maintainer, I am getting a lot of crash reports related to Beignet OpenCL driver (see below). Recently darktable developers inserted Beignet into blacklist because they state that it is a poorly maintained OpenCL driver. Since it is a library shipped by default on Fedora installatio

Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

On 07/13/2017 09:27 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 09:23:58AM -0600, Jeff Law wrote: Likewise. We should keep this schedule in mind as we work our way through stage3 into stage4. Ideally Marek would start the test builds prior to the Christmas break, even if we

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:40:44AM -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > I don't think that's fair at all. There is a whole anaconda team that > Case in point. The anaconda team fixes bugs in anaconda. There are few (no?) > outside contributors. That's fine. That's the case with a lot of open source so

Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 09:23:58AM -0600, Jeff Law wrote: > >> Likewise. We should keep this schedule in mind as we work our way > >> through stage3 into stage4. Ideally Marek would start the test builds > >> prior to the Christmas break, even if we're still in stage3. > >> We'll review on the 9t

Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

On 07/13/2017 09:01 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 03:14:24PM -0600, Jeff Law wrote: >>> LGTM. >> Likewise. We should keep this schedule in mind as we work our way >> through stage3 into stage4. Ideally Marek would start the test builds >> prior to the Christmas break, even i

Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

Just to don't confuse you: I kinda used your Mass Rebuild for my intensions - updgrade of MariaDB library. So there will be some packages broken by me. But we actively monitoring and fixing them. I be glad, if the Mass Rebuild started *after* this build: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskin

Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 03:14:24PM -0600, Jeff Law wrote: > > LGTM. > Likewise. We should keep this schedule in mind as we work our way > through stage3 into stage4. Ideally Marek would start the test builds > prior to the Christmas break, even if we're still in stage3. > > We'll review on the 9

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 07:47:58AM -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote: >> > > To give an example outside of the kernel, the installer 'Reclaim Space' >> > > function has been broken on i686 for about 10 months, and no-one seems >> > > to be lin

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 07/11/2017 11:03 PM, Justin Forbes wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:26:03PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: I ran into this unannounced change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels If this is accepted, all

Re: un-retire rubygem-factory_girl

- Original Message - > From: "Vít Ondruch" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > , "Ruby SIG mailing list" > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:07:31 AM > Subject: un-retire rubygem-factory_girl > > Hi, > > rubygem-factory_girl was retired during march since it was orphan

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

- Original Message - > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 07:47:58AM -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > To give an example outside of the kernel, the installer 'Reclaim Space' > > > function has been broken on i686 for about 10 months, and no-one seems > > > to be lining up to fix that one either: >

Re: Commencing perl to perl-interpreter rename

On 2017-07-12, Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2017-06-15, Jan Kurik wrote: >>= Proposed System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/perl_Package_to_Install_Core_Modules >> > Because all Fedora branches recognize perl-interpreter dependency now > I

Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 07:48:00AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 12.7.2017 v 16:09 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 02:53:36PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> We currently have an invalid IFUNC resolver in libgcc.a on POWER > >> (rhbz#1467526). glibc in

Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 03:21:20PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > We are ready for mass rebuild. > Kudos for the great work, thanks!! Seriously! Thanks Carlos, Florian, Jakub, Jeff, and everyone else! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 07:47:58AM -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > To give an example outside of the kernel, the installer 'Reclaim Space' > > function has been broken on i686 for about 10 months, and no-one seems > > to be lining up to fix that one either: > To be fair, no-one seems to be lining

Re: Self Introduction

On 07/13/2017 01:01 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >>> I can sponsor you. Please do two or three reviews of other packages: >>> since you're involved in Deepin, anything from >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=DeepinDEPackageReview, >>> or otherwise anything from >>> http://fe

Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 08:57:52AM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > On 07/13/2017 07:01 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > On 07/12/2017 08:10 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > >> On 07/11/2017 09:48 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > >>> On 07/11/2017 12:37 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > If we're lucky we can

Re: Starting an x86_32 SIG

On 12 July 2017 at 14:32, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > This is a notice to see if people are really interested in having a > SIG on 32 bit Intel. I haven't created a SIG so I am researching what > is needed but I started with this page > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/x86 > Thank

Re: Preventing broken updates tree (packages downgrade) during release upgrades

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > This is expected behavior... if we don't want downgrades then we either have > to get rid of the final freeze (not going to happen) or also freeze stable > Fedoras at the same time (also not going to happen). I upgraded a couple of syste

Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

On 07/13/2017 07:01 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > On 07/12/2017 08:10 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >> On 07/11/2017 09:48 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >>> On 07/11/2017 12:37 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: If we're lucky we can get everything ready for the 12th, but we might need another day or tw

Re: Preventing broken updates tree (packages downgrade) during release upgrades

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 5:02 AM, Germano Massullo wrote: There are many package maintainers who caused F25 packages being newer than F26 packages, so during F25->F26 upgrade, dnf wanted to downgrade them, for example packages quoted below. I think that bodhi quality assurance should be improved

Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

- Original Message - > From: "Carlos O'Donell" > To: "Florian Weimer" , "Development discussions related > to Fedora" > , "Jakub Jelinek" , "Jakub > Cajka" > Cc: "Jeff Law" , "Stephen Gallagher" > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:01:03 PM > Subject: Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at ris

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

- Original Message - > It's not a question of a single specific bug, though. It's a question > of having someone or a group of someones interesting in the *ongoing > requirement* for making sure i686 still works. > > To give an example outside of the kernel, the installer 'Reclaim Space

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Thursday, 13 July 2017 at 11:28, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: > > On 12 July 2017 at 16:32, Adam Williamson > > wrote: > > > >> To give an example outside of the kernel, the installer 'Reclaim Space' > >> function has been broken on i

Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

On Thursday, 13 July 2017 at 13:25, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > On to, 13 heinä 2017, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > On 07/12/2017 08:10 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > > On 07/11/2017 09:48 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > > > On 07/11/2017 12:37 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > > > > If we're lucky we can

Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

On to, 13 heinä 2017, Carlos O'Donell wrote: On 07/12/2017 08:10 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: On 07/11/2017 09:48 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: On 07/11/2017 12:37 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: If we're lucky we can get everything ready for the 12th, but we might need another day or two given how long

Re: Using ndb in RPM

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 09:11:42AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 06:53:40AM -0700, stan wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:52:32 +0200 > > Michael Schroeder wrote: > > > > > So, suggesting different databases is fine and all, but they have > > > to be integrated and we

Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

On 07/12/2017 08:10 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > On 07/11/2017 09:48 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >> On 07/11/2017 12:37 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >>> If we're lucky we can get everything ready for the 12th, but we might >>> need another day or two given how long it takes to build gcc on all >>> the

Preventing broken updates tree (packages downgrade) during release upgrades

There are many package maintainers who caused F25 packages being newer than F26 packages, so during F25->F26 upgrade, dnf wanted to downgrade them, for example packages quoted below. I think that bodhi quality assurance should be improved to prevent such events that break updates "tree" expat

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: No More i686 Kernels

On 07/13/2017 11:40 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > This is 100% a system wide change, the releng issue linked does not exist, > however not having a kernel will mean that we have to stop making everything > for 32 bit x86. The only thing we could do is make 32 bot x86 containers, > which is somethi

ppisar pushed to perl-PAR-Packer (f26). "perl dependency renamed to perl-interpreter "

From a1d7d58478c10040f22e815940efcd3cbca11ce6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?Petr=20P=C3=ADsa=C5=99?= Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:36:06 +0200 Subject: perl dependency renamed to perl-interpreter --- perl-PAR-P

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: No More i686 Kernels

This is 100% a system wide change, the releng issue linked does not exist, however not having a kernel will mean that we have to stop making everything for 32 bit x86. The only thing we could do is make 32 bot x86 containers, which is something we do not do at all today. It makes me want to loo

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 12 July 2017 at 16:32, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> To give an example outside of the kernel, the installer 'Reclaim Space' >> function has been broken on i686 for about 10 months, and no-one seems >> to be lining up to fix that one

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

> nothing swaps - i have running Fedora servers on VMware with 1 GB RAM (and > they don't have swap at all) for a decade now and not touched 32bit systems > in that time wether on servers nor on my personal machines Please do not forget about desktops (Fedora Workstation). Fresh install Fedora Wor

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 01:43:53PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >>> >>> If cost is an issue, consider to drop all these ppc, arm, s370 and >>> mips targets. >>> >>> Their user base is like magnitudes smaller than the i686 user base, >>> while these target are having a significant impact (and thu

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 07/11/2017 10:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:26:03PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >>> >>> I ran into this unannounced change: >>>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels >>> If

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 07/12/2017 12:16 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: >> >>> I still have my N270 netbook, but I guess even more people still have >>> Z6xx-based devices. Still, they're ove

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 07/12/2017 12:16 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > >> I still have my N270 netbook, but I guess even more people still have >> Z6xx-based devices. Still, they're over 7 years old at this point. > > > The N270s are still support

un-retire rubygem-factory_girl

Hi, rubygem-factory_girl was retired during march since it was orphaned for some while. I did not picked it up at that time, since nothing was using it. Now I discovered that it would be handy to have it in Fedora to be able to execute test suite of rubygem-cucumber-rails. Hence I inted to un-reti

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 05:08:29PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 11 July 2017 at 16:57, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > > wrote: > >> On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 at 22:26, Florian Weimer wrote: > >>> I ran into this unannounced change

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:26:03PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >> I ran into this unannounced change: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels >> If this is accepted, all x86 hardware on which Fedora can run wi

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > I ran into this unannounced change: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels > > If this is accepted, all x86 hardware on which Fedora can run will > support SSE2, and we should reflect that in the i686 build f

Re: [SONAME change] MySQL, MariaDB

A new version of MariaDB 10.2-4 is out, it now has fixed symlinks and Provides. Bugzilla tracker of issues in other packages should be filled up soon. The symlinks should stay around for a while, so all packages will have a time for transfer to the new library. However they will be removed (planne

Re: Using ndb in RPM

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 06:53:40AM -0700, stan wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:52:32 +0200 > Michael Schroeder wrote: > > > So, suggesting different databases is fine and all, but they have > > to be integrated and well tested. We re-added support for multiple > > database just for that, so that

Re: rawhide, dnf can not load RPM file *.fc26.x86_64.rpm

On 07/13/2017 06:30 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 07/12/2017 09:14 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: -rw-rw-r--. 1 chris chris unconfined_u:object_r:user_home_t:s0 53190 Jul 12 19:26 kernel-4.11.1