Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread gil
Il 12/12/2016 05:20, Chenxiong Qi ha scritto: hi i get: aesh]$ fedpkg build /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pyrpkg/__init__.py:314: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6 for (_, _, ssl_reason) in error.message: You might want to run fedora-packager-setu

Fedora Rawhide-20161214.n.1 compose check report

2016-12-14 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Workstation live i386 Kde live x86_64 Workstation live x86_64 Kde live i386 Failed openQA tests: 10/80 (x86_64), 1/15 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20161211.n.0): ID: 51305 Test: x86_64 universal install_shrink_ext4 URL: https:/

[Test-Announce] Fedora 26 Rawhide 20161214.n.1 nightly compose nominated for testing

2016-12-14 Thread rawhide
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 26 Rawhide 20161214.n.1. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: GSequencer upstream wants to package for fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 11:17:01PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Indeed, almost all the containers, app bundles etc. out there are > outright illegal, because they just repackage a random distro's > packages without including the corresponding SRPMs or equivalent. The > full corresponding sources wo

Re: GSequencer upstream wants to package for fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Florian Weimer wrote: > But these packaging systems produce source and binary packages at the > same time. In contrast, I have yet to encounter a container build > service which does that. This has the side effect that GPL compliance > and general availability of matching source code is rather po

Re: Gdm set both Desktop and laptop to an X session on Current fedora 25 Workstation.

2016-12-14 Thread Timothy Ward
On Tue, 2016-12-13 at 13:25 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2016-12-14 at 08:20 +1100, Timothy Ward wrote: > > Is there a current problem with gdm setting a X session or Wayland > > session as on login with Gdm setting Gnome or Gnome on Xorg still > > ends > > in an X session. > > > > Conf

Re: CVE-2016-8655, systemd, and Fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016, Scott Schmit wrote: IPsec requires AF_NETLINK (NETLINK_XFRM) to manage the security associations & security policies. libreswan probably also needs to be able to manage the routing for IPsec tunnels (NETLINK_ROUTE[6]). The nature of libreswan is that it allows custom "upd

Re: GSequencer upstream wants to package for fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bastien Nocera wrote: > You're right, it's better :) If you define "better" as larger download, higher use of RAM and disk space, less system integration, fewer and less timely security fixes and other bugfixes, etc., then yes, Flatpak is "better". ^^ See also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bun

Fedora 24 Respin 20161210 compose check report

2016-12-14 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Lxde live x86_64 Failed openQA tests: 2/22 (x86_64) ID: 51209 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_update_graphical URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/51209 ID: 51224 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall URL: https://openq

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2016-12-15 17:00 UTC) (old: 10)

2016-12-14 Thread James Antill
 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2016-12-08 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net.  Local time information (via. rktime): 2016-12-15 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PST 2016-12-15 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EST 2016-12-15 1

Re: F24 → F25 upgrade made my system sluggish (input lag?)

2016-12-14 Thread Thomas Daede
On 12/14/2016 03:29 AM, Martin Ueding wrote: > How could I diagnose this regressions? There are no issues in > `journalctl -f` whenever there is a short lag. Any log that might help? Could it be something to do with dbus? Do all of these actions make messages appear in dbus-monitor? I've noticed a

Re: Start packaging/maintaining in Fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2016-12-14 at 20:54 +0100, Ms Sanchez wrote: > Hey! > > This link: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_a_GNU_Hello_RPM_packagen > doesn't work. It returns a message saying there is no text. :-( It's got a stray 'n' on the end. Remove that. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Commun

Re: Start packaging/maintaining in Fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Ms Sanchez
Hey! This link: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_a_GNU_Hello_RPM_packagen doesn't work. It returns a message saying there is no text. :-( Thanks, Sylvia On 13/12/16 21:17, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On 12/13/2016 03:00 PM, Ms Sanchez wrote: To be honest I looked at wikis and s

Re: Start packaging/maintaining in Fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 09:00:35PM +0100, Ms Sanchez wrote: > To be honest I looked at wikis and so, but I'm still rather confused, I > don't know really where or how to start. Why do I want to start packaging? > Well, I want to keep contributing to Fedora but more into development. As I > kn

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 12/14/2016 11:40 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 09:21:37 -0500 > Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> On 12/14/2016 09:19 AM, Dave Love wrote: >>> Kevin Fenzi writes: >>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 14:36:06 + Dave Love wrote: > Simo Sorce writes: > >> I

Re: Start packaging/maintaining in Fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Vasco Rodrigues
+1 that. Keep the app not found, but add a help out Fedora section. On Mon, Dec 12, 2016, 12:38 Vít Ondruch wrote: > Hi Sylvia, > > Just wondering, what were the places you were looking at to find the > information how to start maintaining package in Fedora. Or what is the > reason you want to

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2016-12-14 at 09:48 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2016-12-13 at 12:19 +0200, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > > However, default Fedora 25 configuration[1] does not set the default ccache > > name to a collection, only FreeIPA client installer does this. > > Could we change that? Neve

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2016-12-13 at 18:52 +, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 13/12/16 18:19, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Tue, 2016-12-13 at 14:36 +, Dave Love wrote: > > > Simo Sorce writes: > > > > > > > If you really need to automate it because typing a password is too hard: > > > > cat ~/.mykrbpassword | kinit

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2016-12-13 at 12:19 +0200, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > However, default Fedora 25 configuration[1] does not set the default ccache > name to a collection, only FreeIPA client installer does this. Could we change that? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: Adam

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2016-12-13 at 13:23 +0100, Dan Horák wrote: > > krb5-auth-dialog directly uses krb5 API, not GSSAPI, so your only > > choice with it is to use 'kswitch' utility to explicitly switch > > credential cache prior to use of the krb5-auth-dialog. > > thanks for the explanation This looks a lot

Re: GSequencer upstream wants to package for fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 12/14/2016 05:55 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> I disagree with this assertion. Flatpak, snappy, docker containers, >> etc are not an indication people are giving up on Free Software. They >> are a mechanism the focuses on easing a develop

Re: GSequencer upstream wants to package for fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Florian Weimer
On 12/14/2016 05:55 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: I disagree with this assertion. Flatpak, snappy, docker containers, etc are not an indication people are giving up on Free Software. They are a mechanism the focuses on easing a developer's ability to distribute their software without worrying about le

Re: GSequencer upstream wants to package for fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Christian Schaller > wrote: >> That is not 100% correct. You can make a non-sandboxed Flatpak and >> it would work just as well as an RPM in terms of hardware access. >> Enabling sandboxing however would need

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 21:40:20 + David Woodhouse wrote: > On Sun, 2016-12-11 at 18:34 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > All package maintainers will want to make sure they have updated to > > the  > > following package versions (some may be in testing as of this > > email): > > > >  python-

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 14:25:07 + Dave Love wrote: > Simo Sorce writes: > > > But I am not sure why you would need to forward your user > > credentials to servers normally. Did you copy your certs everywhere > > before ? I would think the normal case is that people have 1 > > development machi

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 13:21:50 +0200 Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > I cannot tell of how Fedora Infrastructure would use features > available in FreeIPA, but at least on FreeIPA level we have support > for multi-factor authentication on Kerberos level. > > The use of it is a bit less convenient right

Re: GSequencer upstream wants to package for fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Christian Schaller
That is a lot of different things mashed into one here, and while I can not even begin to understand how you can bash our commitment to Free Software and at the same time be an argent backer of Shuttleworths Snappy is beyond me, but I am sure is somehow makes sense to you. Also I don't think it i

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 09:21:37 -0500 Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 12/14/2016 09:19 AM, Dave Love wrote: > > Kevin Fenzi writes: > > > >> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 14:36:06 + > >> Dave Love wrote: > >> > >>> Simo Sorce writes: > >>> > If you really need to automate it because typing a

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Pavel Valena
- Original Message - > From: "Randy Barlow" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 5:45:29 AM > Subject: Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes > > On Mon, 2016-12-12 at 14:33 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > First, I'll note you don't need to get

Re: GSequencer upstream wants to package for fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Christian Schaller wrote: > That is not 100% correct. You can make a non-sandboxed Flatpak and > it would work just as well as an RPM in terms of hardware access. > Enabling sandboxing however would need some thought and development > for a lot of such application

Re: GSequencer upstream wants to package for fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:27:36AM -0500, Christian Schaller wrote: > That is not 100% correct. You can make a non-sandboxed Flatpak and > it would work just as well as an RPM in terms of hardware access. > Enabling sandboxing however would need some thought and development > for a lot of such app

Re: GSequencer upstream wants to package for fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Christian Schaller
That is not 100% correct. You can make a non-sandboxed Flatpak and it would work just as well as an RPM in terms of hardware access. Enabling sandboxing however would need some thought and development for a lot of such applications, but we are slowly but surely working on it through things like th

Re: GSequencer upstream wants to package for fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > You're right, it's better :) > Not really. Flatpak is incredibly limited in its abilities. Applications that interface with hardware directly are out of the question, for example. That means lots of pro-AV applications simply won't work pr

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 13.12.2016 v 22:40 David Woodhouse napsal(a): > On Sun, 2016-12-11 at 18:34 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> All package maintainers will want to make sure they have updated to >> the >> following package versions (some may be in testing as of this email): >> >> python-cccolutils-1.4-1 >

Re: GSequencer upstream wants to package for fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Bastien Nocera
You're right, it's better :) - Original Message - > Bastien Nocera wrote: > > I would advise you to look into packaging your application using Flatpak: > > http://flatpak.org/ > > so that you can package your application for both Fedora, and every other > > distribution out there that has

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Dave Love
Simo Sorce writes: > The krb5.conf is interchangeable if you use a subset of directives > common to both, this directive is not common to both, therefore it is > incompatible with Heimdal. Obviously; sorry I pointed it out. > Samba has been ported to MIT Kerberos for Fedora uses, and the abilit

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Dave Love
Simo Sorce writes: > But I am not sure why you would need to forward your user credentials to > servers normally. Did you copy your certs everywhere before ? I would > think the normal case is that people have 1 development machine where > they handle packaging. Some people use "Enterprise Linux

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 12/14/2016 09:19 AM, Dave Love wrote: > Kevin Fenzi writes: > >> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 14:36:06 + >> Dave Love wrote: >> >>> Simo Sorce writes: >>> If you really need to automate it because typing a password is too hard: cat ~/.mykrbpassword | kinit myusername >>> >>> It needs

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Dave Love
Kevin Fenzi writes: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 14:36:06 + > Dave Love wrote: > >> Simo Sorce writes: >> >> > If you really need to automate it because typing a password is too >> > hard: cat ~/.mykrbpassword | kinit myusername >> >> It needs to be automated principally because the password i

Python 3.6 in rawhide

2016-12-14 Thread Charalampos Stratakis
Hello everyone, Python 3.6 release candidate 1 is now residing in rawhide (or more specifically at f26-python3 sidetag). A lot of packages have been rebuilt at the side tag and for the rest, a ticket for a targeted rebuild has been filled [0]. As soon as the targeted rebuild happens, I will ask

Re: Packages up for grabs

2016-12-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Martin Kolman wrote: > Is the way livemedia-creator that different from livecd-tools ? Or > harder to use ? livemedia-creator is just a wrapper around Anaconda and is thus limited by what Anaconda can do. In particular, it does not support a persistent package cache. You have to jump through big

Re: GSequencer upstream wants to package for fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bastien Nocera wrote: > I would advise you to look into packaging your application using Flatpak: > http://flatpak.org/ > so that you can package your application for both Fedora, and every other > distribution out there that has Flatpak available to it. That is no replacement for a native RPM pac

Re: Start packaging/maintaining in Fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 13.12.2016 v 21:00 Ms Sanchez napsal(a): > > > > On 12/12/16 13:38, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> >> Hi Sylvia, >> >> Just wondering, what were the places you were looking at to find the >> information how to start maintaining package in Fedora. Or what is >> the reason you want to package something

Re: yubico-piv-tool & p11-kit

2016-12-14 Thread Stef Walter
On 03.12.2016 13:50, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: > So apparently yubico-piv-tool ships $libdir/libykpkcs11.so*, but this > doesn't get picked up by p11-kit by default. I suspect it has gone > unnoticed largely because for most crucial operations the opensc > module also works with Yubikeys. However,

Re: rawhide: Illegal char '-' (0x2d) in: Release: 3.fc26-pending

2016-12-14 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Wed, 2016-12-14 at 12:12 +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos > wrote: > > Any idea on why this happens when attempting to build in rawhide? > > Is > > the buildroot broken? > > You need to update fedpkg/pyrpkg. The version from updates-testi

Re: missing credentials

2016-12-14 Thread Milan Crha
On Tue, 2016-12-13 at 10:08 -0800, Howard Howell wrote: > The first one GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 769204 says: > Status:  RESOLVED NOTGNOME Hi, yes, that's correct, there was a problem in the gpg/gpg2, not in the evolution-data-server as such. Please read through it for some pointers into

F24 → F25 upgrade made my system sluggish (input lag?)

2016-12-14 Thread Martin Ueding
I have upgraded my Fedora installation from 24 to 25. Since then, things that were done instantly before *sometimes* take half a second now. Examples are: - Switching the workspace in Awesome WM - Typing something into the terminal (Konsole, fish shell) - Pasting with the mousewheel (e.g. into Fre

Re: GSequencer upstream wants to package for fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Bastien Nocera
Hey Joel, - Original Message - > Hi all > > My name is Joël Krähemann. I maintain Advanced Gtk+ Sequencer and I'd > like to provide it in fedora. Linux is my OS of choice since 2001. > Along the time I have used many distributions like debian, linux from > scratch, SUSE, fedora and a few

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On ke, 14 joulu 2016, Petr Mensik wrote: That sounds like way to use (sort of) certificates again. With updated realmd package I can now save fedora account password into Gnome keyring. But... I thought about it yesterday, but did not dare to ask. Are not password less strong kind of authenticat

Re: rawhide: Illegal char '-' (0x2d) in: Release: 3.fc26-pending

2016-12-14 Thread Dan Horák
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 12:00:06 +0100 Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > Any idea on why this happens when attempting to build in rawhide? Is > the buildroot broken? > > $ fedpkg build > error: line 6: Illegal char '-' (0x2d) in: Release: 3.fc26-pending > error: query of specfile /home/.../fedora/gnu

Re: rawhide: Illegal char '-' (0x2d) in: Release: 3.fc26-pending

2016-12-14 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > Any idea on why this happens when attempting to build in rawhide? Is > the buildroot broken? You need to update fedpkg/pyrpkg. > > $ fedpkg build > error: line 6: Illegal char '-' (0x2d) in: Release: 3.fc26-pending > error: query o

rawhide: Illegal char '-' (0x2d) in: Release: 3.fc26-pending

2016-12-14 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
Any idea on why this happens when attempting to build in rawhide? Is the buildroot broken? $ fedpkg build error: line 6: Illegal char '-' (0x2d) in: Release: 3.fc26-pending error: query of specfile /home/.../fedora/gnutls/gnutls.spec failed, can't parse The line in question has: Release: 3%{?dist

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Petr Mensik
That sounds like way to use (sort of) certificates again. With updated realmd package I can now save fedora account password into Gnome keyring. But... I thought about it yesterday, but did not dare to ask. Are not password less strong kind of authentication that keys? We have SSH keys, we had g

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On ke, 14 joulu 2016, Petr Spacek wrote: On 13.12.2016 22:57, Tom Hughes wrote: On 13/12/16 21:32, Simo Sorce wrote: On Tue, 2016-12-13 at 18:52 +, Tom Hughes wrote: The main goal of long random passwords after all is about a combination of making them hard to brute force and ensuring tha

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-14 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On ti, 13 joulu 2016, David Woodhouse wrote: On Sun, 2016-12-11 at 18:34 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: All package maintainers will want to make sure they have updated to the  following package versions (some may be in testing as of this email):  python-cccolutils-1.4-1  fedpkg-1.26-2   

Re: CVE-2016-8655, systemd, and Fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:08:33AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > The original RFCs for IPv6 mandated support for IPsec, but that's no > > longer required as of RFC 6434. Nothing else popped out at me as > > necessary for IPv6, but it's probably a moot point given XFRM. > > IPv6 people argue th

Re: CVE-2016-8655, systemd, and Fedora

2016-12-14 Thread Florian Weimer
On 12/14/2016 07:44 AM, Scott Schmit wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 05:54:54PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: On 12/13/2016 12:17 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 12.12.16 21:22, Paul Wouters (p...@nohats.ca) wrote: For us (libreswan) it probably makes less sense to restrict address family