Re: jwm

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 06/01/2016 05:34 PM, Bernardo Sulzbach wrote: > > On 06/01/2016 06:21 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > > So the answer to your question is that the papers say they work 40 hours > per week, but in reality they work more. The employment la

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > 4. > [chris@f24m ~]$ sudo btrfs scrub status / > [sudo] password for chris: > scrub status for dbf2e938-1f28-4e93-aa6c-1e193004931b > scrub started at Fri Jun 3 20:38:15 2016, interrupted after > 00:00:05, not running > total bytes sc

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > Is it/should it be true that any 'sudo' process is privileged and > automatically is put into a session that would not be killed by the > user logging out? So if they user starts some background process with > sudo, they can log out of their D

[Test-Announce] 2016-06-06 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2016-06-06 # Time: 15:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! It's meeting time again on Monday! We haven't met for a while, and we're at the end of the F24 cycle

[Test-Announce] 2016-06-06 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 24 Blocker Review

# F24 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2016-06-06 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net Hi folks! We currently have 3 proposed Final blockers and 12 proposed Final freeze exceptions to review (these numbers may change with in-bug votes over the weekend). There are

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > In all of these cases you really want to make sure that whatever the > user did ends – really ends – by the time he logs out. So that the > employee can't do stuff there except when logged in, and that he can't > do stuff there even long

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

Björn Persson writes: If that's the case, then can we please stop talking about security and instead debate the usability aspects of this change? Agreed. But if someone still wishes to argue that this is some kind of a security feature, I'll be delighted to continue this discussion. pgp

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

Lennart Poettering writes: On Thu, 02.06.16 18:00, Sam Varshavchik (mr...@courier-mta.com) wrote: > If an unprivileged program, like tmux, or screen, or nohup, can do whatever > dbus/ibus thingy it needs to do in order to elevate itself to a new > "session", and make arrangements to prevent its

Re: Call for F24 Final blocker / FE votes

On Fri, 2016-06-03 at 13:45 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! We currently have quite a backlog of proposed blocker bugs > for F24. Unfortunately I forgot to schedule a special blocker meeting > for yesterday or today, so we don't have one till Monday. To help > clarify the F24 situation it

Call for F24 Final blocker / FE votes

Hi folks! We currently have quite a backlog of proposed blocker bugs for F24. Unfortunately I forgot to schedule a special blocker meeting for yesterday or today, so we don't have one till Monday. To help clarify the F24 situation it'd be great if folks could vote in-bug for all the proposed blocke

Re: Hadoop?

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:33 PM Christopher wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:38 AM gil wrote: > >> >> >> Il 03/06/2016 13:20, Christopher ha scritto: >> > I also tried to unretire in pkgdb, but it resulted in an error. >> have you open a rel-eng ticket as suggested before? >> regards >> .g >> --

Re: Hadoop?

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:38 AM gil wrote: > > > Il 03/06/2016 13:20, Christopher ha scritto: > > I also tried to unretire in pkgdb, but it resulted in an error. > have you open a rel-eng ticket as suggested before? > regards > .g > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https:/

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 01:44:46AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Set DefaultTimeoutStartSec= in /etc/systemd/systemd.conf. (Note typo: /etc/systemd/system.conf, with no d in the filename.) FWIW, the default is 90s -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader -- devel mailing list deve

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

Is it/should it be true that any 'sudo' process is privileged and automatically is put into a session that would not be killed by the user logging out? So if they user starts some background process with sudo, they can log out of their DE session and that process continues to run? Chris Murphy --

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2016-06-03)

=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2016-06-03) === Meeting started by kalev at 16:00:13 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-06-03/fesco.2016-06-03-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary ---

Re: F25 Self Contained Change: Release Engineering Automation Workflow Engine

Il 03 giu 2016 18:48, "Adam Williamson" > YAAAY LOL -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F25 Self Contained Change: Release Engineering Automation Workflow Engine

On Fri, 2016-06-03 at 17:59 +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > = Proposed Self Contained Change: Release Engineering Automation > Workflow Engine = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReleaseEngineeringAutomationWorkflowEngine YAAAY -- Adam Williamson

F25 Self Contained Change: Fedora Scale-Out Docker Registry

= Proposed Self Contained Change: Fedora Scale-Out Docker Registry = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraDockerRegistry Change owner(s): * Adam Miller This is a proposal for a change to the Fedora Infrastructure and Fedora Release Engineering tooling to provide a scalable Docker Registr

F25 Self Contained Change: Release Engineering Automation Workflow Engine

= Proposed Self Contained Change: Release Engineering Automation Workflow Engine = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReleaseEngineeringAutomationWorkflowEngine Change owner(s): * Adam Miller Centralized entry point, logging, and dash board for pre-defined Automated Workflow tasks used by t

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 11:30:06AM -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > I use my computer for lots of automation like collecting weather and > Pepco powerline data, getting the book of the day, ebay sniping, etc. > They all run as either persistent processes or user cron jobs. I am > normally logge

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On 06/03/2016 01:33 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: ISTM there are two things that might be reasonably configured: 1. Is a given user permitted to create processes that persist beyond logout? 2. If a user may create processes that persist beyond logout, *which* processes persist beyond logout? I

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Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 03:30:33PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Thu, 02.06.16 18:00, Sam Varshavchik (mr...@courier-mta.com) wrote: > > > The rogue spambout in question can simply talk to systemd itself, and > > > arrange for it not to be killed when the user logs

Re: Retired solr, parquet, parquet-format

chm ... should I read it as I should retire rubygem-rsolr as well? Nothing depends on it in Fedora I guess. Vít Dne 2.6.2016 v 16:05 gil napsal(a): > hi > > i retired solr and parquet depend on hadoop that was retired > > parquet-format was used only by parquet > > regards > > .g > -- > devel

eseyman changed perl-sig's 'commit' permission on perl-Crypt-RandPasswd (master) to 'Removed'

eseyman changed perl-sig's 'commit' permission on perl-Crypt-RandPasswd (master) to 'Removed' https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/perl-Crypt-RandPasswd/ -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedorapro

Fedora 24-20160603.n.0 compose check report

Missing expected images: Workstation live i386 Cloud_base raw-xz i386 Workstation live x86_64 Failed openQA tests: 2/70 (x86_64), 2/16 (i386) ID: 20363 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_role_deploy_domain_controller URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/20363 ID: 20414 Test: x

Fedora Rawhide-20160603.n.0 compose check report

Missing expected images: Cloud_base raw-xz i386 Atomic raw-xz x86_64 Kde raw-xz armhfp Minimal raw-xz armhfp Failed openQA tests: 24/76 (x86_64), 8/17 (i386) ID: 20250 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default_upload URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/20250 ID: 20251

Fedora 24 compose report: 20160603.n.0 changes

OLD: Fedora-24-20160602.n.0 NEW: Fedora-24-20160603.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:9 Dropped images: 4 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:3 Upgraded packages: 0 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0.00 B Size of dropped packages:9.15 MiB Size of

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 02.06.16 18:00, Sam Varshavchik (mr...@courier-mta.com) wrote: > > The rogue spambout in question can simply talk to systemd itself, and > > arrange for it not to be killed when the user logs out. > > Yes, the default policy we ship is friendly, and > says that

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 11:28:42AM +0300, Oron Peled wrote: > On Thursday 02 June 2016 14:38:38 Matthias Clasen wrote: > > I think the discussion is starting to go in circles. It is pretty clear > > that we have different opinions about the desired behavior of logout. > > I'll take this as an oppo

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Thu, 02.06.16 18:00, Sam Varshavchik (mr...@courier-mta.com) wrote: > If an unprivileged program, like tmux, or screen, or nohup, can do whatever > dbus/ibus thingy it needs to do in order to elevate itself to a new > "session", and make arrangements to prevent itself from getting nuked from >

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Thu, 02.06.16 14:19, Paul Wouters (p...@nohats.ca) wrote: > > > On Jun 1, 2016, at 09:48, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > Any scheme that relies on unprivileged programs "being nice" doesn't > > fix the inherent security problem: after logout a user should not be > > able consume further ru

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20160603.n.0 changes

OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20160601.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20160603.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:2 Dropped images: 4 Added packages: 2 Dropped packages:5 Upgraded packages: 202 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 100.95 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: Hadoop?

Il 03/06/2016 13:20, Christopher ha scritto: I also tried to unretire in pkgdb, but it resulted in an error. have you open a rel-eng ticket as suggested before? regards .g -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: Hadoop?

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 1:35 AM Till Maas wrote: > On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 02:25:19AM +, Christopher wrote: > > > Ugh. Wish I had noticed. Is there a quick way to get it unretired? It's > > still an essential dependency of some packages which are not retired, or > > even orphaned. > > I tried

Broken dependencies: perl-Algorithm-Permute

perl-Algorithm-Permute has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Algorithm-Permute-0.12-21.fc24.x86_64 requires libperl.so.5.22()(64bit) perl-Algorithm-Permute-0.12-21.fc24.x86_64 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.22.1) On i386: perl-Algorithm-Permute-0.1

aesh license changes

Hi aesh package changes from EPL to ASL 2.0 regards .g -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fedora retirement guidelines

> But I just had a user bitten by a change in behaviour between dnf and yum > that was discovered here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1096506 > The Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1096506 has a high priority in DNF team and we hope that it will be fixed soon.

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

On Thursday 02 June 2016 14:38:38 Matthias Clasen wrote: > I think the discussion is starting to go in circles. It is pretty clear > that we have different opinions about the desired behavior of logout. I'll take this as an opportunity to raise a separate issue. The current implementation has onl

Re: Hadoop?

Il 03/06/2016 04:25, Christopher ha scritto: On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:33 PM gil > wrote: Il 02/06/2016 23:20, Chris Murphy ha scritto: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Christopher wrote: >> So, it would seem at some point, without me noticing (cer