Re: Unannounced soname bump: libpsl

2016-02-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 2:19 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2016-02-01 at 15:02 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz > > wrote: >> > On 2016-02-01 07:45, Adam Williamson wrote: >> > > Hi, folks. Looks like there was an unannounced soname bump in >> >

Re: Unannounced soname bump: libpsl

2016-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2016-02-01 at 15:02 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz > wrote: > > On 2016-02-01 07:45, Adam Williamson wrote: > > >  Hi, folks. Looks like there was an unannounced soname bump in > > > Rawhide > > > today: libpsl.so.0 -> libpsl.so.5, in package

Re: qt (4) no longer injects $RPM_OPT_FLAGS by default (on f24+)

2016-02-01 Thread Tom Hughes
On 02/02/16 07:00, Michael J Gruber wrote: Rex Dieter venit, vidit, dixit 18.01.2016 15:00: In response to recent additions to default $RPM_OPT_FLAGS that depend on redhat-rpm-config to be present, and in response to bug http://bugzilla.redhat.com/1279265 Qt4's qmake will no longer inject $RPM_

Re: qt (4) no longer injects $RPM_OPT_FLAGS by default (on f24+)

2016-02-01 Thread Michael J Gruber
Rex Dieter venit, vidit, dixit 18.01.2016 15:00: > In response to recent additions to default $RPM_OPT_FLAGS that depend on > redhat-rpm-config to be present, and in response to bug > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/1279265 > > Qt4's qmake will no longer inject $RPM_OPT_FLAGS any more, starting with

RE: Unannounced soname bump: libpsl

2016-02-01 Thread John Dulaney
> > This is the hazard of using %{_libdir}/*.so.* in %files. Is there any > reason why such a syntax should NOT be formally discouraged in the > packaging guidelines? > It hasn't been actively discouraged, and I have, in fact seen it encouraged during packa

Re: Needless use of %defattr (in 4464 packages)

2016-02-01 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "RC" == Remi Collet writes: RC> Please, don't change any of my packages. Could you perhaps explain your definition of "my" in that sentence? I'm kind of curious as to why someone might think that any package is the distribution is "theirs" as opposed to "Fedora's". - J< -- devel mailing

Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2016-02-01)

2016-02-01 Thread opensource
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If y

Orphaned Packages in epel5 (2016-02-01)

2016-02-01 Thread opensource
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If y

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* Howard Chu: > 5) BerkeleyDB lives under a licensing cloud. Since 2008 Oracle > lawyers were contacting commercial OpenLDAP users and demanding > license fees from them, even though BerkeleyDB is expressly licensed > for free use in open source software (such as OpenLDAP). At least the new licen

Re: Unannounced soname bump: libpsl

2016-02-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > On 2016-02-01 07:45, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> Hi, folks. Looks like there was an unannounced soname bump in Rawhide >> today: libpsl.so.0 -> libpsl.so.5, in package libpsl. Looks like the >> only other package using that lib is wget, so

Re: Unannounced soname bump: libpsl

2016-02-01 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2016-02-01 07:45, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi, folks. Looks like there was an unannounced soname bump in Rawhide today: libpsl.so.0 -> libpsl.so.5, in package libpsl. Looks like the only other package using that lib is wget, so that needs rebuilding. I'll try a straight rebuild, if that doesn't

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Howard Chu
Chris Adams cmadams.net> writes: > > Once upon a time, Neal Gompa gmail.com> said: > > My understanding of the problem is that it's less about the "doubts > > about its future" and more about the fact Oracle inexplicably changed > > the license with BDB 6.x to AGPLv3. Berkley DB 5.3 is old, and

[POC-change] Fedora packages point of contact updates

2016-02-01 Thread nobody
Change in package status over the last 168 hours 11 packages were orphaned - d-feet [el6] was orphaned by kevin A powerful D-Bus Debugger https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/d-feet edsadmin [f23, f22, mast

Re: intent to retire Scratch

2016-02-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 12:45:30AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > I don't think working software (even if not perfect, but what software is?) > should be dropped from the distribution like that, ESPECIALLY for software > like this that involves user data (programs in this case). You should at > le

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said: > My understanding of the problem is that it's less about the "doubts > about its future" and more about the fact Oracle inexplicably changed > the license with BDB 6.x to AGPLv3. Berkley DB 5.3 is old, and no one > has forked it and maintained it. To me, it see

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Florian Weimer
On 02/01/2016 02:55 PM, Petr Spacek wrote: > For the wider audience, some more information about LMDB backend for RPM can > be found in: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1086784 > > In short: > - Maximum database size is just "sanity limit" set by application. It can be > hunderds of

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Petr Spacek
On 1.2.2016 12:05, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 01/31/2016 04:17 PM, Jonathan Underwood wrote: >> On 29 Jan 2016 10:03 pm, "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: >>> >>> >>> FWIW I found the new database backend (not mentioned anywhere in the >>> original submission). It is here: >>> >>> http://rpm.org/gitw

Re: Fedora Rawhide 20160201 compose check report

2016-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2016-02-01 at 14:40 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2016-02-01 at 12:39 +, Fedora compose checker wrote: > > Missing expected images: > > > > Cloud disk raw i386 > > Cloud_atomic disk raw x86_64 > > Generic boot x86_64 > > Workstation live x86_64 > > Workstation live i386 > > G

Unannounced soname bump: libpsl

2016-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi, folks. Looks like there was an unannounced soname bump in Rawhide today: libpsl.so.0 -> libpsl.so.5, in package libpsl. Looks like the only other package using that lib is wget, so that needs rebuilding. I'll try a straight rebuild, if that doesn't work I'll contact the maintainer. -- Adam Wil

Re: Fedora Rawhide 20160201 compose check report

2016-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2016-02-01 at 12:39 +, Fedora compose checker wrote: > Missing expected images: > > Cloud disk raw i386 > Cloud_atomic disk raw x86_64 > Generic boot x86_64 > Workstation live x86_64 > Workstation live i386 > Generic boot i386 > Kde disk raw armhfp > Cloud disk raw x86_64 Looks like a

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Jan Zelený
On 1. 2. 2016 at 12:14:18, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 12:51:47PM +0100, Jan Zelený wrote: > > On 1. 2. 2016 at 09:59:23, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 09:44:29AM +0100, Jan Zelený wrote: > > > > On 29. 1. 2016 at 22:03:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:

Fedora Rawhide 20160201 compose check report

2016-02-01 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Cloud disk raw i386 Cloud_atomic disk raw x86_64 Generic boot x86_64 Workstation live x86_64 Workstation live i386 Generic boot i386 Kde disk raw armhfp Cloud disk raw x86_64 No images in this compose but not Rawhide 20160131 Images in Rawhide 20160131 but not this: Sec

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 12:51:47PM +0100, Jan Zelený wrote: > On 1. 2. 2016 at 09:59:23, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 09:44:29AM +0100, Jan Zelený wrote: > > > On 29. 1. 2016 at 22:03:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > > FWIW I found the new database backend (not mentioned

Re: intent to retire Scratch

2016-02-01 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On 29 January 2016 at 18:51, Matthew Miller wrote: > Several years ago, I packaged up Scratch 1.4 -- the visual programming > language for kids. However, it never really worked perfectly (it's not > 64 bit clean) and upstream for this line is dead (as Scratch 2.0 is > based on Adobe Air -- and hop

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Jan Zelený
On 1. 2. 2016 at 09:59:23, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 09:44:29AM +0100, Jan Zelený wrote: > > On 29. 1. 2016 at 22:03:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > FWIW I found the new database backend (not mentioned anywhere in the > > > > > > original submission). It is here: > >

Re: Should rpmlint warn about misleading indentation?

2016-02-01 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > > Insisting that feature requests provide an implementation is a good > way to ensure nobody bothers asking for improvements to a tool. And encouraging filing RFE's for which there is no implementor resources in sight is a good way to frust

Re: Needless use of %defattr (in 4464 packages)

2016-02-01 Thread Petr Šabata
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 02:30:36PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:36:24PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 04:34:55PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > perl-Affix-Infix2Postfix (steve, psabata) > > perl-Algorithm-IncludeExclude (iarn

Re: Should rpmlint warn about misleading indentation?

2016-02-01 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 30/01/16 09:54 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: I've seen a few spec files with content like this: %configure --disable-static --with-imagemagick --with-magickpp \ --without-libavcodec CPPFLAGS='-DMagickLib=MagickCore -I/usr/i

Re: intent to retire Scratch

2016-02-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 10:26:13AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > I still use this program. And it has no glitches on 32 arch. Until there is > new open source version of Scratch or > someone package Snap! (and add there some costumes and backgrounds) then the > Scratch is still the best tool. >

Fedora directions and priorities in 2016 (council-discuss thread)

2016-02-01 Thread Matthew Miller
Hey all! I posted this over on the Fedora Council Discus list, but it's really relevant across the project. Rather than splitting into a bunch of crazy cross-posts, I'd love to hear your input at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-disc...@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/B6XWQTXIA

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Florian Weimer
On 01/31/2016 04:17 PM, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > On 29 Jan 2016 10:03 pm, "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: >> >> >> FWIW I found the new database backend (not mentioned anywhere in the >> original submission). It is here: >> >> http://rpm.org/gitweb?p=rpm.git;a=tree;f=lib/backend/ndb >> >> Since

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Florian Weimer
On 02/01/2016 11:43 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 11:39:33AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: >> On 02/01/2016 11:26 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 11:13:08AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: On 02/01/2016 10:59 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >>

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 11:39:33AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 02/01/2016 11:26 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 11:13:08AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> On 02/01/2016 10:59 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >> > >>> Even if the RPM database is only accessed via lib

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Florian Weimer
On 02/01/2016 11:26 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 11:13:08AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: >> On 02/01/2016 10:59 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> >>> Even if the RPM database is only accessed via librpm, it's still >>> important that the most central database present on ev

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 10:26:34AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 11:13:08AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > On 02/01/2016 10:59 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > > > Even if the RPM database is only accessed via librpm, it's still > > > important that the most centr

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 11:13:08AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 02/01/2016 10:59 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > Even if the RPM database is only accessed via librpm, it's still > > important that the most central database present on every Fedora > > system is reliable, well-tested and fl

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Florian Weimer
On 02/01/2016 10:59 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Even if the RPM database is only accessed via librpm, it's still > important that the most central database present on every Fedora > system is reliable, well-tested and flexible. Sqlite is a highly > regarded piece of software, which runs on bi

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 09:44:29AM +0100, Jan Zelený wrote: > On 29. 1. 2016 at 22:03:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > FWIW I found the new database backend (not mentioned anywhere in the > > original submission). It is here: > > > > http://rpm.org/gitweb?p=rpm.git;a=tree;f=lib/backend/ndb > >

Re: intent to retire Scratch

2016-02-01 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 29.1.2016 v 19:51 Matthew Miller napsal(a): > I'd like to let go of ownership of the package, and unless someone else > really wants to invest time into it, I think retiring it completely is > the way to go. I still use this program. And it has no glitches on 32 arch. Until there is new open

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-02-01 Thread Jan Zelený
On 29. 1. 2016 at 22:03:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > FWIW I found the new database backend (not mentioned anywhere in the > original submission). It is here: > > http://rpm.org/gitweb?p=rpm.git;a=tree;f=lib/backend/ndb > > Since this change has (rashly) been approved by FESCO, I guess we're