Re: grub2 wiki page

2015-09-21 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On Mon, 2015-09-21 at 19:20 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > 2. Also under "install the bootloader files" it lists the shim > package, but this should be shim-signed in order to include the > shim.efi that's been signed by the Microsoft signing service. The shim > package only contains an unsigned shim

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread Rex Dieter
Thomas Daede wrote: > Um, that bug looks totally unrelated to the problems reported here. It was referenced in the first post of this thread. :) -- Rex > On 09/21/2015 06:51 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Rex Dieter wrote: >> >>> Germano Massullo wrote: >>> Il 21/09/2015 21:45, Thomas Daede ha

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread kendell clark
hi Not to go off topic, but I keep hearing comparisons between linux and windows in this regard. I haven't used windows in ages, but how does windows avoid this problem, or does it? Maybe we could do something similar to what they do? I still say pulse audio needs to fix this, and keep it fixed. It

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2015-09-21 at 17:46 -0700, Thomas Daede wrote: > In the case of Youtube, you shouldn't be having any issues because > Mozilla switched to using a soft mixer internal to Firefox: > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1046814 > > If you still have issues, you should report them u

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread Thomas Daede
Um, that bug looks totally unrelated to the problems reported here. On 09/21/2015 06:51 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Germano Massullo wrote: >> >>> Il 21/09/2015 21:45, Thomas Daede ha scritto: Is there currently a bug open for this? I'd rather it not get lost. >>> I think

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread Rex Dieter
Rex Dieter wrote: > Germano Massullo wrote: > >> Il 21/09/2015 21:45, Thomas Daede ha scritto: >>> Is there currently a bug open for this? I'd rather it not get lost. >> I think that a FESCo ticket would be more appropriate. > > I think it would be premature to appeal to FESCo without giving pul

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread Rex Dieter
Germano Massullo wrote: > Il 21/09/2015 21:45, Thomas Daede ha scritto: >> Is there currently a bug open for this? I'd rather it not get lost. > I think that a FESCo ticket would be more appropriate. I think it would be premature to appeal to FESCo without giving pulseaudio maintainers a chance

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 03:39:46PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: >> It's worth pointing out that your griping about grub2 "growth" seems >> misleading. The sizes of the grub2 packages did not change between >> F22 and F23. What seems to have ha

grub2 wiki page

2015-09-21 Thread Chris Murphy
Can someone double check this before I make the change? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2 1. Under "Install the bootloader files" grub2-efi-modules shouldn't be listed. An unsuspecting user who then uses grub2-install as they once did on BIOS systems will blow away the signed grubx64.efi fi

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread Thomas Daede
In the case of Youtube, you shouldn't be having any issues because Mozilla switched to using a soft mixer internal to Firefox: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1046814 If you still have issues, you should report them upstream. (note that this means all website volume sliders are desi

OpenMesh soname bump in rawhide

2015-09-21 Thread Susi Lehtola
Hi, I'm updating OpenMesh in rawhide to version 4.1, which bumps the soname. Only IQmol seems to use OpenMesh, which I'm rebuilding soon after. -- Susi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproj

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2015-09-21 at 18:00 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > There is danger to the ears if an application assumes that 100% > volume > is a safe volume and blindly sets its volume to 100% without user > input. But that only affects that application - one application's > misbehavior never affects anothe

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015, Owen Taylor wrote: Experimenting with GNOME, the model presented to the user seems to be:  - Each application's volume control separate goes from 0-100% of the    maximum system volume.   - Adjusting each application is independent  - Modifying the system global volume slid

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread kendell clark
hi I don't know, but if there's not, I'll go file one and post the link here. Thanks Kendell clark On 09/21/2015 02:45 PM, Thomas Daede wrote: > Is there currently a bug open for this? I'd rather it not get lost. > > On 09/17/2015 11:59 AM, Germano Massullo wrote: >> === >> Definition of fla

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread Thomas Daede
OK, here's a couple of counterexamples, still using default apps: - I start chatting on Firefox with WebRTC and I can't hear the person talking over my music. So I open the GNOME control center and make Firefox louder. Pulseaudio is awesome. But now, the volume of all of my other applications is p

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread Owen Taylor
On Thu, 2015-09-17 at 23:26 +0200, Germano Massullo wrote: > Il 17/09/2015 21:13, Andrew Lutomirski ha scritto: > > > > To clarify: did you get blasted by music or by video conference > > sounds?  If the music volume got louder, then it sounds like either > > a > > straight-up bug in PulseAudio (a

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 03:39:46PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > It's worth pointing out that your griping about grub2 "growth" seems > misleading. The sizes of the grub2 packages did not change between > F22 and F23. What seems to have happened is that the cloud images > added the grub2 packages, w

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread Germano Massullo
Il 21/09/2015 21:45, Thomas Daede ha scritto: > Is there currently a bug open for this? I'd rather it not get lost. I think that a FESCo ticket would be more appropriate. I will open it during next days. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/l

Fedora 23 Branched 20150921 compose check report

2015-09-21 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. No images in this compose but not 23 Branched 20150920 No images in 23 Branched 20150920 but not this. Failed openQA tests: 8 of 52 ID: 3219Test: x86_64 kde_live default_install ID: 3218Test: i386 kde_live default_install ID: 3208Test: i386 un

Fedora Rawhide 20150921 compose check report

2015-09-21 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Images in this compose but not Rawhide 20150920: Cloud_atomic vagrant virtualbox x86_64 Cloud_atomic vagrant libvirt x86_64 No images in Rawhide 20150920 but not this. Failed openQA tests: 49 of 52 ID: 3225Test: x86_64 universal server_btrfs ID: 3223

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread Thomas Daede
Is there currently a bug open for this? I'd rather it not get lost. On 09/17/2015 11:59 AM, Germano Massullo wrote: > === > Definition of flat-volumes from [1] : it scales the device-volume with > the volume of the "loudest" application. For example, raising the VoIP > call volume will raise t

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-21 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Fedora-Cloud-Base-20141203-21.x86_64.qcow2: 151M > Fedora-Cloud-Base-23_Beta-20150915.x86_64.qcow2: 275M > > In just one year — 82% more awesome? > > I'd really like this to stay below 200MB as a competitive threshold. > Or, if we're

Re: Fedora Rawhide glibc-2.22.90-6.fc24 shipping C.UTF-8 locale.

2015-09-21 Thread DAVID Clément
Hello Carlos, Thank you very much for such an advancement. This feature will allow any software to fallback on a fully internationalized locale. -- Clément David A non ASCII user Le 18 sept. 2015 07:06, "Carlos O'Donell" a écrit : > Thanks to some great work by Mike FABIAN the Rawhide glibc is

[Test-Announce] 2015-09-21 @ 1600 UTC ** [Moved] F23 Blocker Review

2015-09-21 Thread Mike Ruckman
Well, it appears that Bugzilla is currently experiencing some issues, so we had to move today's blocker review to tomorrow. Providing that Bugzilla is up and working by 1600 UTC tomorrow (2015-09-22), we'll be having the blocker review then. Thanks! -- // Mike -- Fedora QA freenode: roshi http:

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-21 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 21/09/15 16:07, Matthew Miller wrote: > Fedora-Cloud-Base-20141203-21.x86_64.qcow2: 151M > Fedora-Cloud-Base-23_Beta-20150915.x86_64.qcow2: 275M > > In just one year — 82% more awesome? > > I'd really like this to stay below 200MB as a competitive threshold. > Or, if we're going to b

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-21 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:07:40AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > Okay, let's look on disk: > > > [f21]$ sudo du -sh * 2>/dev/null|sort -h > [...] > 36K home > 40K root > 228Krun > 21M boot > 22M etc > 34M var > 276Musr I find that KDE filelight (also GNOME baob

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 05:11:24PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >5423400 xkeyboard-config # really looks like a systemd dep chain > >involving plymouth > plymouth luckily is no hard dependency for anything "Involving plymouth" might have been wrong. libxkbcommon.so.0 looks like a direct depe

Re: [Test-Announce] Cloud Atomic Test Day: 2015-09-22 - CORRECTION: #atomic not #fedora-test-day

2015-09-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2015-09-20 at 22:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! Just to let everyone know, we have another Test Day coming > up on Tuesday 2015-09-22, Cloud Atomic Test Day [1]. The wiki page > isn't up yet but should be soon. This will be a combined event with > the fine folks over at CentOS

[POC-change] Fedora packages point of contact updates

2015-09-21 Thread nobody
Change in package status over the last 168 hours 5 packages were orphaned prototype [f23, f22, f21, master, el6, epel7, el5] was orphaned by remi JavaScript framework https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/p

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.09.2015 um 17:07 schrieb Matthew Miller: 5423400 xkeyboard-config # really looks like a systemd dep chain involving plymouth plymouth luckily is no hard dependency for anything [root@rawhide ~]# rpm -qa | grep keyboard xkeyboard-config-2.15-2.fc23.noarch [root@rawhide ~]# rpm -qa

jplesnik uploaded Devel-Cover-1.21.tar.gz for perl-Devel-Cover

2015-09-21 Thread notifications
c747fe984f7e945a4cbe11ad727ebc52 Devel-Cover-1.21.tar.gz http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/lookaside/pkgs/perl-Devel-Cover/Devel-Cover-1.21.tar.gz/md5/c747fe984f7e945a4cbe11ad727ebc52/Devel-Cover-1.21.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-dev

Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-21 Thread Matthew Miller
Fedora-Cloud-Base-20141203-21.x86_64.qcow2: 151M Fedora-Cloud-Base-23_Beta-20150915.x86_64.qcow2: 275M In just one year — 82% more awesome? I'd really like this to stay below 200MB as a competitive threshold. Or, if we're going to be bigger than that, be bigger for REASONS, not just acc

Re: Kernel model convert to loadable module

2015-09-21 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 01:16:10PM +0200, Anteja Vuk Macek wrote: > Hi, > I work with Timesys Fedora 18 Remix and I want to convent kernel module in > loadable module ( i2c-gpio.o in i2c-gpio.ko ). What I need to do ? Hi, you generally come to wrong place with this question. First of all, F

Re: redhat bugzilla probs

2015-09-21 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
People are already looking into it. Standby On Mon 21 Sep 2015 03:49:03 PM CEST Sandro Bonazzola wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> When trying to file a BZ, bugzilla just greeter me with this: >> >> >> Proxy Error >> >> The proxy server received an i

Re: redhat bugzilla probs

2015-09-21 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Hi, > > When trying to file a BZ, bugzilla just greeter me with this: > > > Proxy Error > > The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. > The proxy server could not handle the request POST /post_bug.cgi. > > Reas

Re: Self Introduction: Marco Driusso

2015-09-21 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Marco Driusso wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm Marco Driusso. I'm a PhD student in communications engineering in > University of Trieste, north east of Italy. > Welcome! > > I've just sent a review request for a package of IT++, a nice C++ library > widely used in rese

redhat bugzilla probs

2015-09-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, When trying to file a BZ, bugzilla just greeter me with this: Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request POST /post_bug.cgi. Reason: Error reading from remote server Apache Server at bugzilla.redhat.com

Re: llvm 3.7 for rawhide and then f23

2015-09-21 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sun, 2015-09-20 at 21:00 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > On 9/20/15, David Airlie wrote: > > It's llvm, there is never a good time to upgrade it and no llvm release is > > backwards compatible. > > Yes, so unless someone is pretty familiar with LLVM upstream, keep > reading every changeset, n

Re: Self Introduction: David Muse

2015-09-21 Thread gil
hi welcome regards gil Il 10/09/2015 20:03, David Muse ha scritto: Hello all, My name is David Muse. I'm the lead developer of the SQL Relay database connection management system (http://sqlrelay.sourceforge.net) as well as several other software projects (http://www.firstworks.com). I've

Re: Self Introduction: Marco Driusso

2015-09-21 Thread gil
hi welcome regards gil Il 20/09/2015 20:45, Marco Driusso ha scritto: Hi all, I'm Marco Driusso. I'm a PhD student in communications engineering in University of Trieste, north east of Italy. I've just sent a review request for a package of IT++, a nice C++ library widely used in research in

Re: DNF's CI moved to Copr

2015-09-21 Thread Fabian Deutsch
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Radek Holy wrote: > Hello, > > thanks to the Copr's new ability to upload SRPMs directly, we have improved > DNF's continuous integration process a lot. If you are interested in how we > do that or if you would like to use/test our nightly builds [1], take a look

DNF's CI moved to Copr

2015-09-21 Thread Radek Holy
Hello, thanks to the Copr's new ability to upload SRPMs directly, we have improved DNF's continuous integration process a lot. If you are interested in how we do that or if you would like to use/test our nightly builds [1], take a look at http://dnf.baseurl.org/2015/09/21/ci-moved-to-copr/ or j

F-23 Branched report: 20150921 changes

2015-09-21 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Mon Sep 21 07:15:03 UTC 2015 Broken deps for armhfp -- [apache-scout] apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:uddi-ws) apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-21 Thread Dave Love
Florian Weimer writes: > I think it is important to keep the LD_PRELOAD case separate from > implicit interposition between the main program (if linked with -E) and > DSOs or between different DSOs. LD_PRELOAD is quite explicit in what it > wants to do. OK. (I probably don't understand properl

Re: llvm 3.7 for rawhide and then f23

2015-09-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: > > Given that we are now post-Beta for F23, it seems a little late in the > > cycle to be introducing a new llvm runtime. Is it guaranteed to be > > backwards-compatible? > > OTOH, having OpenGL 4 support in Fedora 23 (at least for certain card

Orphaned Packages in branched (2015-09-21)

2015-09-21 Thread opensource
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If y

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread kendell clark
hi Yup, I've seen all these use cases. TBH, this really should be handled in pulse audio. IE this isn't so much a problem of gnome, although I do agree taht they should make app volumes easier to set, as it is a pulse audio problem. Pulse audio should be smart enough to handle such use cases and ad

Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2015-09-21)

2015-09-21 Thread opensource
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If y

rawhide report: 20150921 changes

2015-09-21 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Sep 21 05:15:04 UTC 2015 Broken deps for i386 -- [IQmol] IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_serialization.so.1.58.0 IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_iostreams.so.1.58.0 [Macaulay2]

Kernel model convert to loadable module

2015-09-21 Thread Anteja Vuk Macek
Hi, I work with Timesys Fedora 18 Remix and I want to convent kernel module in loadable module ( i2c-gpio.o in i2c-gpio.ko ). What I need to do ? Best regards, Teja -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-21 Thread Kamil Paral
> Today I had a scary experience with the audio of my computer. > I was listening to music with Amarok, using my headphones... The KMix volume > level was ~ 35%. When I logged into a video conference application, the > volume suddenly reached the 100%. I was shocked, having the maximum audio > leve

Re: Trying to contact package maintainer for boinc-client

2015-09-21 Thread Germano Massullo
The actual BOINC working mantainer is Mattia Verga -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Trying to contact package maintainer for boinc-client

2015-09-21 Thread Laurence
Hi, As stated in the policy for non-responsive package maintainers, I am emailing this list to find out if anyone knows how to contact the package maintainer (Miloš Jakubíček) for the boinc-client? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1140826 Various people have tired but so far not b

GNOME 3.18.0 megaupdate

2015-09-21 Thread Kalev Lember
Hi all, GNOME 3.18.0 is going to be released this week and I'll be wrangling the builds for Fedora. Same as with the pre-releases we've built so far, we are still using the f23-gnome side tag in koji for preparing everything. If you are helping with builds, please use: $ fedpkg build --target f

Re: llvm 3.7 for rawhide and then f23

2015-09-21 Thread Kamil Paral
> Given that we are now post-Beta for F23, it seems a little late in the > cycle to be introducing a new llvm runtime. Is it guaranteed to be > backwards-compatible? OTOH, having OpenGL 4 support in Fedora 23 (at least for certain cards) is a strong marketing point. Personally I'm very much looki