Re: gpg keys of older/newer fedora versions

2015-08-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 11:43:19AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 08/05/2015 09:58 PM, Christopher Meng wrote: > >On 7/18/15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >>I thought I'd ask here first: is there a strong reason *not* to include > >>those keys? > > > >It's not recommended to encourage end

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-08-06 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "VS" == Ville Skyttä writes: VS> I have a bug report about the macros. Where should I file it, FPC VS> ticket or Bugzilla against the python* packages that ship the VS> affected macro files? Oops, I didn't see your mailing list post until well after I saw the ticket. Unfortunately this ki

Re: Self Introduction: Seth Jennings

2015-08-06 Thread Adam Miller
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Seth Jennings wrote: > Greetings! In acordance with the procedure for a first-time packager, > I'm annoucing on devel list :) > > I opened my first review request bug for yubioath-desktop, and GUI and > CLI for extracting OTP tokens from a Yubikey. > https://bugzil

[Test-Announce] Fedora 23 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting - the second round, Friday, August 07 @ 17:00 UTC

2015-08-06 Thread Jan Kurik
As on the Go/No-Go meeting organized today (2015-Aug-06) we agreed to postpone the final decision for one day [1], I would like to ask you to join us once more on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-2 wherein we shall finally determine the readiness of the Fedora 23 Alpha. Friday, August 07, 20

Re: Undefined %epoch problem (Re: rawhide report: 20150730 changes)

2015-08-06 Thread James Antill
On Thu, 2015-08-06 at 18:37 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 13:15:02 +, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > > We discussed with Jan Silhan yesterday. It looks like something broken in > > createrepo/createrepo_c in F22. So it's not dnf/yum/hawkey/libsolv issue. > > > > LOG: https://

Re: Undefined %epoch problem (Re: rawhide report: 20150730 changes)

2015-08-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 18:00:23 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > It couldn't find a comment in the source that would tell whether this > > is by design. > > Does this really matter? If it's by design, then the design is wrong. > If not, than the implementation is wrong. It doesn't matter

Self Introduction: Seth Jennings

2015-08-06 Thread Seth Jennings
Greetings! In acordance with the procedure for a first-time packager, I'm annoucing on devel list :) I opened my first review request bug for yubioath-desktop, and GUI and CLI for extracting OTP tokens from a Yubikey. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1251238 I work at Red Hat on one o

Re: gpg keys of older/newer fedora versions

2015-08-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 08/05/2015 09:58 PM, Christopher Meng wrote: On 7/18/15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: I thought I'd ask here first: is there a strong reason *not* to include those keys? It's not recommended to encourage end users installing EOL releases. I don't see how this affects people installi

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-08-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 10:03:00AM -0400, Robert Kuska wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Jason L Tibbitts III" > > To: devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:34:06 PM > > Subject: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines > > > > H

Re: Undefined %epoch problem (Re: rawhide report: 20150730 changes)

2015-08-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 06:37:29PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 13:15:02 +, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > > We discussed with Jan Silhan yesterday. It looks like something broken in > > createrepo/createrepo_c in F22. So it's not dnf/yum/hawkey/libsolv issue. > > > > LOG: h

Re: gpg keys of older/newer fedora versions

2015-08-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 12:58:36PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > On 7/18/15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > I thought I'd ask here first: is there a strong reason *not* to include > > those keys? > > It's not recommended to encourage end users installing EOL releases. > > However a se

Re: Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2015-08-06)

2015-08-06 Thread Honza Horak
Canceled, only phracek and me showed up.. Honza On 08/06/2015 07:07 PM, Honza Horak wrote: Meeting started at #fedora-meeting-1, we had collision at #fedora-meeting-2.. Honza On 08/06/2015 11:59 AM, Honza Horak wrote: WG meeting will be at 17:00 UTC (13:00 EST, 19:00 Brno, 13:00 Boston, 2:00+

Re: Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2015-08-06)

2015-08-06 Thread Honza Horak
Meeting started at #fedora-meeting-1, we had collision at #fedora-meeting-2.. Honza On 08/06/2015 11:59 AM, Honza Horak wrote: WG meeting will be at 17:00 UTC (13:00 EST, 19:00 Brno, 13:00 Boston, 2:00+1d Tokyo, 3:00+1d Brisbane) in #fedora-meeting-2 on Freenode. = Topics = * Fedora.next and

Re: Undefined %epoch problem (Re: rawhide report: 20150730 changes)

2015-08-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 13:15:02 +, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > We discussed with Jan Silhan yesterday. It looks like something broken in > createrepo/createrepo_c in F22. So it's not dnf/yum/hawkey/libsolv issue. > > LOG: https://ignatenkobrain.fedorapeople.org/epoch_bug.log > > Also CCing Jan. Wow

[Test-Announce] Fedora 23 Alpha Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Available Now!

2015-08-06 Thread Adam Williamson
Somewhat later than scheduled [1], Fedora 23 Alpha Release Candidate 2 (RC2) is now available for testing. Please help us complete as much of the validation testing as we can! Unfortunately there looks to already be a known blocker - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1250874 - but it wo

Re: Validity of i686 as a release blocker

2015-08-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 6 August 2015 at 10:04, Pete Travis wrote: > \ >> > > Perhaps the best approach, from a community perspective, would be to promote > a spin to Edition status and recommend *that* for i686 or low resource > desktop use cases. > > --Pete > That would require people volunteering to dedicate time

Re: Validity of i686 as a release blocker

2015-08-06 Thread Pete Travis
On Aug 4, 2015 9:40 AM, "Paul W. Frields" wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 09:47:27AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > [...snip...] > > Perhaps it is time that we evaluate where i686 stands in Fedora more > > closely. For a starting suggestion, I would recommend that we do not > > treat it as a relea

Re: Validity of i686 as a release blocker

2015-08-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 10:40:28 -0400, "Paul W. Frields" wrote: "Ambivalent" is probably understated here. It's hard to imagine people securing i686 hardware these days to run a Workstation experience, after all. I still use i686 for my primary server, primary desktop and primary laptop.

Re: Metadata signing for rawhide

2015-08-06 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Thursday, August 06, 2015 08:29:50 AM Rex Dieter wrote: > Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > What makes you think a site that is poisoning or abusing the metadata > > would not simply run "createrepo" and generate entirely new metadat > > But then it wouldn't match the metalink timestamps or checksum

Reminder: Fedora 23 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, August 06 @ 17:00 UTC

2015-08-06 Thread Jan Kurik
Just a reminder: Today we will meet to determine the readiness of the Fedora 23 Alpha. Please join us at 17:00 UTC (1 PM EDT, 10 AM PDT, 19:00 CEST) on fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net channel. [FedoCal] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/2629/ Thanks for joining, Jan - Orig

Reminder: Fedora 23 Alpha Release Readiness Meeting, Thursday, August 06 @ 19:00 UTC

2015-08-06 Thread Jan Kurik
Just a reminder: Today we will meet to make sure we are coordinated and ready for the Alpha release of Fedora 23. Please join us at 19:00 UTC (3 PM EDT, 12 AM PDT, 21:00 CEST) on fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net channel. [FedoCal] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/2630/ Thanks f

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-08-06 Thread Robert Kuska
- Original Message - > From: "Jason L Tibbitts III" > To: devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:34:06 PM > Subject: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines > > Here are the recent changes to the packaging guidelines. > > - > > Th

Re: Metadata signing for rawhide

2015-08-06 Thread Rex Dieter
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > What makes you think a site that is poisoning or abusing the metadata > would not simply run "createrepo" and generate entirely new metadat But then it wouldn't match the metalink timestamps or checksums, that Dennis mentioned either. Or am I missing something? -- Re

Re: Undefined %epoch problem (Re: rawhide report: 20150730 changes)

2015-08-06 Thread Igor Gnatenko
We discussed with Jan Silhan yesterday. It looks like something broken in createrepo/createrepo_c in F22. So it's not dnf/yum/hawkey/libsolv issue. LOG: https://ignatenkobrain.fedorapeople.org/epoch_bug.log Also CCing Jan. On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 4:03 PM Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 5 Aug

Re: Undefined %epoch problem (Re: rawhide report: 20150730 changes)

2015-08-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:26:38 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > There is a dnf repoclosure plugin, but not sure how well it works off > hand. It seems to be completely broken. :-( It reports lots of available shared libs as unresolved deps. -> https://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/tmp/f22-dnf-repoclosure

Re: Metadata signing for rawhide

2015-08-06 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Thursday, August 06, 2015 08:27:44 AM Neal Gompa wrote: >> In the rpm-ecosystem mailing list, Michael Schroeder from SUSE brought up >> that we don't sign the metadata for the rawhide repository >>

F-23 Branched report: 20150806 changes

2015-08-06 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Thu Aug 6 07:15:03 UTC 2015 Broken deps for armhfp -- [apache-scout] apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:uddi-ws) apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:

Re: Metadata signing for rawhide

2015-08-06 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Thursday, August 06, 2015 08:27:44 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > In the rpm-ecosystem mailing list, Michael Schroeder from SUSE brought up > that we don't sign the metadata for the rawhide repository > ml> and it would be ni

Metadata signing for rawhide

2015-08-06 Thread Neal Gompa
In the rpm-ecosystem mailing list, Michael Schroeder from SUSE brought up that we don't sign the metadata for the rawhide repository and it would be nice if it was signed so that he could be sure that the mirrors didn't

Re: [HEADS-UP] Please test kdbus in Rawhide!

2015-08-06 Thread Miroslav Grepl
On 08/06/2015 01:47 PM, Miroslav Grepl wrote: > On 07/31/2015 08:49 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> On Thu, 30.07.15 19:57, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: >> >>> Heya! >>> >>> I'd like to ask everybody to test kdbus on Rawhide. Josh thankfully >>> added it to the Rawhide kernel p

Re: [HEADS-UP] Please test kdbus in Rawhide!

2015-08-06 Thread Miroslav Grepl
On 07/31/2015 08:49 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 30.07.15 19:57, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: > >> Heya! >> >> I'd like to ask everybody to test kdbus on Rawhide. Josh thankfully >> added it to the Rawhide kernel packages, and our systemd RPMs come >> with built-in s

Re: Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2015-08-06)

2015-08-06 Thread Honza Horak
On 08/06/2015 11:59 AM, Honza Horak wrote: WG meeting will be at 17:00 UTC (13:00 EST, 19:00 Brno, 13:00 Boston, 2:00+1d Tokyo, 3:00+1d Brisbane) in #fedora-meeting-2 on Freenode. = Topics = * RHEL.next and how communicate between containers / stacks Of course it should be Fedora.next, sorry

Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2015-08-06)

2015-08-06 Thread Honza Horak
WG meeting will be at 17:00 UTC (13:00 EST, 19:00 Brno, 13:00 Boston, 2:00+1d Tokyo, 3:00+1d Brisbane) in #fedora-meeting-2 on Freenode. = Topics = * RHEL.next and how communicate between containers / stacks * Rings in Fedora 24 - documentation would be awesome * Taiga.io - could it be used to

Re: gpg keys of older/newer fedora versions

2015-08-06 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, Neal Gompa wrote: I disagree that including the keys for EOL'd releases counts as "encouraging" people to use old stuff. If someone has a reason to be building RPMs for something way-old, I think it'd be nice for us to keep those GPG keys available for them. Agreed. Paul -