Re: gpg keys of older/newer fedora versions

2015-08-05 Thread Christopher Meng
On 7/18/15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > I thought I'd ask here first: is there a strong reason *not* to include > those keys? It's not recommended to encourage end users installing EOL releases. However a seperate package for gpg keys from EOL releases is OK. But is it worthwhile to mo

[Test-Announce] Fedora 23 Release Notes are Open!

2015-08-05 Thread Pete Travis
Hello Fedora, The Fedora 22 release cycle is in full swing, and beats have been opened for the F22 Releasae Notes. Over the coming weeks, the release notes for the next version of Fedora will be assembled by Docs team writers, packageers, developers, and community members of all forms. Yeah, tha

Re: ncurses update to 6.0

2015-08-05 Thread Neal Gompa
On Aug 5, 2015 2:55 AM, "Miroslav Lichvar" wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 10:09:34AM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On 4 August 2015 at 04:33, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > > > As for updating the ncurses package, my current plan is to build the > > > libs in both ABIs (so there are four

Re: [HEADS UP] rpm-4.12.90 in rawhide

2015-08-05 Thread Kalev Lember
On 08/05/2015 10:02 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > As a test balloon, I've now added file triggers to gdk-pixbuf2-2.31.5 > -2.fc24, and librsvg2-2.40.9-3.fc24 now relies on them to get its > pixbuf loader registered. > > Let me know if you see any problems with those updates that might be > caused

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-08-05 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:11:26 +0300 > Ville Skyttä wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III >> wrote: >> > The big change is that the Python guidelines have been extensively >> > reorganized and partially rewritten, and

Re: [HEADS UP] rpm-4.12.90 in rawhide

2015-08-05 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2015-07-29 at 09:49 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 28.7.2015 v 18:15 Matthias Clasen napsal(a): > > On Tue, 2015-07-28 at 14:49 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > > > Just out of curiosity, do you have already any candidates for > > > File > > > Triggers? I suppose "/sbin/ldconfig" is one

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2015-08-06 16:00 UTC)

2015-08-05 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2015-08-06 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2015-08-06 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2015-08-06 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2015-08-06 1

Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2015-08-05)

2015-08-05 Thread Parag Nemade
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2015-08-05) === Meeting started by paragan at 18:00:09 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-08-05/fesco.2015-08-05-18.00.log.html . Meeting summary --

[Test-Announce] Fedora 23 Alpha Release Candidate 1 (RC1) (mostly) Available Now!

2015-08-05 Thread Adam Williamson
[sorry this is late, I sent it from the wrong email address :< RC2 will be landing in ~8 hours] Somewhat later than scheduled [1], Fedora 23 Alpha Release Candidate 1 (RC1) is now available for testing. Please help us complete as much of the validation testing as we can! We already know we'll nee

Re: Heads up: F23 products/spins, weak rpm dependencies, and you

2015-08-05 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 01:36:20 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 10:38:07AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > > > In Fedora 23, rpm has grown support for weak dependencies (Recommends: > > > and Suggests: tags). However, the

Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-08-05 Thread Josef Bacik
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > Hey all, > > Over the last few months (since Fedora 22 beta's release), I've been using > Btrfs as my daily driver filesystem across a multitude of machines. After > Fedora 22 released, I tried it with RAID 5 and RAID 6 enabled on a few > machi

Re: Heads up: F23 products/spins, weak rpm dependencies, and you

2015-08-05 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 01:36:20PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 10:38:07AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > > > In Fedora 23, rpm has grown support for weak dependencies (Recommends: > > > and Suggests: tags). However,

Re: Heads up: F23 products/spins, weak rpm dependencies, and you

2015-08-05 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, 2015-08-05 at 13:36 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > What keeps us from completing livemedia-creator Koji integration for > Fedora 23? And what of the state of pungi? > Time and resources. We don't have enough of either to do it in F23. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed me

Re: Heads up: F23 products/spins, weak rpm dependencies, and you

2015-08-05 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 10:38:07AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > > In Fedora 23, rpm has grown support for weak dependencies (Recommends: > > and Suggests: tags). However, the compose tools have not been ported to > > dnf/libsolv yet, which m

Re: Orphaning python-ufc

2015-08-05 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 05:45:59PM +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > Dear All, > > I have orphaned the python-ufc package. This package has been > superceded by python-ffc, and upstream have abandoned python-ufc. > FWIW, python-ffc is under review[0], but it seems the submission has > been abando

[HEADS UP] libappstream-glib update

2015-08-05 Thread Richard Hughes
Hi all, Next week I'm going to update to the new libappstream-glib with a soname bump in F23 and rawhide. The only deps (gnome-software and fwupd) just needs updating to the newest releases and these are my packages also. Any problems, please squeak. Richard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fed

Orphaning python-ufc

2015-08-05 Thread Jonathan Underwood
Dear All, I have orphaned the python-ufc package. This package has been superceded by python-ffc, and upstream have abandoned python-ufc. FWIW, python-ffc is under review[0], but it seems the submission has been abandoned by the submitter (Fabian Abfolter). I actually tried to retire this package

Re: Heads up: F23 products/spins, weak rpm dependencies, and you

2015-08-05 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 10:38:07AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > In Fedora 23, rpm has grown support for weak dependencies (Recommends: > and Suggests: tags). However, the compose tools have not been ported to > dnf/libsolv yet, which means these tags will have no effect at image > compose time. To

Re: Undefined %epoch problem (Re: rawhide report: 20150730 changes)

2015-08-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 22:47:31 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: > Obviously. ;) If the Rawhide broken deps report had found it, > breakage could have been avoided. > > A different try: > > https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6225 > > Or file it in the infrastructure tracker instead? I don't k

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-08-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:11:26 +0300 Ville Skyttä wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III > wrote: > > The big change is that the Python guidelines have been extensively > > reorganized and partially rewritten, and new macros are available > > which simplify packaging by remo

Re: [HEADS UP] ucommon update

2015-08-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:57:20 +0200 Sandro Mani wrote: > > ok. I will transfer libzrtcpp to you. ;) > > > > You should talk to dyfet directly about sipwitch... > > > Well I just did the non-reponsive maintainer procedure for ucommon, > his other package. I suppose it is fair to assume that he'll al

Re: Validity of i686 as a release blocker

2015-08-05 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 11:12 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Here's my perspective as an i686 Fedora user... > > I have a box (2009-ish) that's in use as a file/backup server. As > such, I don't > spend a lot of time futzing with it - it doesn't run rawhide, it > rarely runs > the prereleases unt

Re: Validity of i686 as a release blocker

2015-08-05 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/04/2015 05:12 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Paul W. Frields (sticks...@gmail.com) said: Here's my perspective as an i686 Fedora user... I have a box (2009-ish) that's in use as a file/backup server. I have 3 i686 boxen. 2 are 2009-ish atom-netbook, one is a 2000-ish PIII-desktop. As s

Re: Heads up: F23 products/spins, weak rpm dependencies, and you

2015-08-05 Thread James Antill
On Wed, 2015-08-05 at 11:33 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: > > > In Fedora 23, rpm has grown support for weak dependencies (Recommends: > > and Suggests: tags). However, the compose tools have not been ported to > > dnf/libsolv yet, which means the

Re: Heads up: F23 products/spins, weak rpm dependencies, and you

2015-08-05 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: >> >> In Fedora 23, rpm has grown support for weak dependencies (Recommends: >> and Suggests: tags). However, the compose tools have not been ported to >> dnf/libsolv yet, which means these t

Re: Heads up: F23 products/spins, weak rpm dependencies, and you

2015-08-05 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: > In Fedora 23, rpm has grown support for weak dependencies (Recommends: > and Suggests: tags). However, the compose tools have not been ported to > dnf/libsolv yet, which means these tags will have no effect at image > compose time. > > This h

Re: gpg keys of older/newer fedora versions

2015-08-05 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Ryan S. Brown wrote: > On 08/01/2015 03:25 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 01, 2015 at 10:40:45AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 17:28:48 + > >> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >> > >>> [In light of https://bugzi

Heads up: F23 products/spins, weak rpm dependencies, and you

2015-08-05 Thread Adam Jackson
In Fedora 23, rpm has grown support for weak dependencies (Recommends: and Suggests: tags). However, the compose tools have not been ported to dnf/libsolv yet, which means these tags will have no effect at image compose time. This has implications for spin kickstarts: the set of packages included

Re: gpg keys of older/newer fedora versions

2015-08-05 Thread Ryan S. Brown
On 08/01/2015 03:25 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, Aug 01, 2015 at 10:40:45AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 17:28:48 + >> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> >>> [In light of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1241383] >>> >>> 'dnf install --inst

F-23 Branched report: 20150805 changes

2015-08-05 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Aug 5 07:15:03 UTC 2015 Broken deps for armhfp -- [apache-scout] apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:uddi-ws) apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:

Re: Boost updated to 1.58.0 in rawhide and f23

2015-08-05 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Thursday, 23 July 2015 at 19:21, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On 23/07/15 14:27 +0200, David Tardon wrote: > >Hi, > > > >On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 12:46:51PM +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > >>Any problems rebuilding either open a bug or feel free to email me or > >>ping me on IRC (my freenode nick is

Re: Question about profile.d scripts definition in Spec file

2015-08-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 06:37:41 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015, at 01:38 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > > Either %config or %config(noreplace) can cause problems during update. > > Neither one is completely safe with regard to breaking a program at > > runtime. It can be necessa

Re: Undefined %epoch problem (Re: rawhide report: 20150730 changes)

2015-08-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:00:59 +0300, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > How to reproduce: > > > > 1. Use Fedora 22. > > 2. dnf install blktap-devel --disablerepo=updates-testing > Can you send debugdata from dnf? > # dnf install blktap-devel --disablerepo=updates-testing --debugsolver > and then archive '

Re: Undefined %epoch problem (Re: rawhide report: 20150730 changes)

2015-08-05 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:47:42 +0300, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > >> I can't reproduce this issue. > > Believe me, you can. You only created a completely different test-case, > which may not suffer from the same problem. > > How to reproduce: > >

Re: Undefined %epoch problem (Re: rawhide report: 20150730 changes)

2015-08-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:47:42 +0300, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > I can't reproduce this issue. Believe me, you can. You only created a completely different test-case, which may not suffer from the same problem. How to reproduce: 1. Use Fedora 22. 2. dnf install blktap-devel --disablerepo=updates-t

Re: Undefined %epoch problem (Re: rawhide report: 20150730 changes)

2015-08-05 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Hi folks, I can't reproduce this issue. $ sudo dnf install https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//packages/blktap/3.0.0/3.fc23.git0.9.2/x86_64/blktap-devel-3.0.0-3.fc23.git0.9.2.x86_64.rpm https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//packages/blktap/3.0.0/3.fc23.git0.9.2/x86_64/blktap-3.0.0-3.fc23.git0.9.2.x8

Re: Question about profile.d scripts definition in Spec file

2015-08-05 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015, at 01:38 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Either %config or %config(noreplace) can cause problems during update. > Neither one is completely safe with regard to breaking a program at > runtime. It can be necessary to switch from %config(noreplace) to %config, > or vice versa, in

Re: Boost updated to 1.58.0 in rawhide and f23

2015-08-05 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 31/07/15 14:49 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Ceph failed to build with some impenetrable C++ error: In file included from /usr/include/boost/optional/optional.hpp:28:0, from /usr/include/boost/optional/optional_io.hpp:19, from ./include/encoding.h:289,

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2015-08-05)

2015-08-05 Thread Parag Nemade
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2015-08-05 18:00 UTC' Links to all tickets belo

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-08-05 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > The big change is that the Python guidelines have been extensively > reorganized and partially rewritten, and new macros are available which > simplify packaging by removing some of the boilerplate which was > previously required. I h