Re: Fedora 22 and missing applications

2015-05-26 Thread Richard Hughes
On 26 May 2015 at 22:10, Reindl Harald wrote: > you need learn to accept that software reaches the point where iot is just > *read yand finished* just because it does what it is supposed to do and > needs ntohing fixed or changed all the time I assume you can point to several high-quality desktop

Re: Fedora 22 and missing applications

2015-05-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:10:55PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >Yes, that shows you care as a packager and allows you to "rescue" > >otherwise unloved applications > who are you to define if an application is "loved" I think there is a language / cultural barrier here — I don't think Richard at

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2015-05-27)

2015-05-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 18:00UTC (1:00pm EST) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic #1441Packaging: Practices for Migrat

Re: Fedora 22 and missing applications

2015-05-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.05.2015 um 22:48 schrieb Richard Hughes: On 26 May 2015 at 19:56, Hans de Goede wrote: What does "dead" in that table mean? I see a lot of games marked this way, and yes many games see little upstream activity, because once a game is finished it typically really is finished. Dead mean

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-05-26 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
sgallagh wrote: > [...] Yes, I thought my new phrasing was more clearly expressing > the original intent of the statement as I understood it. [...] I > think we should perhaps discuss this at the weekly FESCo meeting. https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1446 > This is what I get for trying

Re: Fedora 22 and missing applications

2015-05-26 Thread Richard Hughes
On 26 May 2015 at 19:56, Hans de Goede wrote: > What does "dead" in that table mean? I see a lot of games marked this way, > and yes many games see little upstream activity, because once a game is > finished it typically really is finished. Dead means "no upstream release in 5 years". > If I add

Fedora 22 for aarch64 is here!

2015-05-26 Thread Peter Robinson
We are proud to announce the official release of Fedora 22 for aarch64, the community-driven and community-built operating system now available in Cloud, Server, and Workstation editions. If that's all you need to hear, jump over to Get Fedora to download -- or for current users, run the FedUp upg

Re: Fedora 22 and missing applications

2015-05-26 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 05/26/2015 05:33 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: Quite a few people are going to be installing Fedora 22 in the coming days, searching for things in the software center and not finding their esoteric GUI tool. This is because some applications still don’t ship AppData files, which have become c

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-05-26 Thread Miloslav Trmač
> Yes, that's the way I understand it too. The distinction between local > and remote is that remote attacks are in general more likely and thus > dangerous. > This is a good assumption - I'm sure that on most installations of Fedora > there's just one or a few trusted users, and they outnumber ins

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-05-26 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Hello, > > Nevertheless, you raise an interesting question in general. The way > > I understand the motivation for the restriction is to avoid any > > chance of attack or unexpected access over the network. [...] > > OK, so the question is - are we (still) trying to preclude -local- > escalation

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, 2015-05-26 at 15:33 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 05/26/2015 12:10 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: > > Something needs to be done, but I'm not sure > > exactly what. > > IMO, all this should not be a problem, if collaborative maintenance > works. > > What I mean, IMO, critical packages shou

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > critical packages should have a sufficient number of co-maintainers, who > should be presumed to be sufficiently familiar with a package to provide > enough karma, which would allow such packages to pass quickly Good point... and for thos

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-05-26 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Sun, 2015-05-24 at 14:46 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 07:24:07AM -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > > > zbyszek wrote: > > > > > [...] > > > Clarification: this change did not touch this part of the policy: > > > that > > > definition got copied over fro

Fedora 22 and missing applications

2015-05-26 Thread Richard Hughes
Quite a few people are going to be installing Fedora 22 in the coming days, searching for things in the software center and not finding their esoteric GUI tool. This is because some applications still don’t ship AppData files, which have become compulsory in the workstation spin for this release. L

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Oden Eriksson
Andrew Haley skrev den 2015-05-26 12:10: On 19/05/15 16:20, Kevin Kofler wrote: Martin Stransky wrote: is there any mechanism how to speed up release of critical security fixes by Fedora update system? For instance Firefox packages are released *week* after official Mozilla release which is re

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.05.2015 um 13:26 schrieb Jiri Eischmann: Reindl Harald píše v Út 19. 05. 2015 v 10:45 +0200: Am 19.05.2015 um 10:38 schrieb Martin Stransky: Hi guys, is there any mechanism how to speed up release of critical security fixes by Fedora update system? For instance Firefox packages are r

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
We don't need to complicate things, whenever such critical updates come along, the maintainers can post a message here and in the users ml or even in the forum (somewhere it will be immediately visible). A template for a message detailing the bodhi-karma process, with links to the relevant page for

Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2015-05-26)

2015-05-26 Thread opensource
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If y

rubygem-logging license change

2015-05-26 Thread Vít Ondruch
FYI, The rubygem-logging license changed from "MIT and (GPLv2 or Ruby or BSD)" to "MIT" Vít -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

poppler soname bump in rawhide

2015-05-26 Thread Marek Kasik
Hi, I plan to rebase poppler in rawhide to poppler-0.33.0 during the next week. There are several API changes and soname bump of the base library libpoppler.so.*. I've prepared a scratch build of poppler-0.33.0 against which you can test your packages. You can find the build here: http://koji.f

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 05/26/2015 12:10 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: Something needs to be done, but I'm not sure exactly what. IMO, all this should not be a problem, if collaborative maintenance works. What I mean, IMO, critical packages should have a sufficient number of co-maintainers, who should be presumed to b

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Mono 4

2015-05-26 Thread than
Hello Timotheus, the mono crashes during build process on ppc64. For more details please take a look at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1225035 Than Am 18.05.2015 um 13:50 schrieb Timotheus Pokorra: Hello Dan, first update srpm builds fine on f22/s390x mono segfaults when runn

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Reindl Harald píše v Út 19. 05. 2015 v 10:45 +0200: > > Am 19.05.2015 um 10:38 schrieb Martin Stransky: > > Hi guys, > > > > is there any mechanism how to speed up release of critical security > > fixes by Fedora update system? > > > > For instance Firefox packages are released *week* after offi

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Andrew Haley
On 19/05/15 16:20, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Martin Stransky wrote: >> is there any mechanism how to speed up release of critical security >> fixes by Fedora update system? >> >> For instance Firefox packages are released *week* after official Mozilla >> release which is really bad. >> >> Any idea here

rawhide report: 20150526 changes

2015-05-26 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue May 26 05:15:04 UTC 2015 Broken deps for i386 -- [OpenTK] OpenTK-1.1-1.4c.fc22.noarch requires mono(mscorlib) = 0:2.0.0.0 OpenTK-1.1-1.4c.fc22.noarch requires mono(System.Xml) = 0:2.0.0.0 OpenTK-1

Re: Review Swap: orocos-kdl

2015-05-26 Thread gil
Hi Taken! can you take this https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=826038 ? thanks in advance gil Il 26/05/2015 09:16, Till Hofmann ha scritto: Hi everyone, I'm looking for a reviewer for orocos-kdl: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1076517 I'll be happy to review a package in

Review Swap: orocos-kdl

2015-05-26 Thread Till Hofmann
Hi everyone, I'm looking for a reviewer for orocos-kdl: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1076517 I'll be happy to review a package in return. Thanks, Till -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct