Re: Why does disk I/O slow down a CPU bound task?

2015-03-30 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Dave Johansen wrote: > I noticed on RHEL 6 that when a large amount of disk I/O is happening that > CPU bound tasks "slow down". I have been able to reproduce it in Fedora 21 > as well and here are the instructions of how I can reproduce it with a > simple test: W

Re: "Your Outstanding Requests" on closed bugs

2015-03-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 16:48 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > Dictating use of BZ is usually a futile effort, in Fedora. We have > > a > > policy on it which is in practice rarely observed by anyone. What > > should or should not be the cause is pretty much moot: what *is* > > the > > case is that it ma

Touchpad not functional on Gnome on Wayland

2015-03-30 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
With an unfortunate issue related to xorg-x11-drv-ati on AMD A10 7400P[1], I am unable to run Gnome on X session without "nomodeset" parameter. Current option is to use Gnome on Wayland which lead to an issue with Touchpad. I don't know if the support of Touchpad is implemented within libinput[2],

Re: Why does disk I/O slow down a CPU bound task?

2015-03-30 Thread Dave Johansen
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 3:15 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, drago01 wrote: > > > > https://lwn.net/Articles/572911/ > > https://lwn.net/Articles/467328/ > Thanks for the info. That's very helpful, but it looks like that discussion didn't come to any sort of

Re: Why does disk I/O slow down a CPU bound task?

2015-03-30 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, drago01 wrote: > > https://lwn.net/Articles/572911/ > https://lwn.net/Articles/467328/ Yeah, I vaguely remember that discussion. I went down this rabbit hole in mid-2008, wrote a couple of papers and moved on with my life. There's no software solution - get faster

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-30 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Hello, > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 08:28:21PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > > Actually "machine generated" isn't per se bad ... it saves a lot of > > effort and should be done more (for other packages too where > > possible). > > Why waste man power for something that can be automated? > > > > As for tex

Texlive packaging (Was: A proposal for Fedora updates)

2015-03-30 Thread Jindrich Novy
> On 03/27/2015 05:22 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >* However, I'll note that the recent texlive updates were security as *> >* well. ;) *> > If texlive packaging is causing issues with update pushes, could maybe > ask the texlive maintainers to rework the packaging? TeXLive packager says: No, sorry.

Announcing the release of Fedora 22 Alpha for AARCH64 and POWER64!

2015-03-30 Thread Peter Robinson
Fedora 22 Alpha Release Announcement The Fedora 22 Alpha release for the AARCH64 and POWER 64 secondary architectures has arrived, with a preview of the latest free and open source technology under development. Take a peek inside! • Get Fedora 22 Alpha Serve

Re: Why does disk I/O slow down a CPU bound task?

2015-03-30 Thread drago01
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Dave Johansen wrote: > I noticed on RHEL 6 that when a large amount of disk I/O is happening that > CPU bound tasks "slow down". I have been able to reproduce it in Fedora 21 > as well and here are the instructions of how I can reproduce it with a > simple test: >

Re: Issues around packaging CoreOS' rocket for fedora

2015-03-30 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 03:46:13PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > "ML" == Mark Lamourine writes: > > ML> Is there a recommended way to retrieve, extract and track the files > ML> so that they can be compiled into the gzipped tarball which can then > ML> be included in a package? > >

Re: Issues around packaging CoreOS' rocket for fedora

2015-03-30 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "ML" == Mark Lamourine writes: ML> "build at runtime"? Generate the tarball or whatever image you need at runtime. When it's needed. Not as part of the package build, because I can't see a way that such a thing would be permitted under current Fedora policies. You have runtime dependenc

Re: "Your Outstanding Requests" on closed bugs

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 16:17 -0400, Neil Horman wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:27:17AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> > On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 09:55 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: >> > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >>

Re: Issues around packaging CoreOS' rocket for fedora

2015-03-30 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "ML" == Mark Lamourine writes: ML> Is there a recommended way to retrieve, extract and track the files ML> so that they can be compiled into the gzipped tarball which can then ML> be included in a package? I cannot think of anything in existing Fedora policy which would permit that. You c

Re: "Your Outstanding Requests" on closed bugs

2015-03-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 16:17 -0400, Neil Horman wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:27:17AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 09:55 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > > > > > > On 03/30/2015 08:39 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > > >

Re: Why does disk I/O slow down a CPU bound task?

2015-03-30 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Dave Johansen wrote: > I noticed on RHEL 6 that when a large amount of disk I/O is happening that > CPU bound tasks "slow down". I have been able to reproduce it in Fedora 21 > as well and here are the instructions of how I can reproduce it with a > simple test: >

Re: "Your Outstanding Requests" on closed bugs

2015-03-30 Thread Neil Horman
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:27:17AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 09:55 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > > > > On 03/30/2015 08:39 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > > > > > > > > There are currently no flags set at all. > > > > > >

Re: should we consider making CoDel the default to combat bufferbloat?

2015-03-30 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 28/03/15 04:40, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > On 28.03.2015 04:42, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:34:35AM +, Pádraig Brady wrote: >>> Following on from >>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.kernel/5549 >>> Has there been any more considerat

Re: Issues around packaging CoreOS' rocket for fedora

2015-03-30 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "LM" == Lokesh Mandvekar writes: LM> There seem to be a few issues with it currently though, the major LM> one being using a non-distro-provided systemd (systemd v215): Just a note that in my opinion there is essentially no chance that the packaging committee would approve a bundling excep

Why does disk I/O slow down a CPU bound task?

2015-03-30 Thread Dave Johansen
I noticed on RHEL 6 that when a large amount of disk I/O is happening that CPU bound tasks "slow down". I have been able to reproduce it in Fedora 21 as well and here are the instructions of how I can reproduce it with a simple test: 1) Build the disk_test.cc (the "CPU bound task") and run it. 2)

Issues around packaging CoreOS' rocket for fedora

2015-03-30 Thread Lokesh Mandvekar
Hi list, I'm working on packaging rocket for Fedora. There's a review request open for it: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169966 There seem to be a few issues with it currently though, the major one being using a non-distro-provided systemd (systemd v215): - Building rocket involves

spot pushed to perl-Email-Date (f22). "1.104"

2015-03-30 Thread notifications
>From 9d75531334f53864811610ebddce81b1abd426a1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Tom Callaway Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 14:57:03 -0400 Subject: 1.104 diff --git a/perl-Email-Date.spec b/perl-Email-Date.spec index f925363..fecce02 100644 --- a/perl-Email-Date.spec +++ b/perl-Email-Date.spec @@ -1,12 +1

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-30 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "GH" == Gerd Hoffmann writes: GH> Makes sense to me, not only for texlive, stuff like perl pkgs from GH> cpan have pretty standard way to be built too. It's not just how the packages are built. There are also bundling and license issues which require manual inspection. The only reason fo

Re: "Your Outstanding Requests" on closed bugs

2015-03-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 09:55 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > > On 03/30/2015 08:39 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > > > > > > There are currently no flags set at all. > > > > Check the flags on the attachment itself (your second link). > > Ohh. there is

Re: hibernation support - lack of distro-wide coordination between systemd, dracut, anaconda, pm-utils and maybe more?

2015-03-30 Thread Richard Hughes
On 30 March 2015 at 15:42, drago01 wrote: > Can/should we just obsolete / retire it? I tried to, but I don't have enough super powers. Richard. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject

Re: hibernation support - lack of distro-wide coordination between systemd, dracut, anaconda, pm-utils and maybe more?

2015-03-30 Thread drago01
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: > On 03/30/2015 11:08 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: >> On 30 March 2015 at 07:57, Till Maas wrote: >>> - provides hibernation support via "systemctl hibernate", which is >>> also what pm-hibernate does (why do we have two tools for the s

Re: "Your Outstanding Requests" on closed bugs

2015-03-30 Thread Fernando Nasser
On 2015-03-30 9:55 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 03/30/2015 08:39 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: There are currently no flags set at all. Check the flags on the attachment itself (your second link). Ohh. there is shows up. How odd. Thanks. Now at leas

[POC-change] Fedora packages point of contact updates

2015-03-30 Thread nobody
Change in package status over the last 168 hours 1 packages were orphaned maven-changes-plugin [master] was orphaned by mizdebsk Plugin to support reporting of changes between releases https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Re: "Your Outstanding Requests" on closed bugs

2015-03-30 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 03/30/2015 08:39 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: There are currently no flags set at all. Check the flags on the attachment itself (your second link). Ohh. there is shows up. How odd. Thanks. Now at least I know how to get rid of it, although I th

Re: "Your Outstanding Requests" on closed bugs

2015-03-30 Thread Neil Horman
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 03:48:23PM +0200, Petr Šabata wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 09:39:31AM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015, Petr Šabata wrote: > > > > >> Bug 815617: PATCH: properly deal with crypt() returning NULL (1043 days > > >> old) > > >>https://bugzilla.redha

Re: "Your Outstanding Requests" on closed bugs

2015-03-30 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 03/30/2015 08:39 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: There are currently no flags set at all. Check the flags on the attachment itself (your second link). -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproj

Re: "Your Outstanding Requests" on closed bugs

2015-03-30 Thread Petr Šabata
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 09:39:31AM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015, Petr Šabata wrote: > > >> Bug 815617: PATCH: properly deal with crypt() returning NULL (1043 days > >> old) > >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815617 > >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachme

Re: "Your Outstanding Requests" on closed bugs

2015-03-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 30.3.2015 v 15:39 Paul Wouters napsal(a): > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015, Petr Šabata wrote: > >>> Bug 815617: PATCH: properly deal with crypt() returning NULL (1043 >>> days old) >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815617 >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=585827&ac

Re: "Your Outstanding Requests" on closed bugs

2015-03-30 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015, Petr Šabata wrote: Bug 815617: PATCH: properly deal with crypt() returning NULL (1043 days old) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815617 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=585827&action=edit This bug is already closed. And has no "flags" set.

Re: "Your Outstanding Requests" on closed bugs

2015-03-30 Thread Petr Šabata
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 09:25:12AM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > > Hi, > > So I get a regular reminder for "Your Outstanding Requests" > > However, a bunch of these are on closed bugs. It seems stuck somehow in > thinking it needs something from me. For example: > > Bug 815617: PATCH: properly

"Your Outstanding Requests" on closed bugs

2015-03-30 Thread Paul Wouters
Hi, So I get a regular reminder for "Your Outstanding Requests" However, a bunch of these are on closed bugs. It seems stuck somehow in thinking it needs something from me. For example: Bug 815617: PATCH: properly deal with crypt() returning NULL (1043 days old) https://bugzilla.redhat.c

Re: sundials updated - bionetgen and ascend depend on it

2015-03-30 Thread Antonio Trande
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/2015 12:55 AM, Mukundan Ragavan wrote: > > Greetings, > > I have updated the package sundials to the latest upstream version > (2.6.0) on rawhide (only) today. > > repoquery indicates bionetgen (zbyszek) and ascend (sagitter) > depend on

Re: hibernation support - lack of distro-wide coordination between systemd, dracut, anaconda, pm-utils and maybe more?

2015-03-30 Thread Richard Hughes
On 30 March 2015 at 11:21, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > Is systemctl hibernate/suspend the official replacement for > pm-hibernate/suspend now? Very much so :) Richard. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora C

Re: hibernation support - lack of distro-wide coordination between systemd, dracut, anaconda, pm-utils and maybe more?

2015-03-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
"Luckily", resume from hybernation does not work at all for me on Rawhide: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1199708 Vít Dne 30.3.2015 v 08:57 Till Maas napsal(a): > Hi, > > it seems to be that me have a major problem of core package maintainers > coordinating features in Fedora. >

Re: hibernation support - lack of distro-wide coordination between systemd, dracut, anaconda, pm-utils and maybe more?

2015-03-30 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Monday, 30 March 2015 at 11:08, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 30 March 2015 at 07:57, Till Maas wrote: > > - provides hibernation support via "systemctl hibernate", which is > > also what pm-hibernate does (why do we have two tools for the same > > core task?) > > pm-hibernate sho

Re: hibernation support - lack of distro-wide coordination between systemd, dracut, anaconda, pm-utils and maybe more?

2015-03-30 Thread Kalev Lember
On 03/30/2015 11:08 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 30 March 2015 at 07:57, Till Maas wrote: >> - provides hibernation support via "systemctl hibernate", which is >> also what pm-hibernate does (why do we have two tools for the same >> core task?) > > pm-hibernate should have been

Re: hibernation support - lack of distro-wide coordination between systemd, dracut, anaconda, pm-utils and maybe more?

2015-03-30 Thread Richard Hughes
On 30 March 2015 at 07:57, Till Maas wrote: > - provides hibernation support via "systemctl hibernate", which is > also what pm-hibernate does (why do we have two tools for the same > core task?) pm-hibernate should have been removed from Fedora a long time ago. I don't know what

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-30 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > If FPC would be open to bulk-approving machine-generated individual > spec files (given, say, they're provably all following the template, > which would be reviewed), and rel-eng has some way of bulk-adding the > necessary branches and builds, that really seems like a step forward to > me.

Re: orphaning a few packages

2015-03-30 Thread Petr Šabata
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:53:22PM +0100, François Cami wrote: > * and the zathura stack: girara, zathura, zathura-cb, zathura-djvu, > zathura-pdf-poppler, zathura-ps (maintained by contyk) Too late to take it :/ P pgpi3vSo_qrs7.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.f