Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > So what exactly is the problem the target audience has? They want > GNOME Packages to be included again by default so they have both an > application GUI installer, and a packages GUI installer? That is potentially one way to address i

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-04 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Chris Murphy < wrote: >> >> There's already an application that does this, it's GNOME >> Packages or use yum/dnf. > > > If this was the answer, there wouldn't be so many repeated discussions about > it.

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-04 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Aleksandar Kurtakov */ wrote on Sun, 4 Jan 2015 02:55:17 -0500 (EST): - Original Message - From: "Hedayat Vatankhah" To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 11:15:58 PM Subject: Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from

Re: allowing programs to open ports

2015-01-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Björn Persson wrote: > > I bet! I worry that the questions would quickly become annoying. But if > > ports are going to be blocked by default, then there needs to be some > > way for non-sysadmin users to open them. > > No, why? The ports

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Chris Murphy < wrote: > There's already an application that does this, it's GNOME > Packages or use yum/dnf. > If this was the answer, there wouldn't be so many repeated discussions about it. Users don't differentiate between say htop and geany as much as the

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-04 Thread Rich Mattes
On 01/04/2015 06:46 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Gary Scarborough wrote: Is workstation being aimed at new users or developers? And is the goal the same for Gnome? If Gnome is aiming to cater to new users, then is it the right primary DE for fedora? There seems to be a misalignment here. I've be

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-04 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: >> >> We're not filtering out packages that don't qualify as applications. >> GNOME Software only searches the AppStream metadata > > > Yes. My suggestion was to change that How?

[Test-Announce] 2015-01-05 @16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2015-01-04 Thread Adam Williamson
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2015-01-05 # Time: 16:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! Hope everyone had a happy and safe winter solstice event of their choice. Now it's time for the most

Re: Review Request: python-sane

2015-01-04 Thread Mukundan Ragavan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 01/02/2015 01:10 PM, Sandro Mani wrote: > Hi, > > python-pillow split off the sane library into a separate project, > review request for the package is here: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1178191 > > Happy to review in exchang

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Gary Scarborough wrote: > Is workstation being aimed at new users or developers? And is the goal > the same for Gnome? If Gnome is aiming to cater to new users, then is it > the right primary DE for fedora? There seems to be a misalignment here. I've been pointing out that misalignment from day

Re: allowing programs to open ports

2015-01-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Björn Persson wrote: > I bet! I worry that the questions would quickly become annoying. But if > ports are going to be blocked by default, then there needs to be some > way for non-sysadmin users to open them. No, why? The ports just need to be closed, period. Non-sysadmin users shouldn't be allo

retire: seam-conversation, seam-parent, seam-solder, openjpa

2015-01-04 Thread gil
Hi, I want retire: seam-conversation, seam-parent, seam-solder I do not have many reasons to keep them still And if someone can take care of openjpa package or can give a help as co-maintainer. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENJPA-2386 Unusable and not buildable with Java8. As last reso

Re: Yet another frustration with Fedora package management

2015-01-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: > > So, I thought that maybe every package *likes* to have its specific > settings method; and therefore I proposed to have a global configuration > which configures main package manager policy. > I agree with the problem. However I do

Re: Yet another frustration with Fedora package management

2015-01-04 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Reindl Harald */ wrote on Sun, 04 Jan 2015 19:19:20 +0100: Am 04.01.2015 um 19:13 schrieb Hedayat Vatankhah: <...> DNF is using "/etc/dnf/dnf.conf" which is one reason more to finally rename it back to YUM when it starts to replace it instead demand users all over the world change workin

Re: Yet another frustration with Fedora package management

2015-01-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.01.2015 um 19:13 schrieb Hedayat Vatankhah: /*Reindl Harald */ wrote on Sun, 04 Jan 2015 19:11:01 +0100: Am 04.01.2015 um 19:02 schrieb Hedayat Vatankhah: /*Rex Dieter */ wrote on Sat, 03 Jan 2015 16:58:32 -0600: Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: <...> Suggestion: Please add a single configur

Re: Yet another frustration with Fedora package management

2015-01-04 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Reindl Harald */ wrote on Sun, 04 Jan 2015 19:11:01 +0100: Am 04.01.2015 um 19:02 schrieb Hedayat Vatankhah: /*Rex Dieter */ wrote on Sat, 03 Jan 2015 16:58:32 -0600: Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: <...> Suggestion: Please add a single configuration file to configure common package manager o

Re: Yet another frustration with Fedora package management

2015-01-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.01.2015 um 19:02 schrieb Hedayat Vatankhah: /*Rex Dieter */ wrote on Sat, 03 Jan 2015 16:58:32 -0600: Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: <...> Suggestion: Please add a single configuration file to configure common package manager options I think you answered your own question => modify the .repo

Re: Yet another frustration with Fedora package management

2015-01-04 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Rex Dieter */ wrote on Sat, 03 Jan 2015 16:58:32 -0600: Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: <...> Suggestion: Please add a single configuration file to configure common package manager options I think you answered your own question => modify the .repo files Thank you!!! Yes, I know that I can do it

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > We're not filtering out packages that don't qualify as applications. > GNOME Software only searches the AppStream metadata Yes. My suggestion was to change that Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.

Re: File location

2015-01-04 Thread Christopher Meng
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Anshu Prateek wrote: > hi, > > I am working on packaging an upstream (aerospike) which presently puts some > of its file in /opt/aerospike. > > The two main folders in use (by upstream) are > > /opt/aerospike/sys/udf/lua - This has the user defined lua functions >

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-04 Thread Richard Hughes
On 4 January 2015 at 02:45, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Another alternative would be for GNOME Software to show packages perhaps > optionally and deprioritize packages in the listing We're not filtering out packages that don't qualify as applications. GNOME Software only searches the AppStream metada

rawhide report: 20150104 changes

2015-01-04 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sun Jan 4 05:15:03 UTC 2015 Broken deps for i386 -- [Sprog] Sprog-0.14-27.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.18.0) [aeskulap] aeskulap-0.2.2-0.19beta1.fc22.i686 requires libofstd.so.3.6 aesku

Re: File location

2015-01-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/04/2015 10:34 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 3:01 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 01/04/2015 07:41 AM, Anshu Prateek wrote: hi, I am working on packaging an upstream (aerospike) which presently puts some of its file in /opt/aerospike. The two main folders in use (

Re: File location

2015-01-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 3:01 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 01/04/2015 07:41 AM, Anshu Prateek wrote: >> >> hi, >> >> I am working on packaging an upstream (aerospike) which presently puts >> some of its file in /opt/aerospike. >> >> The two main folders in use (by upstream) are >> >> /opt/aerosp

Re: File location

2015-01-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/04/2015 07:41 AM, Anshu Prateek wrote: hi, I am working on packaging an upstream (aerospike) which presently puts some of its file in /opt/aerospike. The two main folders in use (by upstream) are /opt/aerospike/sys/udf/lua - This has the user defined lua functions shipped with the pac

Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

2015-01-04 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - > From: "Alec Leamas" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 10:19:30 PM > Subject: Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora,but stemming > from gnome-software and desktop environments > > On 03/01/15 20:26