Xorg crashes detected by ABRT

2014-10-22 Thread Jakub Filak
Hi folks, I ported the ABRT kernel oops detector to journald some time ago, because of NoDefaultSyslog change. I wanted to do the same with the ABRT Xorg stack trace detector (just because I do not like the current implementation and it is possible now [2]), but I am not able to trigger the Xorg'

Announcing the Fedora 21 Alpha for the Aarch64 architecture!

2014-10-22 Thread Peter Robinson
I'm pleased to announce the arrival of the Fedora Alpha release for the ARM aarch64 architecture. Feel free to take it for a drive [1]. The initial release of Fedora for aarch64 focuses on the Fedora Base and Server product with support for hardware plarforms such as the APM Storm platform includi

Re: Improving the offline updates user experience

2014-10-22 Thread Ian Malone
On 22 October 2014 20:07, Michael Stahl wrote: > On 17.09.2014 13:58, Miroslav Suchý wrote: >> On 09/17/2014 11:54 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: >>> All those OSes require reboots when updating the OS. >> >> Define OS. >> >> Firefox is definitely not OS. While systemd is OS. >> I am fine with reboot a

Re: Broken deps in rawhide (coreutils)

2014-10-22 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, 2014-10-22 at 12:48 -0600, Jerry James wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > I am pointing the finger right now at icecat. It seems to be providing > > all the nss libraries and 'winning' the dependency. It's making all the > > buildroots a good deal larger t

Re: Improving the offline updates user experience

2014-10-22 Thread Michael Stahl
On 17.09.2014 13:58, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > On 09/17/2014 11:54 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: >> All those OSes require reboots when updating the OS. > > Define OS. > > Firefox is definitely not OS. While systemd is OS. > I am fine with reboot after systemd upgrade, but not after upgrading Firefox.

Re: Broken deps in rawhide (coreutils)

2014-10-22 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I am pointing the finger right now at icecat. It seems to be providing > all the nss libraries and 'winning' the dependency. It's making all the > buildroots a good deal larger than they need to be, and possibly making > them link to the wrong

Headsup updating miglayout to 4.2 for F-21+

2014-10-22 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, I'm working on updating freecol to 0.11 and that needs a new miglayout, so I'm updating miglayout too, and I'll push them in tandem. This should not be a problem, since according to repoquery freecol is the only user of miglayout. Regards, Hans -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproje

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-10-22)

2014-10-22 Thread Matthew Miller
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-10-22) === Meeting started by mattdm at 17:00:22 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-10-22/fesco.2014-10-22-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary ---

Fedora on Intel Edison

2014-10-22 Thread Jos Vos
Hi, Is there anyone working on making Fedora work with the Intel Edison? Thx, -- --Jos Vos --X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 --Amsterdam, The Netherlands| Fax: +31 20 6948204 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.f

Re: Improving the offline updates user experience

2014-10-22 Thread Tom Rivers
On 10/22/2014 10:58, drago01 wrote: No the OS is more than just a kernel. Kernel Space contains more than just the kernel. It also contains device drivers, kernel extensions, and other privileged processes that require full system access. User Space exists as a barrier to keep applications

Re: Improving the offline updates user experience

2014-10-22 Thread drago01
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Tom Rivers wrote: > On 10/22/2014 06:31, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> >> It would be great if we could nicely isolate the apps from the OS so that >> we can restart the apps independently from the OS, but this requires >> isolating things first. > > > Isn't the dif

Re: Improving the offline updates user experience

2014-10-22 Thread Tom Rivers
On 10/22/2014 06:31, Lennart Poettering wrote: It would be great if we could nicely isolate the apps from the OS so that we can restart the apps independently from the OS, but this requires isolating things first. Isn't the differentiation between kernel space and user space sufficient for id

Re: Improving the offline updates user experience

2014-10-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 22 October 2014 04:31, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 17.09.14 13:58, Miroslav Suchý (msu...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > On 09/17/2014 11:54 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > >All those OSes require reboots when updating the OS. > > > > Define OS. > > > > Firefox is definitely not OS. While syst

Re: Looking for xorg-x11-* package co-maintainers

2014-10-22 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 10/22/2014 01:59 PM, Matthieu Gautier wrote: > Le 22/10/2014 11:25, Hans de Goede a écrit : >> Hi All, >> >> As you probably know the graphics team always has more work to do >> then we've manpower. >> >> As the person taking care of various old xor-x11 apps / utilities >> and utility libra

Re: Looking for xorg-x11-* package co-maintainers

2014-10-22 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 10/22/2014 01:44 PM, Simone Caronni wrote: > Out of the previous list, the only ones that have not been updated yet are: > > -intel-gpu-tools 1.8 (1.7 in rawhide/f21) > -xkeyboard-config 2.13 (2.12 in rawhide/f21) > -xcb-util 0.4.0 (0.3.9 in rawhide/f21) > -libxcb 1.11 (1.10 in f21) > -xra

Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-10-22 Thread Johannes Lips
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > One of the long standing features that were enabled by default in yum is > support for delta rpms. dnf developers have disabled this and I think this > change deserves a broader discussion > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cg

[Test-Announce] 2014-10-22 @ 1600 UTC ** Fedora 21 Blocker Review Meeting

2014-10-22 Thread Mike Ruckman
# F21 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2014-10-22 # Time: 16:00 UTC (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT) # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net We've already had one blocker review meeting this week (which is likely why I forgot to send this email until now), but it's time for another! With Go/No

Fedora 21 Beta Release Readiness Meeting :: Thursday, Oct. 23, 19:00 UTC

2014-10-22 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Fedora 21 Beta Release Readiness Meeting. date: 2014-10-23 place: irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-2 time: 19:00 UTC (3 PM EDT, 12 PM PDT, 21:00 CEST) This Thursday, October 23, we will meet to make sure we are coordinated and ready for the Beta release of Fedora 21 on Tuesday, October 28, 201

Re: Improving the offline updates user experience

2014-10-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 22.10.14 14:11, Roberto Ragusa (m...@robertoragusa.it) wrote: > On 10/21/2014 10:02 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > Maybe > > that's actually a strategy to adopt here: upload the encryption keys > > into the firmware as efi vars, and then pull them out on next boots or > > so (assumin

Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-10-22 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 10/17/2014 05:52 AM, poma wrote: > On 06.10.2014 16:46, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> - Original Message - >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 2014-10-06 at 10:54 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: On 6 October 2014 09:41, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > One of the long standing features that wer

F-21 Branched report: 20141022 changes

2014-10-22 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Oct 22 07:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [PyQuante] PyQuante-libint-1.6.4-11.fc21.1.armv7hl requires libint(armv7hl-32) = 0:1.1.6-2.fc21 [audtty] audtty-0.1.12-9.fc20.armv7hl requires libaudcli

Re: Improving the offline updates user experience

2014-10-22 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 10/21/2014 10:02 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Maybe > that's actually a strategy to adopt here: upload the encryption keys > into the firmware as efi vars, and then pull them out on next boots or > so (assuming that efi vars can be marked to survive soft reboots > without making them fully p

Re: Looking for xorg-x11-* package co-maintainers

2014-10-22 Thread Matthieu Gautier
Le 22/10/2014 11:25, Hans de Goede a écrit : > Hi All, > > As you probably know the graphics team always has more work to do > then we've manpower. > > As the person taking care of various old xor-x11 apps / utilities > and utility libraries I'm looking for co-maintainers to help with > maintaini

rawhide report: 20141022 changes

2014-10-22 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Oct 22 05:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for i386 -- [3Depict] 3Depict-0.0.16-3.fc22.i686 requires libmgl.so.7.2.0 [Agda] ghc-Agda-2.3.2.2-5.fc22.i686 requires libHSterminfo-0.3.2.5-ghc7.6.3.so ghc-Ag

Re: Improving the offline updates user experience

2014-10-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 08:48:59AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > >Offline updates are more for the cases where things need to be > >reliable, because no well educated admin is available to instantly > >fix things. > > I will print it an pin up on my notice board. > > And the implication is that

Re: Looking for xorg-x11-* package co-maintainers

2014-10-22 Thread Simone Caronni
Out of the previous list, the only ones that have not been updated yet are: -intel-gpu-tools 1.8 (1.7 in rawhide/f21) -xkeyboard-config 2.13 (2.12 in rawhide/f21) -xcb-util 0.4.0 (0.3.9 in rawhide/f21) -libxcb 1.11 (1.10 in f21) -xrandr 1.4.3 (1.4.2 in f21) -twm-1.0.8 (1.0.7 in f21) -imake 1.0.7 (

Proposal for integration tests infrastructure

2014-10-22 Thread Honza Horak
Fedora lacks integration testing (unit testing done during build is not enough). Taskotron will be able to fill some gaps in the future, so maintainers will be able to set-up various tasks after their component is built. But even before this works we can benefit from having the tests already av

Re: Improving the offline updates user experience

2014-10-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 17.09.14 13:58, Miroslav Suchý (msu...@redhat.com) wrote: > On 09/17/2014 11:54 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > >All those OSes require reboots when updating the OS. > > Define OS. > > Firefox is definitely not OS. While systemd is OS. > I am fine with reboot after systemd upgrade, but not a

Re: Improving the offline updates user experience

2014-10-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 16.09.14 13:35, Petr Pisar (ppi...@redhat.com) wrote: > On 2014-09-16, Richard Hughes wrote: > > The much bigger issues is if you're using a D-Bus service > > like most applications seem to do (and most use quite a few system and > > session, directly and indirectly) then you've also got

Re: Looking for xorg-x11-* package co-maintainers

2014-10-22 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 10/22/2014 12:09 PM, Simone Caronni wrote: > On 22 October 2014 11:25, Hans de Goede wrote: > >> You do not need to be a hardcore X hacker to help here. 2 things >> with which I really could use help is keeping all the various bits >> and pieces up2date with upstream releases, and taking

Re: Looking for xorg-x11-* package co-maintainers

2014-10-22 Thread Simone Caronni
On 22 October 2014 11:25, Hans de Goede wrote: > You do not need to be a hardcore X hacker to help here. 2 things > with which I really could use help is keeping all the various bits > and pieces up2date with upstream releases, and taking care of > simple (packaging) bugs were possible. > > To gi

Re: Broken deps in rawhide (coreutils)

2014-10-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 09:51:36 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 10/21/2014 08:41 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > I'm not sure why koji buildroots aren't busted however, unless it's > > somehow the hosts yum (in the case of koji, f20 and copr el6) is doing > > things differently? > > Well, koji build

Looking for xorg-x11-* package co-maintainers

2014-10-22 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi All, As you probably know the graphics team always has more work to do then we've manpower. As the person taking care of various old xor-x11 apps / utilities and utility libraries I'm looking for co-maintainers to help with maintaining these. You do not need to be a hardcore X hacker to help

Re: Broken deps in rawhide (coreutils)

2014-10-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/21/2014 08:41 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I'm not sure why koji buildroots aren't busted however, unless it's somehow the hosts yum (in the case of koji, f20 and copr el6) is doing things differently? Well, koji buildroots also seem to be affected E.g. https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//pa