On 10/21/2014 10:08 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Offline updates are more for the cases where things need to be
reliable, because no well educated admin is available to instantly fix
things.
I will print it an pin up on my notice board.
And the implication is that offline updates are not for
Am 21.10.2014 um 22:08 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
On Fri, 12.09.14 18:37, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
1 out of a million cases needs offline updates
really - the only good at it is that you can stick
at using YUM and decide what you have to do at your
own - rarely updates r
On Fri, 12.09.14 18:37, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
>
> Am 12.09.2014 um 18:33 schrieb Nathanael d. Noblet:
> > So I don't use Firefox anymore but I do know back in the day if we had
> > FF open when we updated it would do a double request for each page/form.
> > However when up
On Fri, 12.09.14 10:46, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote:
> It is very common for users to have systems with encrypted root
> partitions (or even just /var and /etc). This may be due to a
> personal
Nitpicking: we currently do not support split-off /etc on
Fedora/Dracut. /var may be
On 2014-10-21 18:11, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 03:59:46PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
>> I assumed that adding them to KEYUTILS_1.4 would be okay because nothing
>> would've tried to use them previously because they didn't exist in any
>> version.
>
> One thing to bear in
Fedora 21 Workstation
Fedora 21 Server
Fedora 21 Cloud
That makes it easy for us remixers - CompJournoStick 21 Workstation, for
example.
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:28:16 -0400
> Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > I raised a q
On Mon, 2014-10-13 at 11:26 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 2014-10-02 at 07:53 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2014-09-12 at 10:46 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > > == The Problem ==
> > >
> > > It is very common for users to have systems with encrypte
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:23:29 +0200
Miroslav Suchy wrote:
> Today I got report that there are failed builds in Copr for rawhide
> chroots. [1]
...snip...
> And there may be even more examples. You can try it yourself by:
> rm -rf /var/lib/mock/fedora-rawhide-x86_64/root/*
> /usr/bin/yum --insta
On Tue, 2014-10-21 at 19:26 +0200, Miroslav Suchy wrote:
> On 10/21/2014 03:33 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > Anyone worked out how to get top to give a normal (ie. old) display in
> > Rawhide?
>
> It is in F21 too.
>
> Type:
>tttmmVbz1W
> and you get original look and feel.
>
> For di
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:28:16 -0400
Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> I raised a question with the Board a couple weeks ago[1] as to how we
> should be branding the different releases. It's been clear that
> different groups have different opinions on whether we should call
> something
On 10/21/2014 03:33 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Anyone worked out how to get top to give a normal (ie. old) display in
Rawhide?
It is in F21 too.
Type:
tttmmVbz1W
and you get original look and feel.
For discussion see bug 1153049.
Mirek
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Today I got report that there are failed builds in Copr for rawhide
chroots. [1]
After investigation I find that coreutils are installed too late, so
they are not available to previous postcripts:
Installing : crypto-policies-20140905-1.git4649b7d.fc22.noarch
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 08:56:19PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> Hmm, not sure I follow here. Since when is systemd an optional
> component in Fedora?
I have been spending much of my time building Fedora-based Docker
containers recently. I've been sticking to the
one-process-per-container mo
On 10/21/2014 10:59 AM, David Howells wrote:
> Is there a good description of ELF shared library symbol versioning best
> practices somewhere?
If you haven't already read Uli's paper, that's a start:
http://www.akkadia.org/drepper/dsohowto.pdf
(section 3 in particular)
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On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 03:59:46PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Is there a good description of ELF shared library symbol versioning best
> practices somewhere?
>
> In particular, under what conditions do you need to create a new section in
> the versioning file given to the linker's --version-scr
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:13:19PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-10-21 at 15:59 +0100, David Howells wrote:
> > Is there a good description of ELF shared library symbol versioning best
> > practices somewhere?
> >
> > In particular, under what conditions do you need to create a new sec
On Tue, 2014-10-21 at 15:59 +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Is there a good description of ELF shared library symbol versioning best
> practices somewhere?
>
> In particular, under what conditions do you need to create a new section in
> the versioning file given to the linker's --version-script opt
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 03:59:46PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Is there a good description of ELF shared library symbol versioning best
> practices somewhere?
>
> In particular, under what conditions do you need to create a new section in
> the versioning file given to the linker's --version-scr
2014-10-21 17:06 GMT+02:00 David Timothy Strauss :
> Should be Fedora 21 $PRODUCT because the Fedora version is underneath
> the product, and one product can usually convert into another on an
> installed system.
Caution, there is no guarantee that it will always be supported.
As far as the Cloud
See, that's easy ! :)
H.
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2014-10-21 16:39 GMT+02:00 Máirín Duffy :
>
>
> On 10/21/2014 09:36 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 08:28:16AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>>>
>>> A few specific comments that have been made on the Board ticket (to
>>> avoid rehashing them).
>>>
>>> * "Fedora Server 21"
Should be Fedora 21 $PRODUCT because the Fedora version is underneath
the product, and one product can usually convert into another on an
installed system.
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Is there a good description of ELF shared library symbol versioning best
practices somewhere?
In particular, under what conditions do you need to create a new section in
the versioning file given to the linker's --version-script option when new
symbols are added?
And what do you do if you've done
On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 08:28:16AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> A few specific comments that have been made on the Board ticket (to
>> avoid rehashing them).
>>
>> * "Fedora Server 21" sounds like we've had 21 releases of Fedora Server
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting Wednesday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net.
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
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or run:
date -d '2014-10-22 17:00 UTC'
Links to all tickets b
There's a guy that created a script for he's own purposes.
So, just to have an idea:
[Unit]
Description=Sheepdog QEMU/KVM Block Storage
After=syslog.target
[Service]
EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/
sheep.conf
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/sheep --pidfile /var/run/sheep.pid ${SHEEP_OPTS}
${SHEEP_PATH}
PIDFile=
#fedora-meeting: Env and Stacks (2014-10-21)
Meeting started by hhorak at 13:02:31 UTC. The full logs are available
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On 10/21/2014 09:36 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 08:28:16AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
A few specific comments that have been made on the Board ticket (to
avoid rehashing them).
* "Fedora Server 21" sounds like we've had 21 releases of Fedora Server
and we certainly
On Tue, 2014-10-21 at 13:33 +0200, Sergio Pascual wrote:
> I have retired python-llvmpy in Rawhide and F21.
> Now if the owner of llvm does the "Obsoletes trick " then the rebase
> can go ahead, is it right?
Hopefully! I still need to get dragonegg building, but that at least
does have an activ
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 09:47:45AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> FWIW, if you press "1" (numeral one), it collapses all the CPUs to a
> single line covering all of them. I find that quite helpful.
What I really want is one line showing the collapsed view, and a second
line showing me if any of
On Tue, 2014-10-21 at 14:33 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Anyone worked out how to get top to give a normal (ie. old) display in
> Rawhide?
>
> The default consumes huge amounts of whitespace with a useless display
> of per-CPU stats, and [not shown] is completely static until you press 'P
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 09:42:30AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 02:33:39PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > Anyone worked out how to get top to give a normal (ie. old) display in
> > Rawhide?
> > The default consumes huge amounts of whitespace with a useless display
>
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 02:33:39PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Anyone worked out how to get top to give a normal (ie. old) display in
> Rawhide?
> The default consumes huge amounts of whitespace with a useless display
> of per-CPU stats, and [not shown] is completely static until you press '
Am 21.10.2014 um 15:33 schrieb Richard W.M. Jones:
Anyone worked out how to get top to give a normal (ie. old) display in
Rawhide?
The default consumes huge amounts of whitespace with a useless display
of per-CPU stats, and [not shown] is completely static until you press 'P'.
after the first
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 08:28:16AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> A few specific comments that have been made on the Board ticket (to
> avoid rehashing them).
>
> * "Fedora Server 21" sounds like we've had 21 releases of Fedora Server
> and we certainly haven't.
> * Should we start all of the P
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 08:25:55AM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > I raised a question with the Board a couple weeks ago[1] as to how we
> > should be branding the different releases. It's been clear that
> > different groups have different opinions
Anyone worked out how to get top to give a normal (ie. old) display in
Rawhide?
The default consumes huge amounts of whitespace with a useless display
of per-CPU stats, and [not shown] is completely static until you press 'P'.
Rich.
top - 14:20:04 up 3:46, 3 users, load average: 1.65, 1.18, 1
Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> I raised a question with the Board a couple weeks ago[1] as to how we
> should be branding the different releases. It's been clear that
> different groups have different opinions on whether we should call
> something Fedora Server 21 vs. Fedora 21 Serve
On Tue, 2014-10-21 at 08:47 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
> On 10/21/2014 08:42 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 10/21/2014 08:28 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> >>> * Should we start all of the Products at version 1 and say "built on the
> >>> Fed
On 10/21/2014 08:42 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
- Original Message -
Hi,
On 10/21/2014 08:28 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
* Should we start all of the Products at version 1 and say "built on the
Fedora 21 platform"?
Is there any intention to release the products on different schedul
- Original Message -
> Hi,
>
> On 10/21/2014 08:28 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > * Should we start all of the Products at version 1 and say "built on the
> > Fedora 21 platform"?
>
> Is there any intention to release the products on different schedules?
Definitely not now or in the ne
Hi,
On 10/21/2014 08:28 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
* Should we start all of the Products at version 1 and say "built on the
Fedora 21 platform"?
Is there any intention to release the products on different schedules?
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On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 21 October 2014 12:55, Rajeesh K Nambiar wrote:
>> smc-fonts failed to process with 'unrecognized contents' message
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/hughsie/createrepo_as_logs/master/s/smc-fonts-common.log
>> What could be the issue?
Hello folks,
I raised a question with the Board a couple weeks ago[1] as to how we
should be branding the different releases. It's been clear that
different groups have different opinions on whether we should call
something Fedora Server 21 vs. Fedora 21 Server (and Workstation and
Cloud, of cours
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 07:10:01PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1099299 - systemd - "fedup
> fails to upgrade F20 to F21 or later - infinite loop when starting udev"
> - the expected fix for this has been written, but testing is difficult
> without i
On 21 October 2014 12:55, Rajeesh K Nambiar wrote:
> smc-fonts failed to process with 'unrecognized contents' message
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/hughsie/createrepo_as_logs/master/s/smc-fonts-common.log
> What could be the issue?
Two things look to be the problem:
needs to be:
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Compose started at Tue Oct 21 05:15:03 UTC 2014
Broken deps for i386
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[3Depict]
3Depict-0.0.16-3.fc22.i686 requires libmgl.so.7.2.0
[Agda]
ghc-Agda-2.3.2.2-5.fc22.i686 requires libHSterminfo-0.3.2.5-ghc7.6.3.so
ghc-Ag
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 17 October 2014 10:22, pravin@gmail.com wrote:
>> Will be very helpful if you can add "how to test" information as well. i.e.
>> after local install package will appear in gnome-software something in bit
>> detail.
>
> You can't actu
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[PyQuante]
PyQuante-libint-1.6.4-11.fc21.1.armv7hl requires libint(armv7hl-32) =
0:1.1.6-2.fc21
[audtty]
audtty-0.1.12-9.fc20.armv7hl requires libaudcli
2014-10-21 12:32 GMT+02:00 Kalev Lember :
> On 10/21/2014 10:37 AM, Sergio Pascual wrote:
> > Just a question. If I retire the package in F21, will it affect the F20
> > F21 upgrade path for those
> > who have python-llvmpy installed?
> >
> > I mean, you upgrade, there is a new llvm 3.5, but you h
On 17 October 2014 10:22, pravin@gmail.com wrote:
> Will be very helpful if you can add "how to test" information as well. i.e.
> after local install package will appear in gnome-software something in bit
> detail.
You can't actually "preview" metainfo files in the same way as AppData
files;
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On 10/21/2014 10:37 AM, Sergio Pascual wrote:
> Just a question. If I retire the package in F21, will it affect the F20
> F21 upgrade path for those
> who have python-llvmpy installed?
>
> I mean, you upgrade, there is a new llvm 3.5, but you have python-llvpmy
> that requires llvm 3.4
> and... fe
2014-10-20 16:19 GMT+02:00 Adam Jackson :
> On Fri, 2014-10-17 at 19:16 +0200, Sergio Pascual wrote:
> > 2014-10-17 16:00 GMT+02:00 Peter Robinson :
>
> > So I'm OK with retiring python-llvmpy if a patch doesn't appear soon.
>
> I would be too, but I'm going to want 3.5 in F21, and we have this wh
2014-10-21 8:49 GMT+02:00 Valerio Pachera :
> 2014-10-20 15:04 GMT+02:00 Richard Shaw :
>> On a side note, I played around building a package and noticed that only a
>> sysvinit file is provided. Upstream should develop a systemd service file.
>
> Hi Richard, thank you very much for this note that
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