Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-10-16 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/17/2014 05:40 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: My comment was not meant to be argumentative, but rather tongue-in-cheek. However, I do believe when changing a default, it isn't about what is convenient for me. It's about what is best for the entire community and what are the real world ramificati

Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-10-16 Thread Gerald B. Cox
My comment was not meant to be argumentative, but rather tongue-in-cheek. However, I do believe when changing a default, it isn't about what is convenient for me. It's about what is best for the entire community and what are the real world ramifications. I'm not buying the "let's change the defau

Re: man-db without cache update (no cron or systemd *.timer)

2014-10-16 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 10/16/2014 05:10 PM, Jan Chaloupka wrote: Have you considered installing the timer file, but without the dependency? If systemd is there, it could use it, otherwise not. That would make a whole lot more sense to me than creating another package, and would be my recommendation. Nope, th

Re: Broken dependencies in F21 (was: Re: F-21 Branched report: 20141015 changes)

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:40:50 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: > We seem to have a number of broken dependencies in F21 that have gone > unfixed for a quite some time. Not sure what's up with them; the > maintainers are supposed to get daily notifications to make sure these > don't go unnoticed. > > Doe

Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-10-16 Thread Felix Miata
Gerald B. Cox composed on 2014-10-16 12:52 (UTC-0700): > Kevin Kofler wrote: >> And parallelization (as others in the thread have suggested) will not help >> at all on the single-core machine I'm typing this on. > Single-Core? Really Kevin? Even the One Laptop Per Child machines are > dual-cor

Re: Review swap

2014-10-16 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Jerry James wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Jerry James wrote: >> One of my packages has picked up a dependency on libpuma in a new release: >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1135654 >> >> Would someone care to do a review swap? Thanks,

Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-10-16 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > And parallelization (as others in the thread have suggested) will not help > at all on the single-core machine I'm typing this on. > Single-Core? Really Kevin? Even the One Laptop Per Child machines are dual-core. ;-) -- devel mailing li

Re: Broken dependencies in F21 (was: Re: F-21 Branched report: 20141015 changes)

2014-10-16 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Thursday, 16 October 2014 at 16:47, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > On Thu, 2014-10-16 at 14:40 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > We seem to have a number of broken dependencies in F21 that have gone > > unfixed for a quite some time. Not sure what's up with them; the > > maintainers are s

Re: New hardware for Retrace Server

2014-10-16 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 10/15/2014 11:50 PM, Jakub Filak wrote: > On Wed, 2014-10-15 at 16:55 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> >> We used to have the ability to get statistics grouped by packager, >> right, or am I mis-remembering? > > We still have it, but you can filter by packager only on 'Problems' > page: > > h

enhancing crypto policies for other languages than C

2014-10-16 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
Hello, The currently proposed fedora maintainer instructions for the system-wide crypto policy are mainly for the C language. Could some experienced in other languages (e.g., ruby/python) propose some text for them? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Nmav/CryptoPolicies regards, Nikos -- dev

Re: Django-1.7 for Fedora 21

2014-10-16 Thread Tomas Tomecek
Latest & greatest, please. Especially since django 1.7 brought south (migrations) to core. Also, in a couple of months, I believe that a lot of folks would love to use 1.7, so let's make their life easier (by NOT doing 'pip install'). Tomas -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org h

Re: Can you help with making fonts awesome in Fedora 21?

2014-10-16 Thread Richard Hughes
On 16 October 2014 16:25, Parag N(पराग़) wrote: > I have pushed all my fedora 21 updates as an individual updates now. Cool, thanks. Any chance you could mark those in the spreadsheet somehow? e.g. Make the packages have a red background or something. Thanks. Richard -- devel mailing list devel@

Re: Broken dependencies: freesteam

2014-10-16 Thread Antonio Trande
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/25/2014 02:46 PM, Rich Mattes wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Antonio Trande > mailto:anto.tra...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > Hi all. > > On 08/25/2014 01:39 PM, build...@fedoraproject.org

RE: Django-1.7 for Fedora 21

2014-10-16 Thread John Florian
> -Original Message- > From: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:devel- > boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Ryan S. Brown > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 09:59 > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: Re: Django-1.7 for Fedora 21 > > On 10/16/2014 09:32 AM, S

Re: man-db without cache update (no cron or systemd *.timer)

2014-10-16 Thread Jan Chaloupka
On 10/16/2014 04:49 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 10/16/2014 01:30 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:35:13AM +0200, Jan Chaloupka wrote: Forwarding Colin's response = On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 09:47:41AM -0500, Chris Adam

Re: Broken dependencies in F21

2014-10-16 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/16/2014 04:47 PM, Mathieu Bridon wrote: On Thu, 2014-10-16 at 14:40 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: ## json-c soname bump json-c seems to have dropped the /usr/include/json -> /usr/include/json-c symlink. This breaks packages, which depend upon /usr/include/json, e.g. libverto-jsonrpc. Wa

Re: Broken dependencies in F21

2014-10-16 Thread Kalev Lember
On 10/16/2014 06:16 PM, Antonio Trande wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > >> [freesteam] freesteam-ascend-2.1-6.20140724svn753.fc21.armv7hl >> requires libascend.so.1 > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-August/201840.html Likely fixed by https://admi

Re: Broken dependencies in F21

2014-10-16 Thread Antonio Trande
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > [freesteam] freesteam-ascend-2.1-6.20140724svn753.fc21.armv7hl > requires libascend.so.1 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-August/201840.html - -- Antonio Trande mailto: sagitter 'at' fedoraproject 'dot' org http://fedoraos.wo

Re: Qt 5 Fedora 21 packages

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 16:27:57 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > It looks like one could simply prepend > > > > /usr/lib64/qt5/bin > > > > to $PATH to make available the executables, which are renamed to avoid > > conflicts with other Qt versions. > > There you have your "wrapper script": > export

Re: Can you help with making fonts awesome in Fedora 21?

2014-10-16 Thread पराग़
Hi, On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 16 October 2014 10:51, Tim Lauridsen wrote: >> Mega updates, sound a litlle wrong to me so late in the F21 cycle, Fine for >> rawhide (f22) > > I did think about creating a new update for each build, but that's so > much clicking. F

Re: Broken dependencies in F21 (was: Re: F-21 Branched report: 20141015 changes)

2014-10-16 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 04:47:29PM +0200, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > On Thu, 2014-10-16 at 14:40 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > We seem to have a number of broken dependencies in F21 that have gone > > unfixed for a quite some time. Not sure what's up with them; the > > maintainers ar

Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-10-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ian Malone wrote: > "I have an internet flatrate at 150 mbs, and downloading the full rpms > is ALOT faster than the the work that the delta rpms requires." > > Wow. Good to see normal users are taken into account. I have a normal Austrian broadband connection, and it is still much faster to jus

Re: Broken dependencies in F21

2014-10-16 Thread Kalev Lember
On 10/16/2014 02:40 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: > [gnome-python2-desktop] >> gnome-python2-metacity-2.32.0-18.fc21.armv7hl requires >> libmetacity-private.so.0 And replying to my own mail, this should be fixed with: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-python2-desktop-2.32.0-20.fc21 --

Re: man-db without cache update (no cron or systemd *.timer)

2014-10-16 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 10/16/2014 01:30 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:35:13AM +0200, Jan Chaloupka wrote: Forwarding Colin's response = On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 09:47:41AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Jan Chaloupka said: there h

Re: Broken dependencies in F21 (was: Re: F-21 Branched report: 20141015 changes)

2014-10-16 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Thu, 2014-10-16 at 14:40 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: > Hi all, > > We seem to have a number of broken dependencies in F21 that have gone > unfixed for a quite some time. Not sure what's up with them; the > maintainers are supposed to get daily notifications to make sure these > don't go unnotice

Re: Qt 5 Fedora 21 packages

2014-10-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rex Dieter wrote: > * there's a developer tool 'qtchooser' that allows users to switch between > default Qt developer environments. For the Qt5 qmake case, > $ qtchooser -qt=qt5 -run-tool=qmake > qtchooser is a little controversial (not universally endorsed by the kde- > sig), so currently it is n

Re: Qt 5 Fedora 21 packages

2014-10-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Schwendt wrote: > Some confusion here trying to use Fedora's Qt 5 packages, and it seems > they cannot be use quickly. Depends on the build system you (or the upstream project you're packaging) use: * CMake: just works * qmake: call qmake-qt5 and it'll find all the rest just fine * qbs: h

Re: Django-1.7 for Fedora 21

2014-10-16 Thread Ryan S. Brown
On 10/16/2014 09:32 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > There are no Django applications that are part of the install sets of > any of the Products or Spins so far as I am aware, so the risk to the > Project deliverable dates would be minimal. I'd suggest bringing it to > FESCo for a more complete

Re: Django-1.7 for Fedora 21

2014-10-16 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, 2014-10-16 at 14:46 +0200, Matthias Runge wrote: > On 16/10/14 14:25, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Hi > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > in Fedora 21, we have Django-1.6. Django-1.7 was released a few weeks > > ago. As we're

Re: man-db without cache update (no cron or systemd *.timer)

2014-10-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:35:13AM +0200, Jan Chaloupka wrote: > Forwarding Colin's response > = > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 09:47:41AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > >Once upon a time, Jan Chaloupka said: > >> there has been a discussion about if we need cache for

Re: Broken dependencies in F21

2014-10-16 Thread Matthias Runge
On 16/10/14 14:40, Kalev Lember wrote: > Hi all, > > We seem to have a number of broken dependencies in F21 that have gone > unfixed for a quite some time. Not sure what's up with them; the > maintainers are supposed to get daily notifications to make sure these > don't go unnoticed. > > Does any

Re: Broken dependencies in F21

2014-10-16 Thread Vít Ondruch
Thanks for bringing this up. Speaking of broken Ruby stuff: [rubygem-linecache19] rubygem-linecache19-0.5.13-6.fc20.armv7hl requires libruby.so.2.0 [rubygem-ruby-debug-base19] rubygem-ruby-debug-base19-0.11.26-6.fc20.armv7hl requires libruby.so.2.0 A while ago, I suggested to dr

Re: Broken dependencies in F21 (was: Re: F-21 Branched report: 20141015 changes)

2014-10-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 14:40:50 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: Does anyone have ideas how to deal with these packages? I have been meaning to deal with meshmagick. I actually did a small part of the changes locally. The issue is that stricter checking by gcc is resulting in the package not bu

Re: Qt 5 Fedora 21 packages

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 07:24:53 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > There are several strategies: > > * The -qt5 convention is already used by most distributions, so many > applications/tools have adapted to it already. If you're aware of any that > haven't yet, I'd be happy to help produce upstreamable p

Re: Django-1.7 for Fedora 21

2014-10-16 Thread Matthias Runge
On 16/10/14 14:25, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: > > Hello, > > in Fedora 21, we have Django-1.6. Django-1.7 was released a few weeks > ago. As we're in feature freeze, but still pre-beta. I'd like to ask for > opinions, if

Broken dependencies in F21 (was: Re: F-21 Branched report: 20141015 changes)

2014-10-16 Thread Kalev Lember
Hi all, We seem to have a number of broken dependencies in F21 that have gone unfixed for a quite some time. Not sure what's up with them; the maintainers are supposed to get daily notifications to make sure these don't go unnoticed. Does anyone have ideas how to deal with these packages? I wond

Re: man-db without cache update (no cron or systemd *.timer)

2014-10-16 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 16.10.2014 v 14:09 Matthew Miller napsal(a): > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 01:54:41PM +0200, Mathieu Bridon wrote: >> Which goes back to the idea of either moving %{_unitdir} to the >> filesystem package, or having a systemd-filesystem package... I can't see nothing against guidelines [1]. They sa

Re: Django-1.7 for Fedora 21

2014-10-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: > Hello, > > in Fedora 21, we have Django-1.6. Django-1.7 was released a few weeks > ago. As we're in feature freeze, but still pre-beta. I'd like to ask for > opinions, if an upgrade to Django-1.7 would be still acceptable. > > I have a

Re: Qt 5 Fedora 21 packages

2014-10-16 Thread Rex Dieter
There are several strategies: * The -qt5 convention is already used by most distributions, so many applications/tools have adapted to it already. If you're aware of any that haven't yet, I'd be happy to help produce upstreamable patches to implement such support. * qt5-qtbase-devel provides r

Re: man-db without cache update (no cron or systemd *.timer)

2014-10-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 01:54:41PM +0200, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > Which goes back to the idea of either moving %{_unitdir} to the > filesystem package, or having a systemd-filesystem package... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1153638 -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader -- devel

Re: man-db without cache update (no cron or systemd *.timer)

2014-10-16 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 10/16/2014 12:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 05:53:41PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: I discussed this with Peter Schiffer and the end result was in the future the man-db cron should be removed and man-db database should be updated with rpm triggerand the cron j

Re: man-db without cache update (no cron or systemd *.timer)

2014-10-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 05:53:41PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > I discussed this with Peter Schiffer and the end result was in the > future the man-db cron should be removed and man-db database should > be updated with rpm triggerand the cron job should be kept as is > until then, presic

Re: man-db without cache update (no cron or systemd *.timer)

2014-10-16 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Thu, 2014-10-16 at 13:34 +0200, Jan Chaloupka wrote: > On 10/16/2014 12:56 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 16.10.2014 v 10:35 Jan Chaloupka napsal(a): > >> Forwarding Colin's response [... snip ...] > >> Have you considered installing the timer file, but without the > >> dependency? If systemd i

[PkgDB] limb:perl-Net-Dropbox-API watchbugzilla set to Approved

2014-10-16 Thread pkgdb
user: limb set for cheeselee acl: watchbugzilla of package: perl-Net-Dropbox-API from: to: Approved on branch: el6 To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/perl-Net-Dropbox-API -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl

rawhide report: 20141016 changes

2014-10-16 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Oct 16 05:15:05 UTC 2014 Broken deps for i386 -- [3Depict] 3Depict-0.0.16-3.fc22.i686 requires libmgl.so.7.2.0 [Agda] ghc-Agda-2.3.2.2-5.fc22.i686 requires libHSterminfo-0.3.2.5-ghc7.6.3.so ghc-Ag

Qt 5 Fedora 21 packages

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
Some confusion here trying to use Fedora's Qt 5 packages, and it seems they cannot be use quickly. $ rpm -qa qt5\*|sort qt5-qtbase-5.3.2-3.fc21.x86_64 qt5-qtbase-devel-5.3.2-3.fc21.x86_64 qt5-qtbase-gui-5.3.2-3.fc21.x86_64 qt5-qtbase-ibase-5.3.2-3.fc21.x86_64 qt5-qtbase-mysql-5.3.2-3.f

Django-1.7 for Fedora 21

2014-10-16 Thread Matthias Runge
Hello, in Fedora 21, we have Django-1.6. Django-1.7 was released a few weeks ago. As we're in feature freeze, but still pre-beta. I'd like to ask for opinions, if an upgrade to Django-1.7 would be still acceptable. I have a copr available containing Django-1.7 [1] Thoughts? Matthias [1] https:

Re: man-db without cache update (no cron or systemd *.timer)

2014-10-16 Thread Jan Chaloupka
On 10/16/2014 12:56 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 16.10.2014 v 10:35 Jan Chaloupka napsal(a): Forwarding Colin's response = On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 09:47:41AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Jan Chaloupka said: there has been a discussion about if w

Re: Tripwire fails to build for F21 and Rawhide

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 02:32:49 -0700, Moez Roy wrote: > Tripwire fails to build for F21 and Rawhide. Is there a proven > packager out there who has some spare time to submit a fix for this? Where is the package maintainer? The non-responsive maintainer procedure ought to get restarted for him, if t

F-21 Branched report: 20141016 changes

2014-10-16 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Thu Oct 16 07:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [PyQuante] PyQuante-libint-1.6.4-11.fc21.1.armv7hl requires libint(armv7hl-32) = 0:1.1.6-2.fc21 [audtty] audtty-0.1.12-9.fc20.armv7hl requires libaudcli

Re: man-db without cache update (no cron or systemd *.timer)

2014-10-16 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 16.10.2014 v 10:35 Jan Chaloupka napsal(a): > Forwarding Colin's response > = > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 09:47:41AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: >> Once upon a time, Jan Chaloupka said: >> > there has been a discussion about if we need cache for man-db for >> us

Re: Can you help with making fonts awesome in Fedora 21?

2014-10-16 Thread Richard Hughes
On 16 October 2014 10:51, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > Mega updates, sound a litlle wrong to me so late in the F21 cycle, Fine for > rawhide (f22) I did think about creating a new update for each build, but that's so much clicking. For something as simple as this an update with ~30 packages is very eas

Re: Can you help with making fonts awesome in Fedora 21?

2014-10-16 Thread Tim Lauridsen
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > If you maintain a font in Fedora, or are a provenpackager, I could > really need your help this weekend. Basically, we want to implement > AppStream metadata[1] for all the fonts we want to show in the > software center. I've already made

Can you help with making fonts awesome in Fedora 21?

2014-10-16 Thread Richard Hughes
If you maintain a font in Fedora, or are a provenpackager, I could really need your help this weekend. Basically, we want to implement AppStream metadata[1] for all the fonts we want to show in the software center. I've already made a good start, and now other people are starting to help as well, s

Tripwire fails to build for F21 and Rawhide

2014-10-16 Thread Moez Roy
Tripwire fails to build for F21 and Rawhide. Is there a proven packager out there who has some spare time to submit a fix for this? Relevant info: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1107464 https://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/tripwire.git/ https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?t

Re: man-db without cache update (no cron or systemd *.timer)

2014-10-16 Thread Jan Chaloupka
Forwarding Colin's response = On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 09:47:41AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Jan Chaloupka said: > there has been a discussion about if we need cache for man-db for users > which use man pages or update system only from time to ti