Re: rpm 4.12 and weak dependencies

2014-10-09 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 10/09/2014 10:04 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 9 Oct 2014 18:05:03 +0200 Michael Schroeder wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 11:03:20AM -0400, Miloslav Trma?? wrote: [...] That documentation belongs upstream (and should _not_ be just repeated within our packaging guidelines IMHO). From an

Re: [pyelftools/f19] (4 commits) ...python3 is not available in epel7

2014-10-09 Thread Moez Roy
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > On 10/08/2014 11:41 PM, Moez Roy wrote: > > Summary of changes: > > > > 58461a8... Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_3 (*) > > 7ec9589... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Mass (*) > > f0a

Re: bugzilla usage trends

2014-10-09 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 05:39:34PM -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: >I was curious about the rate of bug reporting in Fedora, and did this >quick experiment. I thought it might be interesting to folks here who >either work on the infrastructure or are curious about long-term >collabo

Re: Giving away all of my packages

2014-10-09 Thread Truong Anh. Tuan
- Original Message - > From: "Christof Damian" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Fedora PHP development team" > Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 9:12:42 PM > Subject: Re: Giving away all of my packages > > Remaining packages up for grabs: > > - python-progress

Re: Possible PPC kernel bug on builders

2014-10-09 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Dan Horák wrote: > we know about it, don't have any answer yet :-( Okay, thanks for letting me know. I'd appreciate a note when you get the problem resolved. Regards, -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org h

Re: [pyelftools/f19] (4 commits) ...python3 is not available in epel7

2014-10-09 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 10/08/2014 11:41 PM, Moez Roy wrote: > Summary of changes: > > 58461a8... Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_3 (*) > 7ec9589... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Mass (*) > f0aeace... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_22_M (

bugzilla usage trends

2014-10-09 Thread Przemek Klosowski
I was curious about the rate of bug reporting in Fedora, and did this quick experiment. I thought it might be interesting to folks here who either work on the infrastructure or are curious about long-term collaboration trends in Fedora. I checked the date of reporting of every 10,000th bug (bu

Re: rpm 4.12 and weak dependencies

2014-10-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 9 Oct 2014 18:05:03 +0200 Michael Schroeder wrote: > On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 11:03:20AM -0400, Miloslav Trma?? wrote: > > [...] > > That documentation belongs upstream (and should _not_ be just > > repeated within our packaging guidelines IMHO). > > From an rpm upstream point of view, we

Re: rpm 4.12 and weak dependencies

2014-10-09 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 10/08/2014 12:31 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Greetings. > > This F21 change: > http://fedoraproject.org//wiki/Changes/RPM-4.12 > > has brought us 'weak dependencies', namely: > > Recommends, Suggests, Supplements and Enhances > > Rpm in f21 and rawhide sees these in spec files and builds fin

Re: rpm 4.12 and weak dependencies

2014-10-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > especially as we are taking the RPM-level control away from the users > completely in cloud How is that? > and Atomic images already. See: https://lists.projectatomic.io/projectatomic-archives/atomic-devel/2014-October/msg5.html --

Re: rpm 4.12 and weak dependencies

2014-10-09 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 11:03:20AM -0400, Miloslav Trma?? wrote: > [...] > That documentation belongs upstream (and should _not_ be just repeated within > our packaging guidelines IMHO). From an rpm upstream point of view, we don't know much about what those dependencies do. We simply relay the i

Re: rpm 4.12 and weak dependencies

2014-10-09 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: > Good idea! Thanks and done ... In addition, http://rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/Dependencies terminates rather abruptly, with "or B Supplements". That should at least be "or B Supplements A." Actually, there are a few other wording mistakes in th

Re: btrfs as default filesystem for F22?

2014-10-09 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 10/8/14 8:39 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 08.10.2014 14:50, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis >> wrote: >>> Josh Boyer wrote on 07.10.2014 21:15: On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Josef Bacik wrote: [...] >>> http://kernel.opensuse.org/cgit/ke

Re: rpm 4.12 and weak dependencies

2014-10-09 Thread Miloslav Trmač
- Original Message - > The Fedora question would be not “what do the tags do” but “when is it > appropriate to use Suggests, when Recommends, and when Requires”? (And FWIW my take is that having this level of complexity in the dependency system is a mistake that is making things complex f

Re: rpm 4.12 and weak dependencies

2014-10-09 Thread Miloslav Trmač
- Original Message - > Most importantly, we need to update packaging guidelines to explain > what are the semantic differences between these different tags. But > that's a minor update. That seems to be well enough covered upstream. (Well modulo “does Fedora actually do what the upstream

Re: rpm 4.12 and weak dependencies

2014-10-09 Thread Miloslav Trmač
(reordering the citations!) > > > Why should we ban weak dependencies if they really > > > do nothing in YUM? > > > > We need a precise and detailed functional description about what these > > "weak dependencies" are supposed to do. > > Do you mean something like this? > > http://rpm.org/wiki/Pa

Re: Giving away all of my packages

2014-10-09 Thread Gerald B. Cox
I've got Sphinx... Will bump it at the end of the month when I get home. On Oct 9, 2014 11:13 AM, "Christof Damian" wrote: > Thanks Shawn. > > And more thanks also go to Remi and you for mentoring me and being > patient with me learning the packaging process. > > Remaining packages up for grabs:

Re: Giving away all of my packages

2014-10-09 Thread Christof Damian
Thanks Shawn. And more thanks also go to Remi and you for mentoring me and being patient with me learning the packaging process. Remaining packages up for grabs: - python-progressbar ( hasn't changed for ages, might be time to retire it) - sphinx ( regular updates ) On 9 October 2014 15:55, S

Re: Non-responsive package maintainer (affix)

2014-10-09 Thread Brandon Vincent
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Jamie Nguyen wrote: > I think you should probably ignore the fact that Affix happens to be the > first point of contact, and instead email "peter" or "jpo" who are the > active maintainers. I've notified them multiple times as well. BZ assigns the ticket to the lis

Re: Giving away all of my packages

2014-10-09 Thread Shawn Iwinski
You can assign the remaining php-* ones that Remi didn't take to me if you would like. On Oct 9, 2014 6:22 AM, "Christof Damian" wrote: > I waited probably a bit long with this, but most of the packages have > already co-maintainers that are doing a better job than me. > > Due to a job with more

File Test-Synopsis-0.11.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2014-10-09 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Test-Synopsis: c6b0eb651f8b95757ccee4f430d659bf Test-Synopsis-0.11.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/m

Re: Giving away all of my packages

2014-10-09 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
Hi, On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Christof Damian wrote: > I waited probably a bit long with this, but most of the packages have > already co-maintainers that are doing a better job than me. > > Due to a job with more responsibilities and less Red Hat, Fedora and PHP, > I don't have the time

Re: Giving away all of my packages

2014-10-09 Thread Christof Damian
On 9 October 2014 15:03, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 10/09/2014 05:21 AM, Christof Damian wrote: >> >> mediawiki-wikicalendar -- Simple calendar extension for mediawiki ( >> master f21 f20 f19 el6 el5 ) > > > I noticed you are the upstream for this and it seems like very low > maintenance (no

Re: Giving away all of my packages

2014-10-09 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 10/09/2014 05:21 AM, Christof Damian wrote: mediawiki-wikicalendar -- Simple calendar extension for mediawiki ( master f21 f20 f19 el6 el5 ) I noticed you are the upstream for this and it seems like very low maintenance (no update for 5 years). Would you still have time to act as upstream?

rawhide report: 20141009 changes

2014-10-09 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Oct 9 05:15:08 UTC 2014 Broken deps for i386 -- [Agda] ghc-Agda-2.3.2.2-5.fc22.i686 requires libHSterminfo-0.3.2.5-ghc7.6.3.so ghc-Agda-2.3.2.2-5.fc22.i686 requires libHShaskeline-0.7.0.3-ghc7.6.3.so

F-21 Branched report: 20141009 changes

2014-10-09 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Thu Oct 9 07:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [PyQuante] PyQuante-libint-1.6.4-11.fc21.1.armv7hl requires libint(armv7hl-32) = 0:1.1.6-2.fc21 [audtty] audtty-0.1.12-9.fc20.armv7hl requires libaudcli

Fwd: js/src/configure issue on Firefox

2014-10-09 Thread Antonio Trande
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. I'm working on Icecat-31's RPM building but I'm blocked by a strange problem. Have you never seen something like that? .. STOP! /home/sagitter/rpmbuild/BUILD/icecat-31.1.1/js/src/configure has changed and needs to be run again. Please rerun

Giving away all of my packages

2014-10-09 Thread Christof Damian
I waited probably a bit long with this, but most of the packages have already co-maintainers that are doing a better job than me. Due to a job with more responsibilities and less Red Hat, Fedora and PHP, I don't have the time needed to keep up with the Fedora Next and PHP ecosystem changes. It wa

Re: Non-responsive package maintainer (affix)

2014-10-09 Thread Jamie Nguyen
On 09/10/14 06:28, Brandon Vincent wrote: > Over the past month, I have tried contacting Keiran Smith (affix) in > regards to nagios with no success [1]. > > Is anyone aware to his present status in regards to the Fedora Project > or possibly have an alternative method to reach him? Strangely, no

Re: Idea: Ability to define dependencies between coprs (correctly)

2014-10-09 Thread Tomas Hozza
On 10/02/2014 05:48 PM, Honza Horak wrote: > On 10/02/2014 05:18 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 02, 2014 at 05:00:40PM +0200, Honza Horak wrote: >>> Problem: >>> Currently, copr allows to add a link to an arbitrary repo URL that is >>> available for installing dependencies during buil

Re: rpm 4.12 and weak dependencies

2014-10-09 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 10/08/2014 11:04 PM, Haïkel wrote: Before dnf gets promoted as the default package manager, it would be interesting to do some widespread testing. I would like to point out, that you can use weak dependencies in Copr in F21 and rawhide chroots. Which should give you enough space for testing

Re: rpm 4.12 and weak dependencies

2014-10-09 Thread Haïkel
2014-10-09 8:57 GMT+02:00 Ralf Corsepius : > > I do not. > I understand your point of view, in a different context (ie: dnf being default package manager), I would have shared yours. > > We need a precise and detailed functional description about what these "weak > dependencies" are supposed to d

Re: rpm 4.12 and weak dependencies

2014-10-09 Thread Jan Zelený
-- snip -- > > Do you mean something like this? > > > > http://rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/Dependencies > > It would be nice if words "weak dependencies" at > http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.12.0 > linked to > http://rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/Dependencies#Weakdependencies > > Jan, do you have righ

Re: rpm 4.12 and weak dependencies

2014-10-09 Thread Petr Spacek
On 9.10.2014 09:27, Jan Zelený wrote: On 9. 10. 2014 at 08:57:42, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 10/09/2014 08:41 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: On 8.10.2014 23:04, Haïkel wrote: 2014-10-08 20:31 GMT+02:00 Kevin Fenzi : Greetings. This F21 change: http://fedoraproject.org//wiki/Changes/RPM-4.12 has broug

Re: rpm 4.12 and weak dependencies

2014-10-09 Thread Jan Zelený
On 9. 10. 2014 at 08:57:42, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 10/09/2014 08:41 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: > > On 8.10.2014 23:04, Haïkel wrote: > >> 2014-10-08 20:31 GMT+02:00 Kevin Fenzi : > >>> Greetings. > >>> > >>> This F21 change: > >>> http://fedoraproject.org//wiki/Changes/RPM-4.12 > >>> > >>> has br

Re: rpm 4.12 and weak dependencies

2014-10-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/09/2014 08:41 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: On 8.10.2014 23:04, Haïkel wrote: 2014-10-08 20:31 GMT+02:00 Kevin Fenzi : Greetings. This F21 change: http://fedoraproject.org//wiki/Changes/RPM-4.12 has brought us 'weak dependencies', namely: Recommends, Suggests, Supplements and Enhances Rpm in