On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 12:41 +0200, Vratislav Podzimek wrote:
> Will do, tomorrow. Or is too late now?
Sorry I didn't reply before. I missed the mail. You can post to the
magazine whenever you have the time. I see Ryan's already done a post on
blivet-gui now, though:
http://fedoramagazine.org/mana
Dne 16.9.2014 v 17:29 Matthias Clasen napsal(a):
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 16:21 +0200, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
Has Fedora given up Unix ??
This thread has gone quite far out into the weeds. It started with a
fairly concrete question: can we improve the offline update experience
by requiring only
Dne 16.9.2014 v 17:36 Miloslav Trmač napsal(a):
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2. Ability to detect which processes depend on which versions of which
components.
We already managed to brought in systemd
I can’t see how systemd helps. See the other discussions about Python/Ruby
modules tha
Hello,
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> Imagine a virtual machine, %VMNAME%, which executes a arch-independent
> bytecode. Where packager should store it? Most notable candidates are
> /usr/share/%VMNAME%, /usr/lib/%VMNAME%.
>
> So far Java has /usr/share/java/, Perl uses %{perl_vendorlib}
> (/usr/s
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> Dne 16.9.2014 v 17:08 Miloslav Trmač napsal(a):
> > - Original Message -
> >>> Well, what we would need is:
> >>> 1. Ability to keep multiple versions (both ABI-compatible and
> >>> ABI-incompatible) of a single application or library or service installed
> >>
Fantastic, you did it !
I suggest to submit it as a Feature for F22.
H.
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On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 16:21 +0200, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
>
> Has Fedora given up Unix ??
This thread has gone quite far out into the weeds. It started with a
fairly concrete question: can we improve the offline update experience
by requiring only a single reboot, instead of two ?
I'd still be i
Dne 16.9.2014 v 17:08 Miloslav Trmač napsal(a):
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Well, what we would need is:
1. Ability to keep multiple versions (both ABI-compatible and
ABI-incompatible) of a single application or library or service installed
and running at the same time.
Other distributions al
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Alpha Release Candidate 1
(RC1) is now available for testing. Content information, including
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# F21 Blocker Review meeting
# Date: 2014-09-17
# Time: 16:00 UTC (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT)
# Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net
Greeting testers! Tomorrow we've got another Blocker Review to do.
As of today there are no proposed blockers and 6 proposed FEs for F21 Alpha.
The full
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> > Well, what we would need is:
> > 1. Ability to keep multiple versions (both ABI-compatible and
> > ABI-incompatible) of a single application or library or service installed
> > and running at the same time.
>
> Other distributions allow to install multiple version
Dne 16.9.2014 v 16:39 Miloslav Trmač napsal(a):
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Dne 16.9.2014 v 12:21 Richard Hughes napsal(a):
On 16 September 2014 10:55, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
Just a thought - but wouldn't be better spend time to enlighten
Gnome/Firefox developers how to write applications in
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> Dne 16.9.2014 v 12:21 Richard Hughes napsal(a):
> > On 16 September 2014 10:55, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
> >> Just a thought - but wouldn't be better spend time to enlighten
> >> Gnome/Firefox developers how to write applications in a way the could be
> >> upgraded runt
#fedora-meeting: Env and Stacks (2014-09-16)
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Hi,
I have open a bug tracker about something which seems to be an
interesting feature.
Support (out of the box) for nginx + php-fpm +
=> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1142298
Feel free to subscribe / comment this tracker.
Remi
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Dne 16.9.2014 v 12:21 Richard Hughes napsal(a):
On 16 September 2014 10:55, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
Just a thought - but wouldn't be better spend time to enlighten
Gnome/Firefox developers how to write applications in a way the could be
upgraded runtime
So, it's not just the application, it's e
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On 09/16/2014 09:58 AM, Haïkel wrote:
> 2014-09-16 15:24 GMT+02:00 Stephen Gallagher
> : I need a review for a trivial Python
> library: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1142276
>
> I'll swap for a similarly straightforward review if you've
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> I need a review for a trivial Python library:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1142276
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> I'll swap for a similarly straightforward review if you've got one.
Hi Stephen,
I will gladl
On 2014-09-16, Richard Hughes wrote:
> The much bigger issues is if you're using a D-Bus service
> like most applications seem to do (and most use quite a few system and
> session, directly and indirectly) then you've also got to co-ordinate
> and handle changing D-Bus API (which typically isn't v
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I need a review for a trivial Python library:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1142276
I'll swap for a similarly straightforward review if you've got one.
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On 16 September 2014 13:29, Przemek Klosowski
wrote:
> OK, but this is means that we painted ourselves in the corner---something is
> wrong if my Android phone, which I don't have to reboot for updates, has
> higher uptime than my computer.
Right, we certainly have. By not having an OS / app lay
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Przemek Klosowski
wrote:
> On 09/16/2014 06:33 AM, Richard Hughes wrote:
>
> I've triaged many bugs to do with online and offline update failures, and
> if we're going to say that we actually care about the users data, it becomes
> increasingly hard to defend the
Hi,
I missed the memo about it not being a fatal error now (rpmlint still tells it
is an error), but just in case, before attempting to enforce it a
package review,
I checked what I have right now in my rawhide box...
$ for f in /usr/bin/*; do file $f | grep -q ELF && chrpath -l $f |
grep -v
Dear all,
I have updated rubygem-uuidtools from version 2.1.3 to version 2.1.5 and
noticed the license change from MIT to ASL 2.0.
Regards,
Vít
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On 09/16/2014 06:33 AM, Richard Hughes wrote:
I've triaged many bugs to do with online and offline update failures,
and if we're going to say that we actually care about the users data,
it becomes increasingly hard to defend the "old" way of doing it. I'm
sure I could find numerous bugs numbers
On 09/16/2014 01:34 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Proposed Self Contained Change: BIND version 9.10 =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BIND_9.10
>
> Change owner(s): Tomas Hozza
>
> BIND (Berkeley Internet Name Domain) version 9.10 is the latest stable major
> update of the widely use
= Proposed Self Contained Change: BIND version 9.10 =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BIND_9.10
Change owner(s): Tomas Hozza
BIND (Berkeley Internet Name Domain) version 9.10 is the latest stable major
update of the widely used DNS server. Besides new features, some settings
defaults h
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On 16 September 2014 11:26, Reindl Harald wrote:
> and the other side of the story are some hundret dist-upgrades i
> made in the past years with YUM (in a screen session for safety)
> while just continue to browse the web and read / answer email
So you're saying my technical analysis is incorrec
Am 16.09.2014 um 12:21 schrieb Richard Hughes:
> On 16 September 2014 10:55, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
>> Just a thought - but wouldn't be better spend time to enlighten
>> Gnome/Firefox developers how to write applications in a way the could be
>> upgraded runtime
>
> So, it's not just the applicat
On 16 September 2014 10:55, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
> Just a thought - but wouldn't be better spend time to enlighten
> Gnome/Firefox developers how to write applications in a way the could be
> upgraded runtime
So, it's not just the application, it's every application and D-Bus
service the applica
Dne 16.9.2014 v 11:48 Richard Hughes napsal(a):
On 16 September 2014 10:36, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
If applications would just use libraries correctly, the kernel
would be able to let parts of deleted files be available for lazy
loading.
Sure, as long as all[1] the resources were either open()d
On 16 September 2014 10:36, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> If applications would just use libraries correctly, the kernel
> would be able to let parts of deleted files be available for lazy
> loading.
Sure, as long as all[1] the resources were either open()d when the
user started the program, or linked
On 09/12/2014 05:47 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
> That's just not safe. Have you ever had firefox open and done a
> firefox update? Widgets start disappearing, redraws start having weird
> artifects and then after a little while it just crashes. Other
> applications like LibreOffice behave the same.
Am 16.09.2014 um 10:50 schrieb Richard Hughes:
> On 15 September 2014 13:06, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>> But *I* do not want to reboot after each upgrade. Those crashes will be
>> 0.1% of all crashes on my workstation
>
> I think you might change your mind when it's you're the one that has
> to
On 15 September 2014 13:06, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> But *I* do not want to reboot after each upgrade. Those crashes will be
> 0.1% of all crashes on my workstation
I think you might change your mind when it's you're the one that has
to triage those ABRT-reported bugs. Also, consoling users wi
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