Re: f21 Mass rebuild, freeze, and other status

2014-08-20 Thread Dan Horák
On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:27:39 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Just thought I would drop a quick note to the list about the status of > various things, at least as I know them. ;) > > First, astute readers will note that we were scheduled to go into > freeze for f21 yesterday and that we didn't do so.

Re: Mono3.4 in Fedora 21, or troll?

2014-08-20 Thread Christopher Meng
I haven't seen any efforts from Claudio or whosoever to rebuild all mono packages (it's a MUST as Mono is not a _small_ package, he could use koji or his personal computer to do that) and feedback the results (most of status from the change page are "Need Test", I think it's nonsense and ridiculous

Re: build failures on rawhide [PATCH]

2014-08-20 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 08:33:55PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > Hi All: > > I'd like to point out that there are images/livecd's that are failing to > build for rawhide[1]. With the change in /etc/resolv.conf handling the > builds are now failing with "IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:

build failures on rawhide [PATCH]

2014-08-20 Thread Jerry Vonau
Hi All: I'd like to point out that there are images/livecd's that are failing to build for rawhide[1]. With the change in /etc/resolv.conf handling the builds are now failing with "IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/tmp/imgcreate-ChCMoB/install_root/etc/resolv.conf'" Looking the c

taking python-elixir (was Re: Some orphaned packages)

2014-08-20 Thread Dan Callaghan
Excerpts from Toshio Kuratomi's message of 2014-08-15 03:01 +10:00: > python-elixir => (orphan Fedora devel, Fedora 21, Fedora 20, Fedora > 19, Fedora EPEL 5) I will take this one, in order to keep the TurboGears1 stack alive. If anyone is actually using it, or is interested in helping maintain

f21 Mass rebuild, freeze, and other status

2014-08-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Just thought I would drop a quick note to the list about the status of various things, at least as I know them. ;) First, astute readers will note that we were scheduled to go into freeze for f21 yesterday and that we didn't do so. This was discussed at the FESCo meeting today and we decided to g

Re: Mono3.4 in Fedora 21, or troll?

2014-08-20 Thread Christopher Meng
On Aug 21, 2014 2:09 AM, "Dan Horák" wrote: > please be aware that updating the mono packages is only first step, the > maintainer should put reasonable effort into ensuring the rest of the > mono stack also builds after such major rebase That's what I'm concerned about. -- devel mailing list de

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-08-20)

2014-08-20 Thread Tomas Hozza
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-08-20) === Meeting started by thozza at 17:04:28 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-08-20/fesco.2014-08-20-17.04.log.html . Meeting summary ---

Re: Mono3.4 in Fedora 21, or troll?

2014-08-20 Thread Ismael Olea
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Claudio Rodrigo wrote: > I need help to became packager, I talk with Xavier Lamien to sponsor me. > But he is busy. > I want see mono 3.4 in fedora officially. It is a great goal. > Additional I was father last week. > Congratulations!!! > Anyone who want help

Re: Mono3.4 in Fedora 21, or troll?

2014-08-20 Thread Dan Horák
On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:38:09 -0300 Claudio Rodrigo wrote: > I need help to became packager, I talk with Xavier Lamien to sponsor > me. But he is busy. > I want see mono 3.4 in fedora officially. It is a great goal. > Additional I was father last week. > > If someone sponsor my first package I wi

Re: Mono3.4 in Fedora 21, or troll?

2014-08-20 Thread Ismael Olea
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Christopher Meng wrote: > Hi, > > Can someone tell me the status of the mono 3.4 proposal? I contacted chkr > last year and he said it's a big task. He didn't say anything about the > feature although the mono package is obsolete already. And I don't know why > 3

Re: FESCo #1263 question (optional javadocs)

2014-08-20 Thread Christopher
As a hypothetical, I was mainly concerned about backporting a new F21 java package as a F20 update to make it available to users still on that version, and whether that would require javadocs. Just in case, I've added a "%if 0%{fedora} < 21" condition for javadocs, and the appropriate Obsoletes lin

Re: D-Bus RPM Provides?

2014-08-20 Thread Richard Hughes
On 20 August 2014 14:59, Adam Jackson wrote: > I think it would be worthwhile, yes. The question of how to enumerate > the dbus services in the OS has come up before, and it's lame that we > don't try to track it. This is something I needed to do for the AppStream metadata; code available here:

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2014-08-20)

2014-08-20 Thread Matthew Miller
I'm afraid I'm likely to miss this one too -- lots of crazy busy stuff going on _in addition_ to the expected insanity of being at LinuxCon. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedo

Re: appdata questions

2014-08-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-08-20 at 15:42 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: > why do we penalize users by hiding contents from them when some > upstream > just doesn't care about this stuff? (see also comment 7 about the > "unjust > burden")? To clarify, the goal is not to penalize users: quite the opposite. We want

Re: appdata questions

2014-08-20 Thread Richard Hughes
On 20 August 2014 14:42, Karel Volný wrote: > 1) Why not to take the information from the .desktop file by default and use > appdata.xml only if the author/packager wants to provide additional > information that cannot be in the .desktop file? That's what we do. Some data can't go in the .desktop

Re: D-Bus RPM Provides?

2014-08-20 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2014-08-20 at 13:04 +, Petr Pisar wrote: > I discovered that many org.freedesktop.Notifications server packages > provide `desktop-notification-daemon' RPM symbol. I think it would be > much better if the dependency was expressed as, e.g., > `dbus(org.freedesktop.Notifications)'. It wo

rawhide report: 20140820 changes

2014-08-20 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Broken deps for i386 -- [APLpy] APLpy-0.9.8-5.fc21.noarch requires pywcs [PyKDE] PyKDE-3.16.6-14.fc20.i686 requires sip-api(10) >= 0:10.0 [audtty] audtty-0.1.12-9.fc20.i686 requires libaudclient.so.2 [authhub] a

appdata questions

2014-08-20 Thread Karel Volný
Hi. I have a few concerns about AppData that don't seem to be covered elsewhere, or at least I haven't found the answers - not counting Richard's talk[1], as I gave up after five minutes, because I just couldn't get used to the accent ... sorry, I'm not native speaker, this was just too exhau

[Test-Announce] 2014-08-20 @ 16:00 UTC ** F21 Blocker Bug Review

2014-08-20 Thread Kamil Paral
# F21 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2014-08-20 # Time: 16:00 UTC (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT) # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net It's the time again for another blocker bug meeting, and it's happening today! At the moment there are 3 proposed blockers and 1 proposed freeze exception

D-Bus RPM Provides?

2014-08-20 Thread Petr Pisar
Hello, I've no experience with packaging desktop software so maybe my question will be stupid. I'm updating a package which, when running tests, uses libnotify library to send a notification to a desktop environment. The library uses D-Bus to route the notification to org.freedesktop.Notification

Re: is there a way to view a spec file?

2014-08-20 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Neal Becker wrote: >> Something like github for fedora, where I can view/dl arbitrary files? I'd >> like >> to be able to view a spec file for any given package, without d/l the whole >> package. > > Ce

F-21 Branched report: 20140820 changes

2014-08-20 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Aug 20 07:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [APLpy] APLpy-0.9.8-5.fc21.noarch requires pywcs [PyKDE] PyKDE-3.16.6-14.fc20.armv7hl requires sip-api(10) >= 0:10.0 [audtty] audtty-0.1.12-9.fc

Re: FESCo #1263 question (optional javadocs)

2014-08-20 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Hello, > Regarding https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1263 > Does this policy change affect updates to older releases still receiving > updates? Or only F21 and later? It has been approved as a F21 Change, so it should affect only F≥21. Technically, the packaging guideline change is somewha

Re: is there a way to view a spec file?

2014-08-20 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > Something like github for fedora, where I can view/dl arbitrary files? I'd > like > to be able to view a spec file for any given package, without d/l the whole > package. CentOS is doing something like this at https://git.centos.org. Unfortu

Re: Mono3.4 in Fedora 21, or troll?

2014-08-20 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Wed, 2014-08-20 at 18:54 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > Hi, > > Can someone tell me the status of the mono 3.4 proposal? I contacted > chkr last year and he said it's a big task. He didn't say anything > about the feature although the mono package is obsolete already. And I > don't know why

Mono3.4 in Fedora 21, or troll?

2014-08-20 Thread Christopher Meng
Hi, Can someone tell me the status of the mono 3.4 proposal? I contacted chkr last year and he said it's a big task. He didn't say anything about the feature although the mono package is obsolete already. And I don't know why 3.4 was proposed by a stranger this year again(someone is not even a pac