Re: Rawhide users: ceph packaging issues

2014-07-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 15:36:41 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 15:34 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: so, yeah, bit of a mess. You can probably get onto the 0.81.0-5 packages manually with a bit of judicious --nodeps use or 'yum shell' use, but it'd be best if the packages

Re: (Rawhide users) Fedora 22 branching: What You Need To Know

2014-07-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 16:00 -0700, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > I'm ready to start my application testing on a Fedora 21 virtual > machine. What's the quickest way for me to get one built? Is there a > 'net install' ISO file somewhere I can use? https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/dev

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 09:05:29AM +0930, William wrote: > > Thank you both for your response. It's appreciated. > > > > > > > * Files in systemd's sysusers configuration directory will be used as a > > > data source to create /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow. > > > > Also, /etc/group and /etc/gsha

touchpad event data requested - palm detection

2014-07-10 Thread Peter Hutterer
We're currently working on a number of things to improve input devices in libinput - the future input stack for wayland developers. What we need is data to base our assumptions on, so I'm hereby asking the list to provide some. If you don't have a touchpad, please disregard this email. If you're o

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-10 Thread William
On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 08:35 -0700, Colin Walters wrote: > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014, at 05:42 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > > Two examples from the top of my head: > > > * Some tftpd implementations use it as the base path (and chroot into it) > > > * Some anonymous ftpd implementation have s

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-10 Thread William
Thank you both for your response. It's appreciated. > > > > * Files in systemd's sysusers configuration directory will be used as a > > data source to create /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow. > > Also, /etc/group and /etc/gshadow. > > > Under what conditions are these two files created / touched?

Re: (Rawhide users) Fedora 22 branching: What You Need To Know

2014-07-10 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
I'm ready to start my application testing on a Fedora 21 virtual machine. What's the quickest way for me to get one built? Is there a 'net install' ISO file somewhere I can use? On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:38 AM, poma wrote: > On 10.07.2014 18:31, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGN

Re: Rawhide users: ceph packaging issues

2014-07-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 15:34 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > so, yeah, bit of a mess. You can probably get onto the 0.81.0-5 packages > manually with a bit of judicious --nodeps use or 'yum shell' use, but > it'd be best if the packages were fixed up, and I figured I'd let folks > know about the pr

Rawhide users: ceph packaging issues

2014-07-10 Thread Adam Williamson
I just thought it'd be good to alert Fedora 21 and 22 users to this issue. Some major changes were introduced to the 'ceph' package in the 0.81.0-3 build, and maintained in the 0.81.0-4 build. These builds were done for all current releases, but not submitted as updates to any stable release, so l

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED][FINAL NOTICE] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v4

2014-07-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 12:35 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 10:19:52PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > ddclient seems to have been retired apparently as a part of this > > > process, going by the commit: > > > > http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ddclient.git/commit/?id=f74143

empty .bash_history

2014-07-10 Thread Felix Miata
I've a system that's zeroing out .bash_history at every reboot. Is this happening to everyone? Intended? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

Re: (Rawhide users) Fedora 22 branching: What You Need To Know

2014-07-10 Thread poma
On 10.07.2014 18:31, Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2014 11:45 AM, poma wrote: On 10.07.2014 13:11, Stephen Gallagher wrote: One thing I discovered last night. There's a bug with the new fedora-release packages and yum/dnf are kind of arbitrari

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 10.07.14 12:44, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote: > On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 17:18 +0200, Jakub Hrozek wrote: > > We /do/ plan on the syncing anyway, because some admins are > > still used to vipw their passwd databases and there are legacy scripts > > around, but still -- could we, when t

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-10 Thread Jakub Hrozek
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:44:29PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 17:18 +0200, Jakub Hrozek wrote: > > We /do/ plan on the syncing anyway, because some admins are > > still used to vipw their passwd databases and there are legacy scripts > > around, but still -- could we, when th

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-10 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 17:18 +0200, Jakub Hrozek wrote: > We /do/ plan on the syncing anyway, because some admins are > still used to vipw their passwd databases and there are legacy scripts > around, but still -- could we, when the SSSD interface is available, > call out from systemd-sysusers to t

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2014 12:45 PM, Michal Schmidt wrote: > On 07/10/2014 04:34 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> Basically, in order to swap out the productized and >> non-productized release packages, it's not actually as simple as >> 'yum swap fedora-release-stan

Re: F-21 Branched report: 20140710 changes

2014-07-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:25:48 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: We will get mash fixed today and tomorrow rawhide should return to normal. Thanks for taking care of this and the updates/updates-testing repos. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-10 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/10/2014 04:34 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Basically, in order to swap out the productized and non-productized > release packages, it's not actually as simple as 'yum swap > fedora-release-standard fedora-release-server'. The way the dependency > processing works in yum and dnf will general

Re: (Rawhide users) Fedora 22 branching: What You Need To Know

2014-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2014 11:45 AM, poma wrote: > On 10.07.2014 13:11, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> One thing I discovered last night. There's a bug with the new >> fedora-release packages and yum/dnf are kind of arbitrarily >> picking from fedora-release-[stan

Re: F-21 Branched report: 20140710 changes

2014-07-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 10:03:05 -0500 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Are we going to have empty updates and updates-testing repos for > branched this time around? This affects the spin-kickstarts package > (and possibly the release packages) as normally we want updates > enabled, but if there isn't going

Re: F-21 Branched report: 20140710 changes

2014-07-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:18:23 -0500 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Another thing that seems odd today is that no rpms in this morning's > rawhide repo have fc22 in their names. I would have expected this > morning's build to have started enough after branching to pick up at > least a few fc22 builds.

Re: F-21 Branched report: 20140710 changes

2014-07-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
Another thing that seems odd today is that no rpms in this morning's rawhide repo have fc22 in their names. I would have expected this morning's build to have started enough after branching to pick up at least a few fc22 builds. I'll be more worried if this persists in tomorrow's rawhide, but

Re: rawhide report: 20140710 changes

2014-07-10 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: > sssd-1.12.0-1.fc21 > -- > * Wed Jul 09 2014 Jakub Hrozek - 1.12.0-1 > - New upstream release 1.12.0 > - https://fedorahosted.org/sssd/wiki/Releases/Notes-1.12.0 The previous version was 1.12.0-4.fc21.beta2. $ rpmdev

Re: (Rawhide users) Fedora 22 branching: What You Need To Know

2014-07-10 Thread poma
On 10.07.2014 13:11, Stephen Gallagher wrote: One thing I discovered last night. There's a bug with the new fedora-release packages and yum/dnf are kind of arbitrarily picking from fedora-release-[standard|cloud|server|workstation] to install if you just update. (This is in large part because th

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-10 Thread Kalev Lember
On 07/10/2014 05:22 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 07:04:21AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >>> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/server-wg/server-wg.2014-02-25-16.00.html >> That's why I said the *specific* netinstall he was asking for. The >> Fedora Server netinstall w

Re: Comps group for Fedora Audio Spin packages

2014-07-10 Thread Corey Sheldon
I'd be game Corey W Sheldon Owner, 1st Class Mobile Shine 310.909.7672 www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: > Hi all, > > does anyone have any objection to a new comps group containing packages > currently present in the Fedora Jam audio

Comps group for Fedora Audio Spin packages

2014-07-10 Thread Brendan Jones
Hi all, does anyone have any objection to a new comps group containing packages currently present in the Fedora Jam audio spin? We will be discussing names further within the music creation SIG / fedora-music mailing list soon, but Audio Production or Music Creation are two that immediately

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-10 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014, at 05:42 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > Two examples from the top of my head: > > * Some tftpd implementations use it as the base path (and chroot into it) > > * Some anonymous ftpd implementation have similar use (chroot into ~ftp) But these aren't really usable with

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 07:04:21AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/server-wg/server-wg.2014-02-25-16.00.html > That's why I said the *specific* netinstall he was asking for. The > Fedora Server netinstall wouldn't be producing a non-productized > result, w

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-10 Thread Jakub Hrozek
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 10:30:27AM -0400, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > - Original Message - > > Hi, for Atomic I'd like to investigate the new systemd-sysusers, so I > > wrote up a Change: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SystemdSysusers > > A move to something more declarative m

Re: (Rawhide users) Fedora 22 branching: What You Need To Know

2014-07-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 23:37:39 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: sudo yum-config-manager --enable fedora and, optionally, enable updates-testing: sudo yum-config-manager --enable updates-testing The updates-testing repo isn't there yet. I am hoping we get empty repos created for both update

Re: F-21 Branched report: 20140710 changes

2014-07-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
Are we going to have empty updates and updates-testing repos for branched this time around? This affects the spin-kickstarts package (and possibly the release packages) as normally we want updates enabled, but if there isn't going to be an updates repo for a while, then we'll need to disable it

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2014 09:53 AM, Mike Pinkerton wrote: > > On 10 Jul 2014, at 07:04, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 07/09/2014 05:08 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 04:42:23PM -0400,

Upgrade OpenSceneGraph to 3.2.1

2014-07-10 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, I intend to upgrade OpenSceneGraph to 3.2.1 (Jul 4th) on rawhide. This change will introduce SONAME bumps in OpenSceneGraph-provided libraries and thus is likely to introduce broken package dependencies. I intend to take care about these and to launch rebuilds where necessary. Depending

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-10 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On 10 Jul 2014, at 07:04, Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/09/2014 05:08 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 04:42:23PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: I do not know which or if any Spins will be providing the specific net install CD

Re: kde-4.13.x update for f20

2014-07-10 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qui, 2014-07-10 at 15:18 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 10.07.2014 15:15, schrieb Sérgio Basto: > > On Sex, 2014-07-04 at 12:12 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Am 04.07.2014 12:02, schrieb Sérgio Basto: > >>> http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/kde.repo > >>> have 3 repos is

[Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 11 July 2014 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

2014-07-10 Thread Phil Knirsch
Agenda: - Introduction of Benedikt Morbach, intern working on buildreq reduction (and potential other stuff if time permits ;)) - Talk with Michal Sekletar as candidate for WG - Vaclav Pavlin presenting minimal Docker image for Fedora (133MB) - Open floor Thanks & regards, Phil -- Philipp

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-07-10 16:00 UTC)

2014-07-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:31 PM, James Antill wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC > meeting Thursday at 2014-07-10 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on > irc.freenode.net. > > > For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The > report of t

Re: kde-4.13.x update for f20

2014-07-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.07.2014 15:15, schrieb Sérgio Basto: > On Sex, 2014-07-04 at 12:12 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 04.07.2014 12:02, schrieb Sérgio Basto: >>> http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/kde.repo >>> have 3 repos is to use kde stable ? this will equal to future Fedora >>> 20 , with k

Re: kde-4.13.x update for f20

2014-07-10 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sex, 2014-07-04 at 12:12 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 04.07.2014 12:02, schrieb Sérgio Basto: > > http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/kde.repo > > have 3 repos is to use kde stable ? this will equal to future Fedora > > 20 , with kde 13 , many years ago I try use kde-redhat and

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 10.07.14 17:16, William (will...@firstyear.id.au) wrote: > On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 08:17 +0300, Oron Peled wrote: > > A non-API related question... > > > > > Generally, I prefer the explicit systemd settings over home directory > > with "magical" effects, but I wonder if anyone is aware of

Re: [Base] The Base Design WG is looking for a new committee member!

2014-07-10 Thread Michal Sekletar
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:00:12AM +0200, Phil Knirsch wrote: > Ups, seems i'm living in the future already. :) > > Meeting is of course on Friday, not Thursday, so hope to see you > there tomorrow! Sure, will be there. > > Thanks & regards, Phil Michal > > On 07/09/2014 05:23 PM, Phil Knir

Re: pulseaudio-5.0-6.fc20: fine but not on bodhi

2014-07-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.07.2014 14:30, schrieb Rex Dieter: > Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Am 08.07.2014 21:38, schrieb Rex Dieter: >>> Reindl Harald wrote: >>> until now https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=542357 for whatever reason did it not make to bodhi - >>> >>> it was submitted early

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 10.07.14 08:17, Oron Peled (o...@actcom.co.il) wrote: > > > A non-API related question... > > On Thursday 10 July 2014 01:49:41 Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Please understand that we are not duplicating "adduser" here. Already in > > the name of the tool we wanted to make clear thtat t

Re: pulseaudio-5.0-6.fc20: fine but not on bodhi

2014-07-10 Thread Rex Dieter
Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 08.07.2014 21:38, schrieb Rex Dieter: >> Reindl Harald wrote: >> >>> until now https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=542357 >>> for whatever reason did it not make to bodhi - >> >> it was submitted early today, >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/

Re: (Rawhide users) Fedora 22 branching: What You Need To Know

2014-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2014 02:37 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hey folks! As we just hit a branch point, here's a refresher on > what this means for folks who've been running Rawhide. > > If you want to keep running Rawhide, which will now contain > packages tracke

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/09/2014 05:08 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 04:42:23PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> I do not know which or if any Spins will be providing the >> specific net install CD you're asking about. This will not be an >> *offi

F-21 Branched report: 20140710 changes

2014-07-10 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Thu Jul 10 07:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [APLpy] APLpy-0.9.8-5.fc21.noarch requires pywcs [PyKDE] PyKDE-3.16.6-14.fc20.armv7hl requires sip-api(10) >= 0:10.0 [audtty] audtty-0.1.12-9.fc

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED][FINAL NOTICE] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v4

2014-07-10 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 10:19:52PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > ddclient seems to have been retired apparently as a part of this > process, going by the commit: > > http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ddclient.git/commit/?id=f741436ca38fd6c36ffbfbb26b3131b278657faa > > but it wasn't listed in

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-10 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014, at 12:46 AM, William wrote: > Under what conditions are these two files created / touched? When systemd-sysusers is run. > When I install a package and add a file to this sysuser directory, is > only that user added to passwd and shadow? The answer to this is pretty simp

cross-gcc is updated to gcc-4.9.0 in updates-testing for F19+

2014-07-10 Thread David Howells
So anyone that is using it to build their own packages, if you could check it in the next three weeks. David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: [Base] The Base Design WG is looking for a new committee member!

2014-07-10 Thread Phil Knirsch
Ups, seems i'm living in the future already. :) Meeting is of course on Friday, not Thursday, so hope to see you there tomorrow! Thanks & regards, Phil On 07/09/2014 05:23 PM, Phil Knirsch wrote: That sounds great Michal. If you could join us tomorrow at our meeting at 15:00 UTC on #fedora-m

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-10 Thread William
On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 08:17 +0300, Oron Peled wrote: > A non-API related question... > > Generally, I prefer the explicit systemd settings over home directory > with "magical" effects, but I wonder if anyone is aware of existing > system users which carry more complex semantics. Perhaps look at

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.07.2014 09:37, schrieb Al Dunsmuir: > On Wednesday, July 9, 2014, 1:24:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 09.07.2014 19:18, schrieb Chris Adams: >>> Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said: >>> Please, no! As soon as you use disparate systems in a network >>> environment, having differin

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-10 Thread Al Dunsmuir
On Wednesday, July 9, 2014, 1:24:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 09.07.2014 19:18, schrieb Chris Adams: >> Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said: >> Please, no! As soon as you use disparate systems in a network >> environment, having differing versions of UID_MIN (where recompilation >> is r