On Mon, 2014-01-06 at 00:43 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 22:52 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2014-01-02 at 23:32 +0100, Jean François Martinez wrote:
> >>> I have a nice booter setup and a nice _main_ Lin
On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 22:52 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Thu, 2014-01-02 at 23:32 +0100, Jean François Martinez wrote:
>>> I have a nice booter setup and a nice _main_ Linux installation. Last
>>> thing I would want is a distribution
On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:27 PM, Jean François Martinez wrote:
> This is not the problem. THe problem is: a user of another distribution
> will not want to touch Fedora with a ten foot pole pnce he discovers Fedora
> messe up with his booter setup. And the parttitionner is equally bad. These
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2014-01-06
# Time: 16:00 UTC
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto)
# Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net
Greetings testers!
It's meeting time again soon! Still not an awful lot on the agenda that
I can see, to be honest, I th
On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 23:13 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> I don't see what needs elaborating. I'm not aware that the 11th
> commandment is "Every Subcommand Must Be Documented, Even Ones You Just
> Put In So People Still Using Syntax From The Old Tool You're Replacing
> Won't Have A Problem". If
On Mon, 2014-01-06 at 08:01 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> On 01/06/2014 12:46 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 19:24 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> ...
> >> As I mentioned before I only auto completed yum, remove is not party of
> >> the auto completed commands. If remo
On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 22:52 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-01-02 at 23:32 +0100, Jean François Martinez wrote:
> > I have a nice booter setup and a nice _main_ Linux installation. Last
> > thing I would want is a distribution I am _testing_, that is Fedora 20
> > forces on me it will
On 01/06/2014 12:46 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 19:24 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
...
As I mentioned before I only auto completed yum, remove is not party of
the auto completed commands. If remove should be there, then this is a
bug. I will file one.
dnf has no auto c
On 01/05/2014 11:53 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said:
where would it be useful to uninstall base-package and YUM/DNF itself
bringing your system in a non-recoverable state?
I already offered a couple of examples that you ignored (just a couple
that came to mind, cer
On Thu, 2014-01-02 at 23:32 +0100, Jean François Martinez wrote:
> I have a nice booter setup and a nice _main_ Linux installation. Last
> thing I would want is a distribution I am _testing_, that is Fedora 20
> forces on me it will be my main installation and forces me to choose
> between install
On Mon, 2014-01-06 at 02:33 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 06.01.2014 02:12, schrieb Chris Adams:
> > Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said:
> >> border cases where you can use --nodeps
> >
> > What does --nodeps have to do with this?
>
> border cases are not usual behavior?
His point was t
This is not the problem. THe problem is: a user of another distribution will
not want to touch Fedora with a ten foot pole pnce he discovers Fedora messe up
with his booter setup. And the parttitionner is equally bad. These are two
areas a distribution not only in the area of bugs but in the
On 2014-01-02 16:38, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
[Third try to send this email. The Gmail Android app has a lovely UI
to select the sender address, but it doesn't do anything :(.]
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Garrett Holmstrom
wrote:
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
On 01/05/2014 11:54 AM, Sergio Pascual wrote:
> Orion, is it possible that you missed h5py? We are getting this
>
>
>1. Warning! ***HDF5 library version mismatched error***
>2. The HDF5 header files used to compile this application do not match
>3. the version used by the HDF5 library
Am 06.01.2014 02:12, schrieb Chris Adams:
> Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said:
>> border cases where you can use --nodeps
>
> What does --nodeps have to do with this?
border cases are not usual behavior?
>> this is *really* a border case where download and "rpm -Uvh --force"
>> is the way
Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said:
> border cases where you can use --nodeps
What does --nodeps have to do with this?
> this is *really* a border case where download and "rpm -Uvh --force"
> is the way to go
No, you should do it correctly. First, AFAIK rpm doesn't have the magic
kernel beha
Hi,
I am Tom Hodder, long time fedora user, ex-RHCE, and "tolland" on IRC.
I noticed that ghemical was listed as an orphaned package, and I had an
email chat with the previous maintainer, and he suggested that there are
some updates pending in upstream. However he was too busy to continue as
main
On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 19:24 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> On 01/05/2014 07:07 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 10:04 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >> On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 10:27 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> ...
> >>> The running kernel should not be removed with a s
Am 05.01.2014 23:53, schrieb Chris Adams:
> Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said:
>> where would it be useful to uninstall base-package and YUM/DNF itself
>> bringing your system in a non-recoverable state?
>
> I already offered a couple of examples that you ignored (just a couple
> that came t
Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said:
> where would it be useful to uninstall base-package and YUM/DNF itself
> bringing your system in a non-recoverable state?
I already offered a couple of examples that you ignored (just a couple
that came to mind, certainly not an exhaustive list): when you ha
Am 05.01.2014 23:33, schrieb Chris Adams:
> Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said:
>> i say the same thing to the autopager and cutted output of
>> systemctl and journalctl and the repsonse there is "we are
>> not Unix, we are Linux"
>
> Yeah, I dislike that as well. If I want paged output, I'l
Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said:
> i say the same thing to the autopager and cutted output of
> systemctl and journalctl and the repsonse there is "we are
> not Unix, we are Linux"
Yeah, I dislike that as well. If I want paged output, I'll page it; if
I want cut output, I'll cut it. The "h
On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 01:06:16PM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said:
> > http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html#dnf-erase-kernel-deletes-all-packages-called-kernel
>
> Frankly, that's a dumb "feature" to have the package manager know
> "magic" things about s
Thank you :-)
I'm also developing it (https://github.com/BroukPytlik/RdRand).
ReadMe still needs to be filled with reasonable texts, I have to copy it from
man pages (why write the same things twice). :-)
About the security concerns... I have done some statistical testing of it
(PractRand, Te
I uploaded a new version of the efl srpm that patches configure directly
to look for the correct tslib pkg-config and removes the call to
autogen. Also corrects a cut & paste error I made that erroneously
included libemotion in the ephysics package.
http://www.lorez.org/enlightenment/efl-1.8.3
Welcome in Fedora :)
Out of curiosity, are you only packaging it or also developing it ?
Anyway, it will be a useful library (no trolling about the rdrand
instruction ;))
Best regards,
H.
Le 5 janv. 2014 21:14, "Jan Tulak" a écrit :
> Hi all
>
> I'm an IT university student. With Fedora I have
On 01/04/2014 03:09 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sat, 2014-01-04 at 10:50 +0100, Mattia Verga wrote:
This is the first time I heard of DNF.
Looking at the page where differences between DNF and yum are
explained (http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html) my question
is: do we really need D
Hi all
I'm an IT university student. With Fedora I have a total experience about half
a year, my primary distribution is Archlinux (about four or five years
experience).
Currently, I'm preparing a Fedora package as part of my bachelor thesis:
A library for RdRand (the instruction used in Ivy B
Am 05.01.2014 20:06, schrieb Chris Adams:
> Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said:
>> http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html#dnf-erase-kernel-deletes-all-packages-called-kernel
>
> Frankly, that's a dumb "feature" to have the package manager know
> "magic" things about some names. Why is
Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said:
> http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html#dnf-erase-kernel-deletes-all-packages-called-kernel
Frankly, that's a dumb "feature" to have the package manager know
"magic" things about some names. Why is it dumb? Because some people
then depend on magic "
Orion, is it possible that you missed h5py? We are getting this
1. Warning! ***HDF5 library version mismatched error***
2. The HDF5 header files used to compile this application do not match
3. the version used by the HDF5 library to which this application is
linked.
4. Data corrup
On 2014-01-05 19:24, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 01/05/2014 07:07 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 10:04 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 10:27 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
...
The running kernel should not be removed with a simple 'dnf erase
kernel' (w
A solution may be for someone to write a plugin that restores the
protected packages feature.
Fedora users are clearly used to such a feature and expect it while
upstream doesnt want to add hand holding features, but provide a
method to do the same.
On 5 January 2014 18:32, Lars E. Pettersson wr
On 01/05/2014 07:24 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
As I mentioned before I only auto completed yum, remove is not party of
the auto completed commands. If remove should be there, then this is a
bug. I will file one.
Pressed send a bit too early. Should of course be 'erase' here, not
'remove'...
On 01/05/2014 07:07 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 10:04 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 10:27 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
...
The running kernel should not be removed with a simple 'dnf erase
kernel' (why did they change remove into erase?),
They d
Am 05.01.2014 19:07, schrieb Adam Williamson:
> On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 10:04 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 10:27 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
>>> On 01/05/2014 09:23 AM, Mattia Verga wrote:
They really want to make dnf work this way.
This is explained here:
>
On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 10:04 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 10:27 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> > On 01/05/2014 09:23 AM, Mattia Verga wrote:
> > > They really want to make dnf work this way.
> > > This is explained here:
> > > http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.htm
On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 12:34 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 05.01.2014 12:21, schrieb Frank Murphy:
> > On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 12:16:36 +0100
> > "Lars E. Pettersson" wrote:
> >
> >> Ah, did not know that, if you try to auto complete yum only remove
> >> shows up, but erase also works. So perhap
On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 10:27 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> On 01/05/2014 09:23 AM, Mattia Verga wrote:
> > They really want to make dnf work this way.
> > This is explained here:
> > http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html#dnf-erase-kernel-deletes-all-packages-called-kernel
>
> Yes, I ha
The autogen thing was because I patched configure.ac to look for the
pkg-config name for tslib as tslib-0.0 (as shipped in Fedora). Which
means configure needed to be regenerated. I guess an alternative would
be to patch configure directly, but eh... :)
On 01/05/2014 04:02 AM, Dan Mashal wrote
On 05.01.2014 04:29, Bob Richmond wrote:
I have no desire to become a package maintainer for Enlightenment, but I
Even in this case, after the hard work already done by you, now it is
possible binaries be delivered to the end users - Are you aware of the
new COPR [1] service?
After repo cre
On 01/02/2014 05:32 PM, Jean François Martinez wrote:
I have a nice booter setup and a nice _main_ Linux installation. Last thing I
would want is a distribution I am _testing_, that is Fedora 20 forces on me it
will be my main installation and forces me to choose between installing Grub on
th
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Bob Richmond wrote:
>> No, the EFL is distributed as one big tarball now. All the old releases
>> could be found here:
>>
>> http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/
>>
>> Starting with 1.8.0, they're distribut
Compose started at Sun Jan 5 05:15:02 UTC 2014
Broken deps for i386
--
[OpenEXR_CTL]
OpenEXR_CTL-1.0.1-16.fc20.i686 requires libImath.so.6
OpenEXR_CTL-1.0.1-16.fc20.i686 requires libIlmThread.so.6
OpenEXR_CTL-1.0.1-16
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Bob Richmond wrote:
> No, the EFL is distributed as one big tarball now. All the old releases
> could be found here:
>
> http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/
>
> Starting with 1.8.0, they're distributed in:
>
> http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/libs/efl/
Am 05.01.2014 12:21, schrieb Frank Murphy:
> On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 12:16:36 +0100
> "Lars E. Pettersson" wrote:
>
>> Ah, did not know that, if you try to auto complete yum only remove
>> shows up, but erase also works. So perhaps erase was an afterthought,
>> to mimic the rpm behavior. If rpm has
On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 12:16:36 +0100
"Lars E. Pettersson" wrote:
> Ah, did not know that, if you try to auto complete yum only remove
> shows up, but erase also works. So perhaps erase was an afterthought,
> to mimic the rpm behavior. If rpm has erase, and yum also can use
> erase, perhaps erase is
On 01/05/2014 12:02 PM, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote:
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 01/05/2014 09:23 AM, Mattia Verga wrote:
why did they change remove into erase?
Yum actually offers both erase and remove for the same purpose. I
don't know which is an alias of t
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> On 01/05/2014 09:23 AM, Mattia Verga wrote:
>>
> why did they change remove into erase?
Yum actually offers both erase and remove for the same purpose. I
don't know which is an alias of the other, but rpm uses erase.
From the man page:
Il 05/01/2014 10:27, Lars E. Pettersson ha scritto:
Yes, I have read that, but (strongly) disagree.
I agree in your disagreement! ;-)
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On 01/05/2014 09:23 AM, Mattia Verga wrote:
They really want to make dnf work this way.
This is explained here:
http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html#dnf-erase-kernel-deletes-all-packages-called-kernel
Yes, I have read that, but (strongly) disagree.
The running kernel should not be rem
Am 05.01.2014 09:40, schrieb Reindl Harald:
>> They really want to make dnf work this way.
>> This is explained here:
>> http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html#dnf-erase-kernel-deletes-all-packages-called-kernel
>
> and that is clearly a regression
>
> how likely is that somebody want to
Am 05.01.2014 09:23, schrieb Mattia Verga:
>
> Il 05/01/2014 00:13, Adam Williamson ha scritto:
>> On Sat, 2014-01-04 at 21:41 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote:
>>> On 2014-01-04 21:31, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 01/04/2014 08:56 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> * yum remove kernel vs dnf remove k
Il 05/01/2014 00:13, Adam Williamson ha scritto:
On Sat, 2014-01-04 at 21:41 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote:
On 2014-01-04 21:31, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 01/04/2014 08:56 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
* yum remove kernel vs dnf remove kernel difference (unfiled? )
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