Re: [Base] Proposal for buildrequires cleanup janitorial initiative

2013-12-20 Thread Colin Walters
Hi, On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 16:28 -0600, Jon wrote: > To reduce size, complexity, save time. That's quite vague. > What do you mean by "*enforcing*", or how would you imagine that happening? My original email contained a total of 3 sentences, and you didn't reply to the second sentence, which an

[389-devel] ACL: Adding object based on owner attribute

2013-12-20 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
I'm working on this project: http://www.freeipa.org/page/V3/OTP Users need to be able to create, edit and delete their own tokens. Each token has an attribute: ipatokenOwner. I attempted creating this ACL: (target = "ldap:///ipatokenuniqueid=*,cn=otp,dc=example,dc=com";)(targetfilter = "(objectCl

Re: [Base] Proposal for buildrequires cleanup janitorial initiative

2013-12-20 Thread Jon
> If not, what's the point of this initiative? To reduce size, complexity, save time. What do you mean by "*enforcing*", or how would you imagine that happening? On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 18:50 +0100, Phil Knirsch wrote: >> Hi everyone. >> >> D

Re: [Base] Proposal for buildrequires cleanup janitorial initiative

2013-12-20 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 18:50 +0100, Phil Knirsch wrote: > Hi everyone. > > During last weeks Base WG discussion about package set and self hosting > of Base we came to a point where especially the self hosting of Base > would currently look absurd as we'd require more than 2000 components to > d

FDO and LTO (optimizations)

2013-12-20 Thread Neal Becker
I was reading some of the discussion of feedback directed optimization and link time optimization for python here: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/143941 I'm wondering if Fedora should be enabling some of these optimizations? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: [Base] Proposal for buildrequires cleanup janitorial initiative

2013-12-20 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:15:39 +0100, Phil Knirsch wrote: > Right, but shouldn't that then lead to the package building fine but > the binary packages would miss some requires? How would it miss requires? foo-devel should Requires: bar-devel (see the guidelines[1]), so you'll get it, but the pac

Re: Rawhide unannounced ABI bumps: gnome-bluetooth

2013-12-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 06:23:47 -0500 (EST) Bastien Nocera wrote: ...snip... > > nm-connection-editor (from network-manager-applet) > > This ships a gnome-bluetooth plugin, that used to be shown in the > Bluetooth wizard and the settings app. From BlueZ 5, and in F20, this > plugin is completely u

EPEL Fedora 6 updates-testing report

2013-12-20 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing: Age URL 607 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5620/bugzilla-3.4.14-2.el6 121 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11274/ssmtp-2.61-21.el6 63 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDO

EPEL Fedora 5 updates-testing report

2013-12-20 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 5 Security updates need testing: Age URL 607 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5630/bugzilla-3.2.10-5.el5 121 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11276/ssmtp-2.61-21.el5 97 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDO

[Base] Fedora Base Design Working Group (2013-12-20) meeting minutes and logs

2013-12-20 Thread Phil Knirsch
Main topic was the discussion of how to proceeded with the BR cleanup idea. One key point that was brought up that this whole effort obviously relies on working closely with the maintainers of affected packages. So the first big step is contacting all of them in order to ask them whether they

Re: really stop "really" commits (really!)

2013-12-20 Thread David Malcolm
On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 18:42 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > Invariably when adding a patch to a spec, often I forget some detail, > whether it be adding the %patchN macro to %prep or `git add`ing the > patch. It would seem I'm not alone, either. A Google search for e.g. > "site:https://lists.f

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-12-18)

2013-12-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
This thread is no longer productive and is closed. I urge everyone to re-read our code of conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-12-18)

2013-12-20 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 20.12.2013 14:48, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: >> On fös 20.des 2013 13:18, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> not because it is irrelevant, because your only interest in that context is >>> trolling against RH >> >> Trolling against RH right

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-12-18)

2013-12-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.12.2013 14:48, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > On fös 20.des 2013 13:18, Reindl Harald wrote: >> not because it is irrelevant, because your only interest in that context is >> trolling against RH > > Trolling against RH right right that's why I have been complement their arm > team and

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-12-18)

2013-12-20 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On fös 20.des 2013 13:18, Reindl Harald wrote: not because it is irrelevant, because your only interest in that context is trolling against RH Trolling against RH right right that's why I have been complement their arm team and how they handle become primary left and right on the internet.

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-12-18)

2013-12-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.12.2013 14:11, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > > On fös 20.des 2013 09:49, Michael Scherer wrote: >> Le mercredi 18 décembre 2013 à 21:40 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" a >> écrit : >>> On mið 18.des 2013 21:20, Reindl Harald wrote: who do you think you are to claim whatever people a

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-12-18)

2013-12-20 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On fös 20.des 2013 09:49, Michael Scherer wrote: Le mercredi 18 décembre 2013 à 21:40 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" a écrit : On mið 18.des 2013 21:20, Reindl Harald wrote: who do you think you are to claim whatever people are "outside the community"? Individual that tells that truth and she

Re: Inter-WG coordination: Stable application runtimes

2013-12-20 Thread Florian Weimer
On 12/19/2013 05:33 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 09:52 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Didn't we have a mass rebuild due to a C++ ABI change 1 or 2 years ago? Standard C++ does not specify an ABI. Compilers get to handle that themselves. We adhere to the Itanium C++ ABI. I

Re: Rawhide unannounced ABI bumps: gnome-bluetooth

2013-12-20 Thread Bastien Nocera
- Original Message - > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:23 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > vfrnav I didn't know this software, and I didn't know it used gnome-bluetooth. Even with older versions of gnome-bluetooth it throws: (vfrnav:1959): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid cast from 'BluetoothC

Re: Rawhide unannounced ABI bumps: gnome-bluetooth

2013-12-20 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:23 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > Yep, it's that time again, folks. I see errors in my daily update > > indicating an unannounced API/ABI bump. > > > > gnome-bluetooth-3.11.3-1.fc21 (built yesterday) seems to have gone from > > libgnome-

Re: [Base] Proposal for buildrequires cleanup janitorial initiative

2013-12-20 Thread Phil Knirsch
On 12/13/2013 03:34 PM, Ville Skyttä wrote: On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Phil Knirsch wrote: Famous last words: Can't be that hard to write a script that compares 2 builds that they provide the have the same provides and requires and filelists. :) Try /usr/bin/rpmdiff first... Great i

Re: Rawhide unannounced ABI bumps: gnome-bluetooth

2013-12-20 Thread Bastien Nocera
- Original Message - > Yep, it's that time again, folks. I see errors in my daily update > indicating an unannounced API/ABI bump. > > gnome-bluetooth-3.11.3-1.fc21 (built yesterday) seems to have gone from > libgnome-bluetooth.so.12 to libgnome-bluetooth.so.13 and dropped > libgnome-blu

[Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 20. Dec 2013 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

2013-12-20 Thread Phil Knirsch
Sorry for the late send out of the agenda, this week has been "overwhelming" somehow... Agenda: - Continue discussion about BR cleanup o Discuss ideas and concerns brought up on the f-d ML o Proposal how to automate this - Happy holiday wishes! :) Thanks & regards, Phil -- Philipp Knirsch

Re: [Base] Proposal for buildrequires cleanup janitorial initiative

2013-12-20 Thread Phil Knirsch
On 12/14/2013 03:27 PM, Ben Boeckel wrote: On Fri, 13 Dec, 2013 at 13:41:55 GMT, Phil Knirsch wrote: Yea, I suspect both could be combined though in a script that gradually adds new BRs to a package and then iterates over adding and removing BRs until it produces equivalent output (not identical

Re: [Base] Proposal for buildrequires cleanup janitorial initiative

2013-12-20 Thread Phil Knirsch
On 12/14/2013 02:25 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 14:45 +0100, Phil Knirsch wrote: Famous last words: Can't be that hard to write a script that compares 2 builds that they provide the have the same provides and requires and filelists. :) That's still not really enough; that

Re: [Base] Proposal for buildrequires cleanup janitorial initiative

2013-12-20 Thread Phil Knirsch
On 12/15/2013 11:54 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:20:50PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 12.12.2013 18:50, Phil Knirsch napsal(a): Initiate build requires cleanup for base related packages in Fedora working with maintainers and the community. The goal is to reduce the

Re: Creating SRPM without rpmbuild

2013-12-20 Thread Miro Hrončok
Dne 19.12.2013 09:33, Florian Weimer napsal(a): I think Debian has a working rpmbuild, but it obviously doesn't help if you aren't allowed to install packages. I didn't think of that. It has [1]. I am able to request installation of a package somehow, so I'll stick with that. Thanks a lot

Re: Creating SRPM without rpmbuild

2013-12-20 Thread Miro Hrončok
Dne 19.12.2013 01:30, Matthew Miller napsal(a): Maybe, but I'm not sure it's worth it. RPM is a cpio archive with a specialized header, and, really, rpmbuild is the best way to do it. I was thinking about something like that. Why not prepare the SRPM somewhere else and copy it? I need to pr

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-12-18)

2013-12-20 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 18 décembre 2013 à 21:40 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" a écrit : > On mið 18.des 2013 21:20, Reindl Harald wrote: > > who do you think you are to claim whatever people are "outside the > > community"? > > Individual that tells that truth and shed's light how RH operates. Shed light

Re: Packages no in F-20 tree

2013-12-20 Thread Tim Niemueller
My bad. The kickstart I used for earlier installations did not work any more. Now it is mandatory to give a "url" statement, while before it was sufficient to just list all repos. And then I looked only in the Fedora tree on the local mirror, not Everything. Time for some vacation I guess...