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2013-11-09 Thread Muhammad D. R.
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Re: unaccessability

2013-11-09 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 November 2013 21:47, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 12:28:46 -0500 (EST), Christian Schaller wrote: > >> Hi, >> The core principle of the installer is that it operates on an application >> level and not a package level. The current way it determines if something is >> an appli

Re: unaccessability

2013-11-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.11.2013 01:35, schrieb Les Howell: > On Sat, 2013-11-09 at 22:47 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 12:28:46 -0500 (EST), Christian Schaller wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> The core principle of the installer is that it operates on an application >>> level and not a package level.

Re: unaccessability

2013-11-09 Thread Les Howell
On Sat, 2013-11-09 at 22:47 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 12:28:46 -0500 (EST), Christian Schaller wrote: > > > Hi, > > The core principle of the installer is that it operates on an application > > level and not a package level. The current way it determines if something >

Re: OSGi 5 Implementation

2013-11-09 Thread Manuel Faux
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 23:04:17 +0100 "punto...@libero.it" wrote: > Il 09/11/2013 15:25, Manuel Faux ha scritto: > > I'm trying to build NetBeans 7.4 under Fedora, which requires an > > OSGi 5 specification. NetBeans originally ships the OSGi Alliance's > > specification, whose license is not compati

Re: OSGi 5 Implementation

2013-11-09 Thread punto...@libero.it
Il 09/11/2013 15:25, Manuel Faux ha scritto: I'm trying to build NetBeans 7.4 under Fedora, which requires an OSGi 5 specification. NetBeans originally ships the OSGi Alliance's specification, whose license is not compatible with Fedora, as far as I know (http://www.osgi.org/Download/Release5?inf

Re: unaccessability

2013-11-09 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 12:28:46 -0500 (EST), Christian Schaller wrote: > Hi, > The core principle of the installer is that it operates on an application > level and not a package level. The current way it determines if something is > an application > is by looking for a .desktop file. So in theory

Re: Workstation PRD summary and next steps

2013-11-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthias Clasen wrote: > No, we want to move to a forum where the working group members have a > chance to discuss things without being drowned out by 100+ mails/day > from you. The other working groups are doing the same on their > respective mailing lists. And of course the "problem" is the pers

Re: unaccessability

2013-11-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bastien Nocera wrote: > - Original Message - > >> But they hardcode the terminal application to gnome-terminal, which is >> unacceptable! > > Just don't use GNOME? More seriously, this is the bug with the > instructions on how to write the "terminal chooser" patch for glib: > https://bug

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > I did discuss the idea with my manager (Denise Dumas, Director of Platform > Engineering) to make sure she would support me in spending time developing > it. She has promised (including to everyone at Flock) to provide resources > wher

Re: What user and password to use in cloud images?

2013-11-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 11:16:08PM +0100, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote: > I cannot login with the user 'fedora'. I'm connected to the console (it is > a CloudStack cloud), and have tried all combinations of ec2-user/fedora > /passwords/without-passwords. Oh hey. I missed that this was in CloudStack --

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 02:45:46PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I don't really have a problem in believing that but it would be useful to > know in more detail how the initial proposals came to be (who were > involved? what problems are we trying to solve? what are failures of the > current mod

back to the basics of fedora.next

2013-11-09 Thread Matthew Miller
[Apologies for late replies to a long, wandering thread. I've been at a confernece and am just catching up.] On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 08:47:44AM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Where's the benefit of creating a handful of workgroups that now > have some sort of power over the distribution? Afte

Re: [Base] Summary/Minutes from today's Base WG meeting (2013-11-08)

2013-11-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 03:21:04PM -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Hey, I read your minutes, and discussed some of my thoughts on this with > my workstation wg peers. Basically, I think that defining a 'base' as a > particular set of packages (minimal install, or some variant thereof) > does not re

Re: introducing myself

2013-11-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 04:55:32PM +0100, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > I have recently joined the Red Hat Security Technologies Team, > and will help co-maintain the gnutls and nettle packages. Hi, and welcome. Glad to have you on board and contributing to Fedora! -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fed

Re: Copr

2013-11-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 01:54:40PM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > let me introduce Copr: This seems like a good message to go to devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org, especially with all the traffic here these days. Maybe you could resend, or else wait a little while until you feel like it's a l

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Python 3.4

2013-11-09 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > For bonus points, we ought to tell "file" and "rpmlint" about the new bytecode > format for .pyc files. rpmlint 1.5 already "knows" the 3.4 bytecode magic value, but an old one. Fixed/updated in git: https://sourceforge.net/p/rpmlint/code/c

Re: What user and password to use in cloud images?

2013-11-09 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 11:16:08PM +0100, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote: > I cannot login with the user 'fedora'. I'm connected to the console (it is a > CloudStack cloud), and have tried all combinations of ec2-user/fedora > /passwords/without-passwords. You've solved it, but for reference virt-sysp

Re: Workstation PRD summary and next steps

2013-11-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 13:21:34 -0500 Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 04:16:49PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > So it does! My mistake. > > Though I do hesitate to not run it past FESCo first. They're > > intimately involved in several areas, and that is the group that the > > WG liai

Re: Workstation PRD summary and next steps

2013-11-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 04:16:49PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > So it does! My mistake. > Though I do hesitate to not run it past FESCo first. They're > intimately involved in several areas, and that is the group that the > WG liaisons ... liaise to. Getting a FESCo ack would probably go a > long

OSGi 5 Implementation

2013-11-09 Thread Manuel Faux
I'm trying to build NetBeans 7.4 under Fedora, which requires an OSGi 5 specification. NetBeans originally ships the OSGi Alliance's specification, whose license is not compatible with Fedora, as far as I know (http://www.osgi.org/Download/Release5?info=nothanks). Is there any OSGi 5 implementatio

F-20 Branched report: 20131109 changes

2013-11-09 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Sat Nov 9 09:15:03 UTC 2013 Broken deps for armhfp -- [blueman] blueman-1.23-7.fc20.armv7hl requires obex-data-server >= 0:0.4.3 blueman-1.23-7.fc20.armv7hl requires gvfs-obexftp [bwm-ng] bwm-ng-0.6