Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Tim Lauridsen
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Ray Strode wrote: > Small errors here: > >Control want package repositories there is enabled for current > session > > maybe should be: > >Control what package repositories are enabled for the current > session > Thanks, fixed upstream Tim -- devel maili

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-01 Thread Christian Schaller
- Original Message - > > > > It looks like it is designed only for developers by developers. > > > > What about graphic designers, musicians, document writers, etc.? They > > all are not mentioned as target audience. > > Per this document, those would fall into the "Other users" secti

Re: Fedora search

2013-11-01 Thread Frankie Onuonga
Hi folks, I trust all is well. I believe this email will spark something so I will cc Kevin in it because of multiple reasons. I would like somethings to be clear from the word go. I am not too sure where to start with this email. I have combined emotions of extremely mad and extremely excited a

Re: Fedora search

2013-11-01 Thread Alek Paunov
On 02.11.2013 02:32, Michael Cronenworth wrote: This will be my last mailing on this topic as I will not contribute or use this feature in Fedora, but this reply warranted clarification. On 11/01/2013 06:14 PM, Alek Paunov wrote: Another simple answer: CSE is a low quality search - no facets, n

Re: Fedora search

2013-11-01 Thread Michael Cronenworth
This will be my last mailing on this topic as I will not contribute or use this feature in Fedora, but this reply warranted clarification. On 11/01/2013 06:14 PM, Alek Paunov wrote: Another simple answer: CSE is a low quality search - no facets, no (real) content age restriction. The same is va

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Sandro Mani
On 02.11.2013 00:33, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 11:01 +, Richard Hughes wrote: Sure. GNOME is a complete desktop, not a collection of packages designed to be replaced. Personally, I see little benefit in prohibiting users from removing core apps. If they don't like a p

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 11:01 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > Sure. GNOME is a complete desktop, not a collection of packages > designed to be replaced. Personally, I see little benefit in prohibiting users from removing core apps. If they don't like a particular program, why force it on them? Many p

Re: Fedora search

2013-11-01 Thread Alek Paunov
On 31.10.2013 22:03, Dennis Gilmore wrote: Michael Cronenworth escribió: What about using a custom Google search engine? https://www.google.com/cse/ simple answer, its not open source Another simple answer: CSE is a low quality search - no facets, no (real) content age restriction. The

Fedora 20-Beta RC2 AMIS

2013-11-01 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi all, Beta RC2 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at ami-cbaaf3a2 : us-east-1 image for i386 ami-17abf27e : us-east-1 image for x86_64 additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files in the release tree htt

[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Beta Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Available Now!

2013-11-01 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 20 Beta RC1 compose was skipped. The last tested compose was TC6. NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit Security Spins are over their respective size targets. As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Beta Release Candidate 2 (RC2) is now available for testing. Content information, including chan

Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-11-01 Thread Christopher
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 5:38 AM, drago01 wrote: > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: >> On 10/30/2013 10:27 AM, Alec Leamas wrote: >>> On 2013-10-30 11:23, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 30.10.2013 11:20, schrieb Alec Leamas: > On 2013-10-30 10:58, Reindl Harald wrote: >> A

Re: Packages have "proxy" word.

2013-11-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* مصعب الزعبي: > Thank You for attention, > Yes they are all downloadable, Good to know. > But only if I use https. Yes, that is expected, considering yoru situation. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Condu

Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-11-01 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > I get that some don't like $HOME/.local/bin; that's fine, agree to > disagree (I don't really care one way or the other about this one). > However, don't try to make it about security; that just isn't really an > issue here, no matter how "obvio

Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-11-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Miloslav Trmač said: > I don't think this in practice matters _for security_[1]: Even the > users that know ~/bin exists are extremely unlikely to be regularly > checking its contents to see whether a malicious file hasn't been > added. And again, it isn't just directories in PA

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-01 Thread Ryan Lerch
On Fri 01 Nov 2013 14:43:37 EDT, Bill Nottingham wrote: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller (cscha...@redhat.com) said: Hi everyone, Attached is the draft PRD for the Workstation working group. The proposal tries to be relatively high level and focus on goals and principles, but I have included s

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > Cleaned up the appdata xml > > https://github.com/timlau/yumex/blob/master/misc/yumex.appdata.xml Small errors here: Control want package repositories there is enabled for current session maybe should be: Control what package re

Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-11-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.11.2013 20:55, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: > [1] It might matter for troubleshooting. > [2] Possible privilege escalations attacks to get root's or other > user's permissions are irrelevant to our discussion. [2] is very courageous (to say it nice) in the context we talk signature.a

Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-11-01 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 11/01/2013 09:38 AM, drago01 wrote: >> The attacker needs to be able to write to your home directory to >> take advantage of it. And if he can do that (you lost) he has >> numerous other ways of doing it. > > That is true. However, there i

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread drago01
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, drago01 wrote: >> >> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Tim Lauridsen >> wrote: >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Matthias Clasen >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Great, thanks for doing that. >> >> >> >> N

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Tim Lauridsen
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > > You've got some odd non-utf8 char as the very first byte in the file: > > Looks like the editor has written an Unicode BOM, after removing that it validates ok Tim -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedorap

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Tim Lauridsen
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, drago01 wrote: > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Tim Lauridsen > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Matthias Clasen > wrote: > >> > >> Great, thanks for doing that. > >> > >> Noticed while quickly looking over the file: > >> > >> - it is not valid xml

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Richard Hughes
On 1 November 2013 19:27, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > Cleaned up the appdata xml Thanks, > https://github.com/timlau/yumex/blob/master/misc/yumex.appdata.xml > but I get errors from appdata-validate > Can see what the problem is :( You've got some odd non-utf8 char as the very first byte in the fil

RE: Packages have "proxy" word.

2013-11-01 Thread مصعب الزعبي
Thank You for attention, Yes they are all downloadable, But only if I use https. > From: f...@deneb.enyo.de > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: Re: Packages have "proxy" word. > Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 20:00:54 +0100 > > * مصعب الزعبي: > > > When any package have "proxy" word marked to

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread drago01
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> >> Great, thanks for doing that. >> >> Noticed while quickly looking over the file: >> >> - it is not valid xml: & needs to be escaped as & >> >> - 'gui' is not a great term to use.

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Tim Lauridsen
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Great, thanks for doing that. > > Noticed while quickly looking over the file: > > - it is not valid xml: & needs to be escaped as & > > - 'gui' is not a great term to use. I'd suggest rewording the first > sentence maybe as 'Yum extender i

Re: Packages have "proxy" word.

2013-11-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* مصعب الزعبي: > When any package have "proxy" word marked to (install or update) , > error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. A curious problem. Could you use the repositories on https://dl.fedoraproject.org/ instead? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://

Re: Fedora search

2013-11-01 Thread Sarup Banskota
Not too sure what this discussion will lead to, but can I'd enjoy being kept in the loop if you guys are implementing something :) Btw, +1 to the issue. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedora

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-01 Thread Bill Nottingham
Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller (cscha...@redhat.com) said: > Hi everyone, > Attached is the draft PRD for the Workstation working group. The > proposal tries to be relatively high level and focus on goals and > principles, but I have included some concrete examples at times to try > to provide

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-01 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > Hi everyone, > Attached is the draft PRD for the Workstation working group. The > proposal tries to be relatively high level and focus on goals and > principles, but I have included some concrete examples at times to try

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-01 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Markus Mayer wrote: > On 11/01/2013 03:24 PM, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> Attached is the draft PRD for the Workstation working group. The >> proposal tries to be relatively high level and focus on goals and >> principles, but I

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-01 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > On 01.11.2013 15:24, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> Attached is the draft PRD for the Workstation working group. The >> proposal tries to be relatively high level and focus on goals and >> principles, but

Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-11-01 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/01/2013 09:38 AM, drago01 wrote: > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: >> On 10/30/2013 10:27 AM, Alec Leamas wrote: >>> On 2013-10-30 11:23, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 30.10.2013 11:20, schrieb Alec Leamas: > On 2013-10-30 10:58, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 30.10.2

Re: rpm macro magic help

2013-11-01 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 11/01/2013 05:12 PM, Sandro Mani wrote: >> >> >> On 01.11.2013 16:09, Sandro Mani wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 01.11.2013 16:07, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Sandro Mani wrote: > > Hi, > >>

Re: rpm macro magic help

2013-11-01 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 11/01/2013 05:12 PM, Sandro Mani wrote: On 01.11.2013 16:09, Sandro Mani wrote: On 01.11.2013 16:07, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi, I'm trying to do some rpm macro magic: %define do_build() \ mkdir build_win%{1}_%{2}; \ (cd build_win%{1}

Re: gnome software shell search provider? [Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime?]

2013-11-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 03:29:02PM +, Richard Hughes wrote: > For those less brave, I've uploaded a screenshot here: > http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/temp/gnome-software-shell-search.png H -- that little shopping bag doesn't _quite_ say "available but not installed" to me. I wond

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Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-01 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 01.11.2013 15:24, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > Hi everyone, > Attached is the draft PRD for the Workstation working group. The > proposal tries to be relatively high level and focus on goals and > principles, but I have included some concrete examples at times to try > to provide

Re: review swap - coin-or-Osi

2013-11-01 Thread Paulo César Pereira de Andrade
2013/11/1 Antonio Trande : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/01/2013 04:36 PM, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade wrote: >> The package follows the same pattern of other coin-or packages >> already in Fedora, should be trivial do review. >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-01 Thread drago01
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Markus Mayer wrote: > On 11/01/2013 03:24 PM, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> Attached is the draft PRD for the Workstation working group. The >> proposal tries to be relatively high level and focus on goals and >> principles, but I h

RE: Packages have "proxy" word. (repeated to CC legal)

2013-11-01 Thread مصعب الزعبي
Fedora is a global community, not company, published under free license for fredom of computers. Fedora has many many mirrors around the world, nobody can ban it to reach anywhere. Also this law is under restudy, Due to War in Syria. Source forge and many websites that banned them-contents for

Re: review swap - coin-or-Osi

2013-11-01 Thread Antonio Trande
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/01/2013 04:36 PM, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade wrote: > The package follows the same pattern of other coin-or packages > already in Fedora, should be trivial do review. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=894586 > Hi Paulo. I ca

Re: Fedora engineering manager

2013-11-01 Thread Peter Martuccelli
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 22:54 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 09:47:36PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > El Thu, 31 Oct 2013 22:42:52 -0400 > > "Paul W. Frields" escribió: > > > Hi Fedora folks, > > > > > > Hopefully some of you know me, possibly as a previous Fedora Projec

Re: gnome software shell search provider? [Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime?]

2013-11-01 Thread Richard Hughes
On 1 November 2013 15:36, Ryan Lerch wrote: > Or even kick off a removal of an application from the overview? Sure, that's certainly possible, I'd just need some UI mockups to work from. Note, core apps are not removable, so we'd have to have some kind of API to ask if an app is removable before

review swap - coin-or-Osi

2013-11-01 Thread Paulo César Pereira de Andrade
The package follows the same pattern of other coin-or packages already in Fedora, should be trivial do review. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=894586 Thanks, Paulo -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code o

Re: gnome software shell search provider? [Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime?]

2013-11-01 Thread Richard Hughes
On 1 November 2013 15:31, Bill Nottingham wrote: > So if it has a session service, and a shell provider integration, does that > mean we do overlays/highlighting on applications with updates pending in the > shell We don't do that at the moment, but we could add that as a feature in [upstream] bu

Re: gnome software shell search provider? [Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime?]

2013-11-01 Thread Ryan Lerch
On Fri 01 Nov 2013 11:31:37 EDT, Bill Nottingham wrote: Richard Hughes (hughsi...@gmail.com) said: On 1 November 2013 14:53, Matthew Miller wrote: Okay, thanks. This is really cool good stuff. Guess it's time to update my other laptop to Rawhide. :) For those less brave, I've uploaded a scre

Re: gnome software shell search provider? [Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime?]

2013-11-01 Thread Bill Nottingham
Richard Hughes (hughsi...@gmail.com) said: > On 1 November 2013 14:53, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Okay, thanks. This is really cool good stuff. Guess it's time to update my > > other laptop to Rawhide. :) > > For those less brave, I've uploaded a screenshot here: > http://people.freedesktop.org/~

Re: gnome software shell search provider? [Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime?]

2013-11-01 Thread Richard Hughes
On 1 November 2013 14:53, Matthew Miller wrote: > Okay, thanks. This is really cool good stuff. Guess it's time to update my > other laptop to Rawhide. :) For those less brave, I've uploaded a screenshot here: http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/temp/gnome-software-shell-search.png Also, if

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-01 Thread Markus Mayer
On 11/01/2013 03:24 PM, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: Hi everyone, Attached is the draft PRD for the Workstation working group. The proposal tries to be relatively high level and focus on goals and principles, but I have included some concrete examples at times to try to provide some

[perl-Class-Std] Created tag perl-Class-Std-0.011-1.fc21

2013-11-01 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Class-Std-0.011-1.fc21' was created pointing to: 2aed7e6... Update to 0.011 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-01 Thread Markus Mayer
On 11/01/2013 03:24 PM, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: Hi everyone, Attached is the draft PRD for the Workstation working group. The proposal tries to be relatively high level and focus on goals and principles, but I have included some concrete examples at times to try to provide some

Re: rpm macro magic help

2013-11-01 Thread Sandro Mani
On 01.11.2013 16:09, Sandro Mani wrote: On 01.11.2013 16:07, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi, I'm trying to do some rpm macro magic: %define do_build() \ mkdir build_win%{1}_%{2}; \ (cd build_win%{1}_%{2}; \ %{mingw%{1}_qmake_%{2}} 'PREFIX=%{m

[perl-Class-Std] Update to 0.011

2013-11-01 Thread Paul Howarth
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Re: rpm macro magic help

2013-11-01 Thread Sandro Mani
On 01.11.2013 16:07, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi, I'm trying to do some rpm macro magic: %define do_build() \ mkdir build_win%{1}_%{2}; \ (cd build_win%{1}_%{2}; \ %{mingw%{1}_qmake_%{2}} 'PREFIX=%{mingw%{1}_prefix}' 'TARGET=quazip-%{2}' ../

Re: rpm macro magic help

2013-11-01 Thread Sandro Mani
On 01.11.2013 15:59, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi, I'm trying to do some rpm macro magic: %define do_build() \ mkdir build_win%{1}_%{2}; \ (cd build_win%{1}_%{2}; \ %{mingw%{1}_qmake_%{2}} 'PREFIX=%{mingw%{1}_prefix}' 'TARGET=quazip-%{2}' ../libquazip; \ %{mingw%{1}_make} %{?_smp_mflags}; \ )\ %{ni

Re: rpm macro magic help

2013-11-01 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Sandro Mani wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to do some rpm macro magic: > > %define do_build() \ > mkdir build_win%{1}_%{2}; \ > (cd build_win%{1}_%{2}; \ > %{mingw%{1}_qmake_%{2}} 'PREFIX=%{mingw%{1}_prefix}' 'TARGET=quazip-%{2}' > ../libquazip; \ > %{mingw%{1}_make} %

rpm macro magic help

2013-11-01 Thread Sandro Mani
Hi, I'm trying to do some rpm macro magic: %define do_build() \ mkdir build_win%{1}_%{2}; \ (cd build_win%{1}_%{2}; \ %{mingw%{1}_qmake_%{2}} 'PREFIX=%{mingw%{1}_prefix}' 'TARGET=quazip-%{2}' ../libquazip; \ %{mingw%{1}_make} %{?_smp_mflags}; \ )\ %{nil} Problem: when I call i.e. "%do_build 3

Re: gnome software shell search provider? [Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime?]

2013-11-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 10:07:11AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > Adding this as a gnome shell search provider will make this *really* slick. > > I see that's https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707594, but I don't > > see it on my F20 test box. Is this going to be in gnome 3.10 or is it

Re: Fedora engineering manager

2013-11-01 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 08:26:47 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 09:47:36PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > Just so its clear, I think I'm the only other person who works full > > time on Fedora at Red Hat, but I'm in a different pa

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 15:00 +0100, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Pete Travis > wrote: > Hmm... It sounds like yumex would be much more discoverable if > it included an appdata file :) > > Done, > > https://github.com/timlau/yumex/blob/82198add9daabcfc

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Richard Hughes
On 1 November 2013 14:00, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > https://github.com/timlau/yumex/blob/82198add9daabcfcabe9d8bb7a28ef3190e920d7/misc/yumex-appdata.xml There are numerous problems with that file, and it's not going to be used by the parser. If you read http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/appda

Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-01 Thread Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
Hi everyone, Attached is the draft PRD for the Workstation working group. The proposal tries to be relatively high level and focus on goals and principles, but I have included some concrete examples at times to try to provide some clarity on how the goals and principles could play out in practice.

Re: gnome software shell search provider? [Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime?]

2013-11-01 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 10:05 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 09:58:19AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Speaking purely for myself and my own usage, I think this distinction makes > > plenty of sense. Except I don't even really want the old packagekit tools. > > If I'm lookin

gnome software shell search provider? [Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime?]

2013-11-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 09:58:19AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > Speaking purely for myself and my own usage, I think this distinction makes > plenty of sense. Except I don't even really want the old packagekit tools. > If I'm looking for something desktop-application-y, an "app store" seems > lik

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Tim Lauridsen
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Pete Travis wrote: > Hmm... It sounds like yumex would be much more discoverable if it included > an appdata file :) Done, https://github.com/timlau/yumex/blob/82198add9daabcfcabe9d8bb7a28ef3190e920d7/misc/yumex-appdata.xml Tim -- devel mailing list devel@list

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 11:01:57AM +, Richard Hughes wrote: > We wanted to write an application that rocked for a certain set of > users, rather than write a generic UI that wasn't really usable by > anyone. Also, given that you can easily install the old packagekit > package tools using the ap

Re: Fedora Working Groups: Call for Self-Nominations

2013-11-01 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 04:40 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Bill Nottingham wrote: > > And I would argue that having the user interface swing wildly in design & > > implementation based on "the current composition of an elected board that > > is refreshed in part every six months" is not the sort of s

Re: Packages have "proxy" word.

2013-11-01 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
Quoting Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (2013-11-01 13:52:31) > On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:09:03PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 02:07:22AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:08:33AM +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote: > > > > بسم الله الرّحم

RE: Packages have "proxy" word.

2013-11-01 Thread مصعب الزعبي
Fedora is a global community, not company, published under free license for fredom of computers. Fedora has many many mirrors around the world, nobody can ban it to reach anywhere. Also this law is under restudy, Due to War in Syria. Source forge and many websites that banned them-contents for S

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM, drago01 wrote: > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> We can't make everybody happy all the time, sure, but there must be >> something that can be done. >> * Add a release note describing how to get a GUI that shows all packages? >> * Make sure

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread drago01
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: >> >> Packages are not interesting to desktop users, they >> are just an implementation detail of how to get something done. e.g. >> "Play my media file", "Open this document someone se

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread drago01
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: >> Also, given that you can easily install the old packagekit >> package tools using the application installer, there's really no >> reason to get upset at all. > > Yet people visibly _a

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Tim Lauridsen
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > Packages are not interesting to desktop users, they > are just an implementation detail of how to get something done. e.g. > "Play my media file", "Open this document someone sent to me". Anyone > wanting to do things like "install a mysql

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > Also, given that you can easily install the old packagekit > package tools using the application installer, there's really no > reason to get upset at all. Yet people visibly _are_ upset in this thread, so there's something wrong with that

Re: Packages have "proxy" word.

2013-11-01 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:09:03PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 02:07:22AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:08:33AM +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote: > > > بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > The result of updating Fed

Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-11-01 Thread Alec Leamas
On 2013-11-01 13:16, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.11.2013 13:00, schrieb Petr Viktorin: In both cases, everything the user had access to is compromised, including .bash_profile itself. What other *security* impact did you have in mind? when i learned something about security than that the dange

Re: Fedora search

2013-11-01 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 10:51:07 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:05 AM, Ben Boeckel wrote: > > Google is having more and more privacy issues lately. Why not use > > DuckDuckGo and write a 'bang' search for fedora sites? > > !fedora-guidelines, !fedora-package !fedora-wiki,

F-20 Branched report: 20131101 changes

2013-11-01 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Fri Nov 1 09:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for armhfp -- [blueman] blueman-1.23-7.fc20.armv7hl requires obex-data-server >= 0:0.4.3 blueman-1.23-7.fc20.armv7hl requires gvfs-obexftp [bwm-ng] bwm-ng-0.6

Re: Fedora engineering manager

2013-11-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 09:47:36PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > Just so its clear, I think I'm the only other person who works full > time on Fedora at Red Hat, but I'm in a different part of the > organisation and have a different reporting structure. You're not the only one. Actually, I'm not

Re: Status of packages buffer mindi mindi-busybox mondo

2013-11-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
An update here, since Bruno has also replied but is not subscribed to devel@. I've had a look at some of the packages, found a few issues and added comments in bugzilla. * Busybox (and mindi-busybox) contain another bundled MD5 implementation originally by Ulrich Drepper. * "buffer" has been

Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-11-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.11.2013 13:00, schrieb Petr Viktorin: > On 11/01/2013 11:14 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> the rootkit in /tmp/cp is in your path? > > If . would have been in $PATH and I happened to be in /tmp, then yes. > On the other hand if I install something in my home, it does not affect other > users

Re: Fedora engineering manager

2013-11-01 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Hi Fedora folks, > > Hopefully some of you know me, possibly as a previous Fedora Project > Leader at Red Hat. If you don't, then salutations, and please feel > free to check out my Fedora wiki page[1] for my background. :-) > > As of next

Re: Packages have "proxy" word.

2013-11-01 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 02:07:22AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:08:33AM +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote: > > بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم > > > > Hi, > > > > The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! > > > > When any package have "proxy" word marked to (insta

RE: Packages have "proxy" word.

2013-11-01 Thread مصعب الزعبي
Ok , so what about last idea to hash package names ? > Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 09:44:57 +0100 > From: msu...@redhat.com > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: Re: Packages have "proxy" word. > > On 11/01/2013 12:38 AM, مصعب الزعبي wrote: > > Proxies not banned. > > But can be. > > Renamin

RE: Packages have "proxy" word.

2013-11-01 Thread مصعب الزعبي
Great idea to hash package names. Thanx > Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 09:02:24 +0100 > Subject: Re: Packages have "proxy" word. > From: drag...@gmail.com > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:42 AM, Christopher Meng wrote: > > Censorship? I think we have no reason to change

RE: Packages have "proxy" word.

2013-11-01 Thread مصعب الزعبي
Also for old names we can use (provides:) function. I can turn around the problem but beginners can't. > From: cicku...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 10:42:16 +0800 > Subject: Re: Packages have "proxy" word. > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Censorship? I think we have no reason to cha

RE: Packages have "proxy" word.

2013-11-01 Thread مصعب الزعبي
Not worked during updating ! Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 19:42:35 -0600 Subject: Re: Packages have "proxy" word. From: li...@petetravis.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org On Oct 31, 2013 6:08 PM, "مصعب الزعبي" wrote: > > بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم > > Hi, > > The result of updating Fedora by

Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-11-01 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 11/01/2013 11:14 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.11.2013 11:08, schrieb Petr Viktorin: On 11/01/2013 10:48 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.11.2013 10:38, schrieb drago01: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 10/30/2013 10:27 AM, Alec Leamas wrote: On 2013-10-30 11:23,

RE: Packages have "proxy" word.

2013-11-01 Thread مصعب الزعبي
About me And also professional users, doing some thing to download these packages. What about normal users !! what about the beginners ?? > Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 02:07:22 +0100 > From: zbys...@in.waw.pl > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: Re: Packages have "proxy" word. > > On Fri, N

Re: missing AES-NI in "engine" Fedora compared to RHEL/CentOS?

2013-11-01 Thread Reindl Harald
since this is a very interesting thing i also wrote a bugreport openvpn on RHEL would also support "--engine aesni" https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1025717 Am 01.11.2013 12:13, schrieb Reindl Harald: > why does Fedora's openssl not list "aesni" compared to RHEL? > > the values below

missing AES-NI in "engine" Fedora compared to RHEL/CentOS?

2013-11-01 Thread Reindl Harald
why does Fedora's openssl not list "aesni" compared to RHEL? the values below are showing it is in fact supported by both, on the other hand "SSLCryptoDevice aesni" for Apache does not work on Fedora and i am unsure if it is used automatically by default in that case in doubt this may waste facto

Re: Fedora search

2013-11-01 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 04:22:33 + > Frankie Onuonga wrote: > > > > > I think this goes back to the concept of having something that we > > can do for ourselves. > > It is a nice to have concept. > But Fedora users (even new ones) will use wha

Re: Fedora search

2013-11-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 04:22:33 + Frankie Onuonga wrote: > > I think this goes back to the concept of having something that we > can do for ourselves. It is a nice to have concept. But Fedora users (even new ones) will use whatever "search engine" they are comfortable\familiar with. -- Regar

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Richard Hughes
On 1 November 2013 03:19, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Having as the only GUI package management application on your spin one that > does not even offer all packages is very broken. You forgot to type "in my opinion"... >> We have a notion of 'core app' - for things that 'come with the OS'. We >> don't

Re: Fedora search

2013-11-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 03:05:16 + (UTC) Ben Boeckel wrote: > Google is having more and more privacy issues lately. Why not use > DuckDuckGo and write a 'bang' search for fedora sites? > !fedora-guidelines, !fedora-package !fedora-wiki, etc.? > > --Ben > Couldn't care if they had a camera in me

Re: Fedora search

2013-11-01 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:05 AM, Ben Boeckel wrote: > On Wed, 30 Oct, 2013 at 19:29:25 GMT, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> What about using a custom Google search engine? >> >> https://www.google.com/cse/ > > Google is having more and more privacy issues lately. Why not use > DuckDuckGo and write a

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Richard Hughes
On 1 November 2013 06:51, Pete Travis wrote: > Hmm... It sounds like yumex would be much more discoverable if it included > an appdata file :) Agreed. At the moment applications without an AppData file are shown below applications with AppData in the search results. See http://alt.fedoraproject.o

Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-11-01 Thread drago01
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 01.11.2013 10:38, schrieb drago01: >> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: >>> On 10/30/2013 10:27 AM, Alec Leamas wrote: On 2013-10-30 11:23, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 30.10.2013 11:20, schrieb Alec Leamas: >

Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-11-01 Thread Alec Leamas
On 2013-11-01 11:14, Reindl Harald wrote: [cut ] on multi-user systems it is *intentional* that the user does *not* install software at it's own and if this should be the case the admin *one time* will add a directory to PATH and say "there you go" [cut] Not necessarily (or even most often) tru

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