Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/25/2013 11:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 17:41 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: I'd love to hear better suggestions the main problem seems to be "it's so busy no one goes there anymore". There is a rather obvious gaping logical flaw in that one ;) Not quite. Complai

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/26/2013 02:14 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 02:11 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: Adam says that devel is relevant to "*developers* (or rather, packagers)". Yet there is the "packaging" list, too. Quote from Oct 16th: "I don't know whether this belongs to the packaging o

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/25/2013 04:48 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 04:02:23PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: The people who've pointed out the confusion about which list to choose when haven't drunk away their memory and could join here, but that will be fruitless if an instance such as FESCo

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 02:11 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Adam says that devel is relevant to "*developers* (or rather, packagers)". > Yet there is the "packaging" list, too. Quote from Oct 16th: > "I don't know whether this belongs to the packaging or devel list," Now to me, THAT seems like a

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:02:44 -0600, Pete Travis wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:54:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > I'm sure the docs team talks about stuff in Rawhide occasionally too; > > > > Unlike "devel", the docs list is related to Documentation only, isn't it? > > > > Could you

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:41:12AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> > mailman topics/keywords features to sort into meaningful sub-categories. I >> > understand that hyperkitty will make this nice and easy, but it's also not >> > really ver

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Pete Travis
On Oct 25, 2013 3:09 PM, "Michael Schwendt" wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:54:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I'm sure the docs team talks about stuff in Rawhide occasionally too; > > Unlike "devel", the docs list is related to Documentation only, isn't it? > > Could you imagine turning

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 17:41 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > I'd love to hear better suggestions the main problem seems to be "it's > so busy no one goes there anymore". There is a rather obvious gaping logical flaw in that one ;) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twit

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:41:12AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > mailman topics/keywords features to sort into meaningful sub-categories. I > > understand that hyperkitty will make this nice and easy, but it's also not > > really very hard just as email. Note that you can subscribe to just cert

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 23:08 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:54:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I'm sure the docs team talks about stuff in Rawhide occasionally too; > > Unlike "devel", the docs list is related to Documentation only, isn't it? > > Could you imagine

Re: F21/F22 System Wide Change: Python 3 as the Default Implementation

2013-10-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:07 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > Work in Fedora 21 Timeframe > * Proposal owners: > ** Discussing changes in Python packaging guidelines with Fedora community and > FPC > ** Helping upstreams with porting to Python 3 Note, there's an upstream mailing list that pe

Announcing the Cloud Working Group

2013-10-25 Thread Matthew Miller
I sent a message about this yesterday to the Cloud SIG mailing list, but neglected to send to the wider community. Also, I just listed people without introductions, and although I think all of these names should be familiar to many of us, that seems like a nice thing. So: I'm pleased to annouce th

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:54:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > I'm sure the docs team talks about stuff in Rawhide occasionally too; Unlike "devel", the docs list is related to Documentation only, isn't it? Could you imagine turning "devel" into a less general list? Is "devel" the catch-all for an

Re: [389-devel] Proof of concept: mocking DS in lib389

2013-10-25 Thread Rich Megginson
On 10/25/2013 01:36 PM, Jan Rusnacko wrote: Hello Roberto and Thierry, as I promised, I am sending you a proof-of-concept code that demonstrates, how we can mock DS in unit tests for library function (see attachment). You can run tests just by executing py.test in tests directory. Only 3 files

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 21:43 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:40:28 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Ever since I've joined, > > which is ohgod nearly five years ago now, the split has seemed > > reasonably clear and non-controversial, and I really can't recall anyone > >

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:40:28 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Ever since I've joined, > which is ohgod nearly five years ago now, the split has seemed > reasonably clear and non-controversial, and I really can't recall anyone > being particularly confused about it, so perhaps this is a problem whic

Package EVR problems in Fedora 2013-10-25

2013-10-25 Thread buildsys
Broken upgrade path report for tags f20-updates-testing -> f21: PackageKit: f20-updates-testing > f21 (PackageKit-0.8.12-1.fc20 PackageKit-0.8.11-3.fc21) ReviewBoard: f20-updates-testing > f21 (ReviewBoard-1.7.16-2.fc20 ReviewBoard-1.7.16-1.fc21) aisleriot: f20-updates-testing > f21

EPEL Fedora 5 updates-testing report

2013-10-25 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 5 Security updates need testing: Age URL 551 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5630/bugzilla-3.2.10-5.el5 65 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11276/ssmtp-2.61-21.el5 41 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDO

EPEL Fedora 6 updates-testing report

2013-10-25 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing: Age URL 551 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5620/bugzilla-3.4.14-2.el6 65 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11274/ssmtp-2.61-21.el6 26 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDO

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 10:48 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 04:02:23PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > The people who've pointed out the confusion about which list to choose > > when haven't drunk away their memory and could join here, but that will be > > fruitless if an

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 16:02 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > The split and intended usage has been questioned by several community > members for many years, even already when the lists where still on Red > Hat's servers. > > Locating such comments with a search engine isn't easy. > https://lists

Re: Differences between Fakeroot and Mock & Suggested method

2013-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:24 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 2:07 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > The koji builders are usually faster than your system anyway > > Maybe, if building only a specific arch (e.g. koji build > --arch-override=x86_64). The arm builders tend to be

Re: Review swap

2013-10-25 Thread Brendan Jones
On 10/25/2013 04:12 PM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 07:40:59AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:34:23AM -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: I have a package review (BZ#1022584:Review Request: qpid-qmf - The QPID Management Framework). I pulled

[perl-Text-Diff-HTML] Created tag perl-Text-Diff-HTML-0.07-1.fc21

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Text-Diff-HTML-0.07-1.fc21' was created pointing to: cc10542... Update to 0.07 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-de

[perl-Text-Diff-HTML] Created tag perl-Text-Diff-HTML-0.07-1.fc20

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Text-Diff-HTML-0.07-1.fc20' was created pointing to: cc10542... Update to 0.07 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-de

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:17:14 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > I would think that if we are in a situation where people who do development > don't subscribe to the devel list because of 'energy' reasons > (disillusionment, feelings of either a) pointlessness b) fait-accompli, > etc.), then just movi

Announcing the Environment and Stacks Working Group

2013-10-25 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
I'd like to introduce to you Environment and Stack group. From our first round of emails it looks like we will work on interpreted languages, databases, software collections... We'd like to setup good environment for developers and admins and give other groups good environment for their work. O

Re: Review swap

2013-10-25 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:58:02PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > I also have plenty of packages: > > Re-review request of mlmmj: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=995933 Nabbed! :) -- Darryl L. Pierce http://mcpierce.fedorapeople.org/ "What do you care what people think, Mr. Feyn

[perl-Text-Autoformat] Update to 1.669004

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Howarth
commit c189a753f8924b43f912fcde2525c768e4164e96 Author: Paul Howarth Date: Fri Oct 25 16:01:59 2013 +0100 Update to 1.669004 - New upstream release 1.669004 - Tweaked widow handling to avoid a nasty edge case - Specify all dependencies - Replace provides filter with a

Re: Review swap

2013-10-25 Thread Christopher Meng
I also have plenty of packages: Re-review request of mlmmj: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=995933 herbstluftwm - A manual tiling window manager: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1001407 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ma

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 04:02:23PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > The people who've pointed out the confusion about which list to choose > when haven't drunk away their memory and could join here, but that will be > fruitless if an instance such as FESCo decides otherwise. So, here's what I'd li

Re: Review swap

2013-10-25 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 07:40:59AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:34:23AM -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > > I have a package review (BZ#1022584:Review Request: qpid-qmf - The QPID > > Management Framework). I pulled the subpackages from qpid-cpp relating > >

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:23:49 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 18:08 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > The intended usage of "test" list has always been a problem. Once in a > > while, somebody points that out, but there's nobody (no leadership) to > > work on a change acti

Re: EPEL Update Netdisco RPMs

2013-10-25 Thread Volker Fröhlich
On 10/25/2013 03:19 PM, Nikolaos Milas wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to use a recent version of Netdisco on CentOS 5 but I see > that EPEL still has: > >netdisco-1.1-1.el5.noarch.rpm > > which is quite old. > > In the past I had upgraded from Netdisco 1.0 to 1.1 using the above > package

EPEL Update Netdisco RPMs

2013-10-25 Thread Nikolaos Milas
Hello, I would like to use a recent version of Netdisco on CentOS 5 but I see that EPEL still has: netdisco-1.1-1.el5.noarch.rpm which is quite old. In the past I had upgraded from Netdisco 1.0 to 1.1 using the above package, but I had serious problems with it (I would conclude that the

[perl-Archive-Tar] 1.96 bump

2013-10-25 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
commit 5e20537859185e91df105615066366f610656aaf Author: Jitka Plesnikova Date: Fri Oct 25 15:15:58 2013 +0200 1.96 bump .gitignore|1 + perl-Archive-Tar.spec | 10 ++ sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) --- diff --git

Re: Graphics driver support in F21+

2013-10-25 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 04:41:09PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > > One other detail: the intel driver currently has both UMS support for > > the i810 chipset, and KMS support for everything newer. To be > > consistent with the above changes I'll be dropping the i810 support, > > which will then fal

Re: Could someone help me with writing polkit rule?

2013-10-25 Thread Tim Lauridsen
Yes, I think so The policy is to config pkexec to run something as root The rule is to make the group get permission without having to enter a root/admin password Tim On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > 2013/10/25 tim.laurid...@gmail.com : > > It is some time ago it was fi

Re: Could someone help me with writing polkit rule?

2013-10-25 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 25 October 2013 11:22, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > Hello All! > > I 'm trying to write a polkit rule which allows every member of a > particular group ("ejabberd") to run a specific script > ("/sbin/ejabberdctl" or "/usr/sbin/ejabberdctl"). Other users should > not be even able to run it. This soun

F-20 Branched report: 20131025 changes

2013-10-25 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Fri Oct 25 09:15:03 UTC 2013 Broken deps for armhfp -- [blueman] blueman-1.23-7.fc20.armv7hl requires obex-data-server >= 0:0.4.3 blueman-1.23-7.fc20.armv7hl requires gvfs-obexftp [bwm-ng] bwm-ng-0.6

Re: systemd no longer creating /var/log/journal?

2013-10-25 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/24/2013 08:15 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 08:55 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Matthew Miller wrote: >> >>> Back in May, the systemd package was changed to enable journal >>> persistancy by default, by creating /var/log/journ

Announcing the Fedora Server Working Group

2013-10-25 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 tl;dr The Server Working Group has been formed and will be meeting on Wednesday. See the == Logistical Information == section below for details. == General Announcement == As most of you are aware, the Fedora Project is embarking upon a new ventur

Re: Could someone help me with writing polkit rule?

2013-10-25 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2013/10/25 tim.laurid...@gmail.com : > It is some time ago it was fighting with polkit, but as far is I remember > you have to > make a .policy file to get pkexec to work right > > Like this one I use in yumex. > https://github.com/timlau/yumex/blob/master/misc/dk.yumex.backend.policy.in > > It sh

Re: Canonical copy of config.guess/config.sub

2013-10-25 Thread Phil Knirsch
On 10/25/2013 12:07 PM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: W dniu 22.10.2013 17:26, Ralf Corsepius pisze: Also, automake-based projects receive the versions bundled with automake, when running automake rsp. autoreconf. *IF* they run autoreconf. I am working on getting software built for AArch64 for ov

Re: Could someone help me with writing polkit rule?

2013-10-25 Thread tim.laurid...@gmail.com
It is some time ago it was fighting with polkit, but as far is I remember you have to make a .policy file to get pkexec to work right Like this one I use in yumex. https://github.com/timlau/yumex/blob/master/misc/dk.yumex.backend.policy.in It should be installed in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/

Re: Fedora Working Groups: Call for Self-Nominations

2013-10-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 19:56 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> It is up to each WG to determine their product requirements. That >> includes which architectures and target users they are trying to >> produce a product for. >> >> > We've done a

Re: Canonical copy of config.guess/config.sub

2013-10-25 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
W dniu 22.10.2013 17:26, Ralf Corsepius pisze: > Also, automake-based projects receive the versions bundled with > automake, when running automake rsp. autoreconf. *IF* they run autoreconf. I am working on getting software built for AArch64 for over a year now. Main issue is all those projects wh

Re: Ocaml rpath issue

2013-10-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 09:28:53AM -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: > plplot has an OCaml interface, but I see: > > plplot-ocaml.x86_64: E: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath > /usr/lib64/ocaml/stublibs/dllplplot_stubs.so ['/usr/lib64/ocaml', > '/builddir/build/BUILD/plplot-5.9.9/fedora/src'] > plplot-oca

Re: Sunday 13th of October: SSD cache test day

2013-10-25 Thread Florian Weimer
On 10/15/2013 09:13 PM, Rolf Fokkens wrote: On 10/14/2013 10:08 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: Is there a write-up somewhere documenting what strategies are implemented by bcache to keep the SSD and the hard disk contents in sync even in the event of a sudden power loss? This is good place to start:

Re: [389-devel] Please review lib389 ticket 47568: Rename DSAdmin class (2nd)

2013-10-25 Thread thierry bordaz
On 10/25/2013 11:38 AM, Roberto Polli wrote: On Friday 25 October 2013 11:18:53 thierry bordaz wrote: lib389/brooker.py:795: python variable naming convention: I would get stick with the "_" instead of camelCase and change whenever possible. If you prefer to use '_' also for local variable, I

Could someone help me with writing polkit rule?

2013-10-25 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All! I 'm trying to write a polkit rule which allows every member of a particular group ("ejabberd") to run a specific script ("/sbin/ejabberdctl" or "/usr/sbin/ejabberdctl"). Other users should not be even able to run it. This sounds simple, so I quickly wrote this: http://peter.fedorapeop

Re: Differences between Fakeroot and Mock & Suggested method

2013-10-25 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 2:07 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > The koji builders are usually faster than your system anyway Maybe, if building only a specific arch (e.g. koji build --arch-override=x86_64). The arm builders tend to be quite slow in the first place, and I don't think it helps that for

Re: [389-devel] Please review lib389 ticket 47568: Rename DSAdmin class (2nd)

2013-10-25 Thread Roberto Polli
My comments (a github like platform for comment could be really useful) > https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47568/0002-Ticket-47568-Renam > e-DSAdmin-class.patch line: comment lib389/__init__.py:1: the module is lib389, not dirsrv lib389/brooker.py:795: python variable naming convent

Re: Anyone else using and interested in co-maintaining sogo?

2013-10-25 Thread Sandro Mani
On 25.10.2013 03:00, Haïkel Guémar wrote: Le 25/10/2013 01:53, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 17:35 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi, Needing a calendar server for the company, I've ended up packaging the groupware server SOGo [1], which is a neat MS Exchange alternative. SRPM

Re: New maintainer for lirc/Jarod Wilson's packages

2013-10-25 Thread Alec Leamas
On 2013-10-25 01:13, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 11:51 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: On 10/12/2013 09:55 AM, Till Maas wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 07:50:45PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: cx18-firmware -- Firmware for Conexant cx23418-based video capture devices libcrystalhd -- Broa

Re: Graphics driver support in F21+

2013-10-25 Thread Peter Robinson
>> >that you can do successfully complete a graphical DVD default package >> >install with 512MB of RAM, or a text network default package install. I >> >believe a text install may even work in 384MB, though I don't absolutely >> >remember, and you may have to pass the parameter that disable's >> >