Re: svn build issue

2013-10-24 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Mon, 21 Oct, 2013 at 02:12:04 GMT, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Upstream's CMakeLists.txt does this: > FIND_PACKAGE(Subversion) > IF(Subversion_FOUND) > Subversion_WC_INFO(${PROJECT_SOURCE_DIR} GUAYADEQUE) > MESSAGE("Current revision is ${GUAYADEQUE_WC_REVISION}") >

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2013-10-23)

2013-10-24 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/24/2013 02:45 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > >> * ticket #1182 F21/F22 System Wide Change: Python 3 as the > >> Default Implementation - > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_3_as_Default > >> (niri

Re: Fedora Working Groups: Call for Self-Nominations

2013-10-24 Thread inode0
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 19:56 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> It is up to each WG to determine their product requirements. That >> includes which architectures and target users they are trying to >> produce a product for. >> >> > We've done a

Re: Fedora Working Groups: Call for Self-Nominations

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 19:56 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > It is up to each WG to determine their product requirements. That > includes which architectures and target users they are trying to > produce a product for. > > > We've done a lot of work over the last few cycles to really bump ARM up > > t

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 07:01 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 10/21/2013 07:48 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:07:25 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > >>> As a first step, I suggest clearing up the intended usage of "devel" list. > >>> There's too much traffic on that list.

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 17:34 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 10/21/2013 05:25 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > So, discussing Test Updates for stable dist releases belongs onto which > > list? > > According to some in the QA community ( at least in the past ) any GA > release test topic

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 18:08 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > The intended usage of "test" list has always been a problem. Once in a > while, somebody points that out, but there's nobody (no leadership) to > work on a change actively. Is it only for Test releases or also for > Rawhide? Its descript

Re: svn build issue

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 04:12 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > something. And the tarball they ship is a working copy in an outdated format > (outdated SVN version). (IMHO, shipping SVN working copies rather than > exports as tarballs is broken in the first place.) Very much agree with this; if I was

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 16:22 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > to step up and do so? Or we add another state sponsors could query for > this? I think this would very much be the best option. For instance, a couple of us have been reviewing the gooey-karma package (like easy-karma, but with a GUI!): http

Re: gtk3 broken/missing icons on kde

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 14:01 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Hi folks, and welcome to the Fedora 20 Beta blocker bug news... > > can't find any criteria currently that covers application icons (though do > mention it if such a thing exists)... > > At issue here are gtk3 a

Re: Anyone else using and interested in co-maintaining sogo?

2013-10-24 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 25/10/2013 01:53, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 17:35 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi, Needing a calendar server for the company, I've ended up packaging the groupware server SOGo [1], which is a neat MS Exchange alternative. SRPM of sogo plus deps are here: FWIW, OwnCloud wo

Re: systemd no longer creating /var/log/journal?

2013-10-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 08:55:00AM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Is that folder getting deleted for you somehow? Um yes. We made this decision in F19. Never mind. :) -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraprojec

Re: systemd no longer creating /var/log/journal?

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 08:55 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Matthew Miller wrote: > > > Back in May, the systemd package was changed to enable journal persistancy > > by default, by creating /var/log/journal. > > that dir should be owned by systemd: > > repoquery --whatprovides /var/log/journal > sys

Re: Fedora Working Groups: Call for Self-Nominations

2013-10-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2013-10-04 at 07:49 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> > We just started to support ARM, I don't think we want to drop it. >> > I guess those three products are currently most important and >> > other products like Embedded should g

Re: Anyone else using and interested in co-maintaining sogo?

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 17:35 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: > Hi, > > Needing a calendar server for the company, I've ended up packaging the > groupware server SOGo [1], which is a neat MS Exchange alternative. SRPM > of sogo plus deps are here: FWIW, OwnCloud works great as a CalDAV server (doesn't

Re: How long do 0-karma packages stay in testing (in F20) now?

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2013-10-13 at 20:21 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > ... and how do I find out? I checked over all recent messages on > devel-announce, but it doesn't seem to be mentioned. > > Also, automatic obsoleting of builds is a bit of a mixed blessing. On > the one hand it's useful to obsolete

Re: New maintainer for lirc/Jarod Wilson's packages

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 11:51 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: > On 10/12/2013 09:55 AM, Till Maas wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 07:50:45PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: > > > >> cx18-firmware -- Firmware for Conexant cx23418-based video capture > >> devices > >> libcrystalhd -- Broadcom Crystal HD device in

Re: Differences between Fakeroot and Mock & Suggested method

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 16:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > There's only a few times a scratch build isn't practical: if you're > doing a set of chained builds, you can't use scratch builds, as you > can't have one scratch build build against another scratch build. In > this case I use mock: copy

Re: Differences between Fakeroot and Mock & Suggested method

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 16:31 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > You don't really need to use mock either. Just use 'rpmbuild -ba' > directly or 'fedpkg local' which is a wrapper. You don't need to, but there are a few reasons it's superior: 1) Your local environment is almost certainly dirty in

Re: Fedora Working Groups: Call for Self-Nominations

2013-10-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 02:29:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > I really think whatever the New Way Of Doing Things turns out to be, it > needs to include a minimal network install image much like the current > netinst.iso, built for all primary arches, as a primary deliverable. > Whether that's

Re: ABRT is filling private bugs

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 13:15 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:09:23 +0200, I wrote: > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1017695 > > Visited http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/mc and noticed several tickets at > the bottom are "private", too. > > This is a step into

Re: Building and submitting updates for Fedora 20

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-10-07 at 04:03 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 10/07/2013 03:49 AM, Tim Flink wrote: > > On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:09:24 -0500 > > Rex Dieter wrote: > > > >> Michael Schwendt wrote: > >> > >>> On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:11:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >>> > I now see ... the vers

Re: Fedora Working Groups: Call for Self-Nominations

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-10-04 at 07:49 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > We just started to support ARM, I don't think we want to drop it. > > I guess those three products are currently most important and > > other products like Embedded should go into Spins category. At > > least for now. > Yes, we're pro

Re: Graphics driver support in F21+

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 10:46 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > For F21, I plan to orphan the following X video drivers: > > xorg-x11-drv-apm > xorg-x11-drv-cirrus > xorg-x11-drv-geode > xorg-x11-drv-glint > xorg-x11-drv-i128 > xorg-x11-drv-i740 > xorg-x11-drv-mach64 > xorg-x11-drv-mga > xorg-x11-drv-neo

Re: Graphics driver support in F21+

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-10-03 at 10:44 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:35:31 +0100, >Adam Williamson wrote: > > > >that you can do successfully complete a graphical DVD default package > >install with 512MB of RAM, or a text network default package install. I > >believe a text

[Test-Announce] Wayland Test Day cancelled

2013-10-24 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey folks! Just wanted to make sure everyone knows that Wayland Test Day tomorrow has been CANCELLED - the devs don't think it would be valuable at this point in time, they say they already have a list of stuff that needs working on and adding more to the pile would not be of much value. Today is N

EPEL Fedora 5 updates-testing report

2013-10-24 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 5 Security updates need testing: Age URL 550 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5630/bugzilla-3.2.10-5.el5 65 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11276/ssmtp-2.61-21.el5 41 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDO

EPEL Fedora 6 updates-testing report

2013-10-24 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing: Age URL 550 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5620/bugzilla-3.4.14-2.el6 65 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11274/ssmtp-2.61-21.el6 26 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDO

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 24, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > Please let's not mix the two concepts of "tools" quoted above. > > If the proposal is to run something by default on every bootup, it > must be overwhelmingly safe, not apply heuristics that may break the > system even more. Right. If any

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Jeffrey Bastian wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:49:35PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> The bottom line question is, would it be useful to have an fsck_gpt >> run by systemd at either startup or shutdown time? > > I have a system that corrupts the backup GPT on e

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:59 AM, John Reiser wrote: > > Such a tool also should diagnose both overlap and unclaimed space, > and provide some means for repair of these conditions. > For example in the case of "minor" overlap: repair might be "minimum wins", > "maximum wins", or arbitrary edit of ext

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 24, 2013, at 2:33 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:49:35PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> So that's why I ask if it makes sense to have an fsck for GPT disks. > > Sounds sensible. The "fsck" would just check the checksums of primary > & secondary tables, and if

[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Beta to slip by one week

2013-10-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Today at Go/No-Go meeting it was decided to slip Fedora 20 Beta release by one week due to unresolved blocker bugs, see the blocker tracking app [1]. More details in meeting minutes [2]. As a result, ALL MAJOR MILESTONES, and their dependent tasks, will be pushed out by one week [3]. The new Fedor

[Bug 1016186] abi-compliance-checker-1.99.8.5 is available

2013-10-24 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1016186 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA --- Comment #4 from Fedo

[Bug 1022678] perl-Math-NumSeq-66 is available

2013-10-24 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1022678 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA --- Comment #4 from Fedo

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:59 PM, John Reiser wrote: > On 10/24/2013 01:33 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:49:35PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> So that's why I ask if it makes sense to have an fsck for GPT disks. >> >> Sounds sensible. The "fsck" would just check the

Re: [AutoQA] #445: upgradepath is failing rawhide builds due to not being higher version than other releases (was: upgradepath is failing rawhide builds due to no rawhide-pending)

2013-10-24 Thread AutoQA
#445: upgradepath is failing rawhide builds due to not being higher version than other releases +- Reporter: tflink | Owner: Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Hot issues Component: tests | Resolution:

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread Jeffrey Bastian
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:49:35PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > The bottom line question is, would it be useful to have an fsck_gpt > run by systemd at either startup or shutdown time? I have a system that corrupts the backup GPT on every reboot: the CRC32 in the backup GPT is always 0. I run pa

[AutoQA] #445: upgradepath is failing rawhide builds due to no rawhide-pending

2013-10-24 Thread AutoQA
#445: upgradepath is failing rawhide builds due to no rawhide-pending -+ Reporter: tflink | Owner: Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Hot issues Component: tests | Keywords: Blocked By: |

Ocaml rpath issue

2013-10-24 Thread Orion Poplawski
plplot has an OCaml interface, but I see: plplot-ocaml.x86_64: E: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath /usr/lib64/ocaml/stublibs/dllplplot_stubs.so ['/usr/lib64/ocaml', '/builddir/build/BUILD/plplot-5.9.9/fedora/src'] plplot-ocaml.x86_64: E: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath /usr/lib64/ocaml/stublibs/dll

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:11:08 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >Several have not been displayed in the review queue, none has been displayed > >on the needsponsor list, and Bruno uses three different submitter email > >addresses in bugzilla. > > Me Bruno? No, another Bruno, previously referred to

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread John Reiser
On 10/24/2013 01:33 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:49:35PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> So that's why I ask if it makes sense to have an fsck for GPT disks. > > Sounds sensible. The "fsck" would just check the checksums of primary > & secondary tables, and if an error

Re: [fedora-java] Headless JRE in Fedora

2013-10-24 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
Quoting Fernando Nasser (2013-10-24 16:06:27) > Also, will this change be ackported into the Java packages of RHEL_5 and > RHEL-6? Doesn't matter. Fedora != RHEL > Our products use only one spec file, we'll have to add lots of %if > in our spec files (and we have 300+ of them). Well then you c

Re: [fedora-java] Headless JRE in Fedora

2013-10-24 Thread Fernando Nasser
Also, will this change be ackported into the Java packages of RHEL_5 and RHEL-6? Our products use only one spec file, we'll have to add lots of %if in our spec files (and we have 300+ of them). - Original Message - > From: "Stanislav Ochotnicky" > To: "Jiri Vanek" , devel@lists.fedora

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2013-10-23)

2013-10-24 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/24/2013 02:45 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: >> * ticket #1182 F21/F22 System Wide Change: Python 3 as the >> Default Implementation - >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_3_as_Default >> (nirik, 18:10:29) * AGREED: Feature is approved,

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-24 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 13:17:53 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: Several have not been displayed in the review queue, none has been displayed on the needsponsor list, and Bruno uses three different submitter email addresses in bugzilla. Me Bruno? I should be just using br...@wolff.to these d

File Path-FindDev-0.4.1.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by jplesnik

2013-10-24 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Path-FindDev: a11511306156719502d3f4a6e1be4a27 Path-FindDev-0.4.1.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ma

F-20 Branched report: 20131024 changes

2013-10-24 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Thu Oct 24 09:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for armhfp -- [blueman] blueman-1.23-7.fc20.armv7hl requires obex-data-server >= 0:0.4.3 blueman-1.23-7.fc20.armv7hl requires gvfs-obexftp [bwm-ng] bwm-ng-0.6

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
> > See an example of mindi-busybox, packager from HP still can't get > > sponsored after 5 years. > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476234 > > It has had "fedora-review" flag set to '?', which means somebody > is working on it. I've cleaned up the tickets and their dependencie

Re: [fedora-java] Headless JRE in Fedora

2013-10-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > Quoting Jiri Vanek (2013-10-21 18:45:46) > > Hi all! > > > > With > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.60-2.4.3.0.fc20 > > beeing stable, > > would like to make this more visible: > > > > The jdk in Fedora, being inspired in Debian, n

Re: Moving xine-lib and dependent apps to RPM Fusion Free for F17?

2013-10-24 Thread Xavier Bachelot
Hi, On 10/13/2013 11:36 AM, Xavier Bachelot wrote: Hi maintainers, On 01/05/2012 08:56 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: (d) Move the whole thing (back) to RPM Fusion (where it originally was, before we started needing xine-lib for Amarok and Phonon, which both no longer use it). It would go t

[perl-Net-Amazon-EC2] Attempt at saner SPEC file formatting

2013-10-24 Thread Lubomir Rintel
commit 22dc39acb1f3d4125618bcb967ff7d090e06af49 Author: Lubomir Rintel Date: Thu Oct 24 11:39:54 2013 +0200 Attempt at saner SPEC file formatting I'm doing this semi-automatically across all packages I maintain, since some are several years old and since then several have suffe

Re: systemd tmpfiles: ensuring directories exist after package installation

2013-10-24 Thread Sandro Mani
On 23.10.2013 23:25, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 07:22:16PM +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi, In cases where a package ships a .tmpfiles file which manages i.e. the /var/run/ directory, what is the best way |to make sure that the directory exists after installing the package, w

Re: [fedora-java] Headless JRE in Fedora

2013-10-24 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
Quoting Jiri Vanek (2013-10-21 18:45:46) > Hi all! > > With > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.60-2.4.3.0.fc20 > beeing stable, > would like to make this more visible: > > The jdk in Fedora, being inspired in Debian, now supports headless version. > During the

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:49:35PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > So that's why I ask if it makes sense to have an fsck for GPT disks. Sounds sensible. The "fsck" would just check the checksums of primary & secondary tables, and if an error in either (but not both) is detected it would restore from

Re: pycairo

2013-10-24 Thread tim.laurid...@gmail.com
python3-cairo is a separate package, it contains the latest upstream release 1.10.0 but it looks like the License is wrong in the .spec (License: MPLv1.1 or LGPLv2) https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/python3-cairo/sources/spec/ pycairo is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:01:18 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > Errr... > > I just hope if a packager is also its upstream, we can sponsor him > quickly as well. Well, people are different, and it may not always happen "quickly", if the package suffers from issues and/or the Fedora specific stuff