Re: New package written in Python, without python-*

2013-07-01 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > Hi everybody, > > I have a question about the name of a new package and would like > everyone's opinion on this issue, because in our wiki > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PythonNamingDependingOnImplementation) > practically forces whatever is written in

New package written in Python, without python-*

2013-07-01 Thread Marcelo Barbosa - Fedora Ambassador
Hi everybody, I have a question about the name of a new package and would like everyone's opinion on this issue, because in our wiki (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PythonNamingDependingOnImplementation) practically forces whatever is written in Python to have name: python-% {name}, bu

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Pierre-Yves Luyten wrote: > Not sure if it makes any sense but maybe could we have something like > "freeze tag changes until desc is better". > > I propose this because testers will not _really_ want to -1 karma, and > as a maintainer it might be a bit hard, but wi

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Pierre-Yves Luyten
Le lundi 01 juillet 2013 à 14:01 -0500, Michael Catanzaro a écrit : > On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 11:25 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > You appear to be missing the contention made by me and others that > > the > > update description is not and should not be a simple repetition of > > any > > ot

Re: libgd breakage

2013-07-01 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 06/29/2013 09:50 AM, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade wrote: 2013/6/28 Adam Williamson : Almost there, but still cannot generate chroot in mock. DEBUG util.py:264: Error: Package: gnuplot-4.6.2-2.fc20.x86_64 (build) DEBUG util.py:264: Requires: libgd.so.2()(64bit) gnuplot ap

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Björn Persson wrote: > Perhaps you would like to write an RFC specifying the Source Code, > Changelogs and Release Notes Publishing Protocol and submit it to the > IETF, so that there will be a sane way to automatically find and parse > those changelogs and release

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Björn Persson
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > As I think I said pretty clearly, there are two streams of > documentation: the detailed changelogs and the release notes (which > summarise changes in a human-readable form for a whole release). > > These should already exist, upstream. > > No need for them to be dupl

Re: find-lang.sh search path

2013-07-01 Thread Antonio Trande
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/01/2013 10:31 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:57:46 +0200, Antonio wrote: > >> On Mon 01 Jul 2013 08:53:44 PM CEST, Michael Schwendt wrote: >>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:36:25 +0200, Antonio wrote: >>> In qgifer package b

Re: find-lang.sh search path

2013-07-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:57:46 +0200, Antonio wrote: > On Mon 01 Jul 2013 08:53:44 PM CEST, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:36:25 +0200, Antonio wrote: > > > >> In qgifer package building (Bug#979702), I need to include language > >> *.qm files from source software. > >> > >> Curr

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 11:25:51AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On 2013-07-01 1:28, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >Since this topic comes up every few months, and no one's pointed > >out the obvious answer yet, I'll say it: > > > >* Instead of making up more rules, make the tooling better so > >we

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Johannes Lips
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Since this topic comes up every few months, and no one's pointed out the obvious answer yet, I'll say it: * Instead of making up more rules, make the tooling better so we don't have to repeat update descriptions in multiple places. * Wouldn't it make sense to perhaps ap

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 02:01:29PM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > And as far as the tooling is concerned... this is the matter of writing > just one extra sentence, so even if we did have awesome technology to > write the update description for you from the RPM changelog, and even if > it was c

Re: [Owner-change] Fedora packages ownership change

2013-07-01 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 20:48 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:14:46 + (UTC), nobody fedoraproject org wrote: > > > 9 packages were orphaned > > > php-pecl-apc [devel] was orphaned by remi > > APC caches and optimizes PHP intermediate code > > https://admin.fedo

Re: find-lang.sh search path

2013-07-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:36:25 +0200, Antonio wrote: > In qgifer package building (Bug#979702), I need to include language > *.qm files from source software. > > Currently, 'cmake' command puts language files into /usr/share/locale > directory but find-lang.sh doesn't locate them in $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 11:25 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > You appear to be missing the contention made by me and others that > the > update description is not and should not be a simple repetition of > any > other content. It is not the RPM changelog. It is not the git commit > log. It is n

Re: find-lang.sh search path

2013-07-01 Thread Antonio
On Mon 01 Jul 2013 08:53:44 PM CEST, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:36:25 +0200, Antonio wrote: > >> In qgifer package building (Bug#979702), I need to include language >> *.qm files from source software. >> >> Currently, 'cmake' command puts language files into /usr/share/locale

Re: find-lang.sh search path

2013-07-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Antonio wrote: > In qgifer package building (Bug#979702), I need to include language > *.qm files from source software. > > Currently, 'cmake' command puts language files into /usr/share/locale > directory but find-lang.sh doesn't locate them in $RPM_BUILD_ROOT. Wh

Re: [Owner-change] Fedora packages ownership change

2013-07-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:14:46 + (UTC), nobody fedoraproject org wrote: > 9 packages were orphaned > php-pecl-apc [devel] was orphaned by remi > APC caches and optimizes PHP intermediate code > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/php-pecl-apc Could the script be enhanced

find-lang.sh search path

2013-07-01 Thread Antonio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. In qgifer package building (Bug#979702), I need to include language *.qm files from source software. Currently, 'cmake' command puts language files into /usr/share/locale directory but find-lang.sh doesn't locate them in $RPM_BUILD_ROOT. Why

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On 2013-07-01 1:28, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Since this topic comes up every few months, and no one's pointed out the obvious answer yet, I'll say it: * Instead of making up more rules, make the tooling better so we don't have to repeat update descriptions in multiple places. * You appear to

[Owner-change] Fedora packages ownership change

2013-07-01 Thread nobody
Change in ownership over the last 168 hours === 9 packages were orphaned mysql-connector-c++ [devel] was orphaned by remi MySQL database connector for C++ https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/mysql-connector-c++

Re: [rawhide] kernel-install and grubby and ... what's going on?

2013-07-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 01:21:16PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > - kernel.spec now requires systemd > kernel-install in it> Which is fine, because it's not like we're gonna support older kernels or running without systemd. > - kernel.spec calls kernel-install instead of new-kernel-pkg (which is > p

Re: [rawhide] kernel-install and grubby and ... what's going on?

2013-07-01 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > It looks like the venerable calls to new-kernel-pkg (from grubby) have been > replaced by kernel-install, which checks if /sbin/new-kernel-pkg exists and > runs that if it does, and otherwise does this stuff > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 06/29/2013 05:12 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: I do agree that the RPM changelog is completely useless in the case of most of my packages, and if there is something interesting there it would benefit from a slightly longer description in the update summary rather than some magical automatic i

Re: Packaging Go libraries for Fedora

2013-07-01 Thread Lars Seipel
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 02:39:11PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Now as far as I can tell, we can just ignore the $GOPATH stuff, and > instead drop files into the right places in %_libdir/golang. It works > in my single, limited experiment, but I've no idea if this is the > Right Thing to do.

Re: Fedora Gooey Karma as GSOC project

2013-07-01 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 06:48:55PM +0200, Branislav Blaskovic wrote: > My proposal [1] is available on fedoraproject wiki page where you can find > main features of this new tool. > If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me here on mailing > list, off-list or br...@freenode.o

[rawhide] kernel-install and grubby and ... what's going on?

2013-07-01 Thread Matthew Miller
It looks like the venerable calls to new-kernel-pkg (from grubby) have been replaced by kernel-install, which checks if /sbin/new-kernel-pkg exists and runs that if it does, and otherwise does this stuff http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/BootLoaderSpec/. I'm trying to update the cloud

Re: Packaging Go libraries for Fedora

2013-07-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 04:14:10PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 07/01/2013 03:39 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >But for libraries that aren't bundled with the Go compiler, it looks > >like the Go designers intended you to keep them in your home directory: > > > >http://golang.org/doc/code.ht

APC is dead - Welcome APCU

2013-07-01 Thread Remi Collet
Hi, php-pecl-apc have been retired from rawhide repository. php-pecl-apcu is a dropin alternative for user cache and is also available in F18, F19 and EPEL6 (testing). It's time to switch and test. Remi. P.S. opcode cache is now provided by zend-opcache (php 5.5) or php-pecl-zendopcache (php

Re: F19 upgrade pulls in a lot of i686 packages

2013-07-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:03:58 +0200, Heiko Adams wrote: > But why doesn't prevent yum packages with arch != ($Basearch, noarch) > from being pulled in by default? Yum developers can answer that. Probably such a prevention technique is not implemented, because it would require checks that might not

[perl-threads] Specify all dependencies

2013-07-01 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 6fc59cad87e5bdbad64a60b82cfc2f7b2a4fef78 Author: Petr Písař Date: Mon Jul 1 17:05:43 2013 +0200 Specify all dependencies perl-threads.spec |7 ++- 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-threads.spec b/perl-threads.spec index 1725150..b1c2105

[perl-Test-Vars] Update dependencies

2013-07-01 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
commit ed8834dd81489416f76ffd3fe5d223c00fc5379d Author: Jitka Plesnikova Date: Mon Jul 1 17:05:35 2013 +0200 Update dependencies perl-Test-Vars.spec | 21 +++-- 1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Test-Vars.spec b/perl-Test-Vars.spec i

Re: Architecture specific header files

2013-07-01 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 28.6.2013 15:04, Jakub Jelinek napsal(a): On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:58:12PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 25.6.2013 15:41, Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Is there some common practice, where to place architecture specific header files? From output of the following command, I can't see any such pla

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 10:45:10AM +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: >> * Richard W.M. Jones [01/07/2013 09:28] : >> > >> > * Instead of making up more rules, make the tooling better so >> > we don't have to repeat update descriptions in mult

Re: Packaging Go libraries for Fedora

2013-07-01 Thread Florian Weimer
On 07/01/2013 03:39 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: But for libraries that aren't bundled with the Go compiler, it looks like the Go designers intended you to keep them in your home directory: http://golang.org/doc/code.html#Organization It's also expected that you keep around source code and re

Re: Fedora 19 status is ALIVE, GA on July 02, 2013

2013-07-01 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2013-06-29 at 13:59 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 10:05:56AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > I like the idea of 19.1 pretty unofficially or untested, which fix > > > some issues on mac installs. Which is basically someone run pungi > > > with new boot installer stuf

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 10:45:10AM +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Richard W.M. Jones [01/07/2013 09:28] : > > > > * Instead of making up more rules, make the tooling better so > > we don't have to repeat update descriptions in multiple places. * > > Note that you have to describe your update a

Packaging Go libraries for Fedora

2013-07-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
(The same topic came up on this list about a month ago, with no particular resolution). Fedora 18+ now has a proper Go compiler, and if you get the version in updates-testing, it's even a working Go compiler :-) Go seems to have a "unique" approach to packaging libraries. It looks as if everythi

rawhide report: 20130701 changes

2013-07-01 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Jul 1 08:15:03 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [avgtime] avgtime-0-0.6.git20130201.fc20.x86_64 requires libphobos-ldc.so.60()(64bit) [contour] contour-0.3-2.fc19.x86_64 requires libsolidcontroliface

Re: Heads up: Upcoming python-pillow 2.2 breaks "import _imaging" -> should be python-pillow 2.1, not 2.2

2013-07-01 Thread Sandro Mani
Slight confusion on my part, the new version is python-pillow 2.1, not 2.2. Sandro -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: How noarch FFI wrapper package can dependes on .so file

2013-07-01 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Jul 1, 2013 2:43 AM, "Vít Ondruch" wrote: > Hi, > > I recently did review or rubygem-gssapi [1], which is FFI wrapper above libgssapi_krb5.so.2. > > Now, we'd like to specify dependency directly on this library, but since rubygem-gssapi is noarch, it seems there is no way how to specify this de

How noarch FFI wrapper package can dependes on .so file

2013-07-01 Thread Vít Ondruch
Hi, I recently did review or rubygem-gssapi [1], which is FFI wrapper above libgssapi_krb5.so.2. Now, we'd like to specify dependency directly on this library, but since rubygem-gssapi is noarch, it seems there is no way how to specify this dependency better then "Requires: krb5-libs", unles

Compile-time shared library name mismatching base name (SDL)

2013-07-01 Thread Petr Pisar
Hello list, I got an interresting report regarging SDL library file names . If you install SDL and SDL-devel, you will get these files: root@fedora-20:~ # ls -o /usr/lib64/libSDL* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root 20 Jul 1 10:43 /usr/lib64/libSDL-1.2.so.

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Richard W.M. Jones [01/07/2013 09:28] : > > * Instead of making up more rules, make the tooling better so > we don't have to repeat update descriptions in multiple places. * Note that you have to describe your update a grand total of once. Emmanuel -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Since this topic comes up every few months, and no one's pointed out the obvious answer yet, I'll say it: * Instead of making up more rules, make the tooling better so we don't have to repeat update descriptions in multiple places. * Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://

Heads-up: perl-BSD-Resource license change

2013-07-01 Thread Petr Šabata
All BSD::Resource users, Please note that according to upstream, the license of this package isn't actually 'same as Perl' (GPL+ or Artistic) but rather 'LGPLv2 or Artistic 2.0'. Regards, Petr pgpdG2G6JRAQh.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http

[Test-Announce] 2013-07-01 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2013-07-01 Thread Adam Williamson
or a while, so let's get together to look back on F19 and forward to F20. This is a reminder of the upcoming QA meeting. Please add any topic suggestions to the meeting wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130701 The current proposed agenda is included below. == Propose