Re: libgd breakage

2013-06-27 Thread Volker Fröhlich
On 27/06/13 17:31, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 06/26/2013 08:01 AM, Volker Fröhlich wrote: GDAL is currently broken because it needs a rebuild for Poppler, but the Texlive build is broken, as far as I can see. texlive has now been rebuilt. We've got a working GDAL build again. Volker -- dev

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 18:41 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 23:38 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > Why would you want this? I mean, we rate-limit per-service anyway, so > > the issue of one app flooding evreything else should be mostly > > non-existant. And hence, what yo

How to remove package and all dependent packages from EL branch?

2013-06-27 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello. I've got bugreport that Erlang doesn't work on EL6 PPC64 achitecture. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958953 I don't have resources to fix this issue, and nobody volunteered to fix it so far, so I'd like to limit Erlang, and Erlang applications and libraries on EL6 to x86/x86_6

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread P J P
   Hello Jan, - Original Message - > From: Jan Kaluza > Subject: Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default > > I think difference between systemd and logrotate in this case is that > logrotate is not owner of the logs it rotates. It has no control of writing > to them. I haven't check

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Jan Kaluza
- Original Message - >    Hello Lennart, Colin, > > - Original Message - > > From: Lennart Poettering > > Subject: Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default > > > > The systemd-journald takes care of all of: receiving messages, writing > > them to storage, and rotating the sto

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread P J P
   Hello Lennart, Colin, - Original Message - > From: Lennart Poettering > Subject: Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default > > The systemd-journald takes care of all of: receiving messages, writing > them to storage, and rotating the storage. > > We do synchronous rotation before e

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Jan Kaluza
- Original Message - > On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 23:38 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > Why would you want this? I mean, we rate-limit per-service anyway, so > > the issue of one app flooding evreything else should be mostly > > non-existant. And hence, what you are asking for is some

Re: Media Sizes SRPMS DVD

2013-06-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:52:02 +0100 Frank Murphy wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 08:44:36 -0500 > Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > > > > no, because pungi the tool that creates the source dvd doesnt > > support split media. I actually want to stop making

[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 QA Retrospective is up for your feedback now!

2013-06-27 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, folks. So I've belatedly put the F19 QA Retrospective page up here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_QA_Retrospective For the newer folks or those older folks who've forgotten, the Retrospective page aims to gather feedback on the test/validation process as we go through it. It's a p

Fedora 19 status is ALIVE, GA on July 02, 2013

2013-06-27 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
At the Fedora 19 Final Go/No-Go Meeting that just occurred, it was agreed to Go with the Fedora 19 by Fedora QA, development, release engineering and FPM. Fedora 19 will be publicly available on Tuesday, July 02, 2013. Thank you everyone for heroic effort on this release! Meeting details can be

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 23:38 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Why would you want this? I mean, we rate-limit per-service anyway, so > the issue of one app flooding evreything else should be mostly > non-existant. And hence, what you are asking for is some policy control > about what to delete fir

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 27.06.13 15:46, Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) wrote: > On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 01:44 +0800, P J P wrote: > > - Original Message - > > > > > From: Colin Walters > > > Subject: Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default > > > It's worth noting that all of these problems go awa

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 28.06.13 01:44, P J P (pj.pan...@yahoo.co.in) wrote: > > From: Colin Walters > > Subject: Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default > > It's worth noting that all of these problems go away with the systemd > > journal. > >   Oh, how does systemd rotate files? We do synchronous rota

[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Final Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2013-06-27 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit Security Lab Spins are over their size limit of 700 MiB. As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Final Release Candidate 3 (RC3) is now available for testing. Content information, including changes, can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5623#comment:

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 03:46:22PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > (Although it is presently not possible to easily have rotation limits > per-service and such, which is something fairly easy to do with sysvinit > + logrotate). Is there an RFE for this? Like the time-based rotation limit added earli

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Jan Kaluza wrote: >> I have the same opinion for now, but I will at least try to evaluate >> that locking idea. Maybe it can end up like more reliable >> copytruncate directive. > > I've been looking at that

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 01:44 +0800, P J P wrote: > - Original Message - > > > From: Colin Walters > > Subject: Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default > > It's worth noting that all of these problems go away with the systemd > > journal. > > Oh, how does systemd rotate files? Th

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread P J P
  Hello Mirek, - Original Message - > From: Miloslav Trmač > Subject: Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default > > * logrotate reads all contents of file until EOF > * application appends one more data line > * logrotate calls truncate()    I see. Thanks for these input, will conside

[Test-Announce] F19 Final status: back to good old Panic Stations

2013-06-27 Thread Adam Williamson
We should've known it was too good to last! Martin Banas fortunately caught a major bug in RC2 overnight: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=978852 so we are currently testing RC3 which includes a fix for that. RC3 has not technically been released yet, but the main images - DVD, netins

Re: Firefox in Rawhide is out of date

2013-06-27 Thread Elio Maldonado Batiz
On 06/27/2013 08:12 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: Hi Martin, Definitely not a rpm bug. rpm's version comparison semantics are well defined and 4.10.0 is strictly higher than 4.10. Martin, Kai, and I have discussed itand have proposal consistent with yours. I would say one of the 3 things should hap

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 7:58 PM, P J P wrote: > IMHO, renaming a > file which is being written to by another application does no feel right. > >> _Any_ data loss during normal operation is _unacceptable_. > > Sure! As per the experiment so far, there is no data loss at all. There can be a data

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread P J P
   Hello Miloslav, - Original Message - > From: Miloslav Trmač > Subject: Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default > > That's a possible argument for changing the ndjbdns logging/logrotate > configuration, AFAICS not an argument for changing the default.     Yes, 'ndjbdns' has alrea

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread P J P
- Original Message - > From: Colin Walters > Subject: Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default > It's worth noting that all of these problems go away with the systemd > journal.   Oh, how does systemd rotate files? --- Regards    -Prasad http://feedmug.com -- devel mailing list

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread P J P
   Hi, - Original Message - > From: Jan Kaluza > Subject: Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default > Right now, without locking, logrotate would loss more messages if the > logs are big, because copying takes more time. It would be interesting > to mention the file size in your tests t

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Jan Kaluza wrote: > I have the same opinion for now, but I will at least try to evaluate > that locking idea. Maybe it can end up like more reliable > copytruncate directive. I've been looking at that option - AFAICS mandatory file locking, at least currently, doe

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Jan Kaluza
- Original Message - > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 5:19 PM, P J P wrote: > > - Original Message - > >> From: Jan Kaluža > >> Subject: Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default > >> This is usually fixed by sending some signal to daemon in postscript > >> informing it that logs shou

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 5:19 PM, P J P wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: Jan Kaluža >> Subject: Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default >> This is usually fixed by sending some signal to daemon in postscript >> informing it that logs should be reopened. That way, no messages are

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 14:29 +0200, Jan Kaluža wrote: > This is usually fixed by sending some signal to daemon in postscript > informing it that logs should be reopened. That way, no messages are > lost. The worst thing which can happen is that some messages get logged > in the rotated file for

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Jan Kaluza
- Original Message - >    Hello Jan, > > - Original Message - > > From: Jan Kaluža > > Subject: Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default > > > > I'm not sure right now if the benefits of the "copytruncate" usage are > > strong enough in comparison with the possibility to lost

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread P J P
   Hello Jan, - Original Message - > From: Jan Kaluža > Subject: Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default > > I'm not sure right now if the benefits of the "copytruncate" usage are > strong enough in comparison with the possibility to lost the messages > during rotation.    I did

Re: libgd breakage

2013-06-27 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 06/26/2013 08:01 AM, Volker Fröhlich wrote: GDAL is currently broken because it needs a rebuild for Poppler, but the Texlive build is broken, as far as I can see. texlive has now been rebuilt. -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA, Boulder/CoRA Off

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread P J P
  Hello Jan, - Original Message - > From: Jan Kaluža > Subject: Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default > This is usually fixed by sending some signal to daemon in postscript > informing it that logs should be reopened. That way, no messages are > lost. The worst thing which can ha

Re: Firefox in Rawhide is out of date

2013-06-27 Thread Kalev Lember
Hi Martin, Definitely not a rpm bug. rpm's version comparison semantics are well defined and 4.10.0 is strictly higher than 4.10. I would say one of the 3 things should happen to fix this: 1) Build the latest nspr release not as version 4.10, but as 4.10.0 (As I understand it, it's a manual

F-19 Branched report: 20130627 changes

2013-06-27 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Thu Jun 27 09:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [avgtime] avgtime-0-0.5.git20120724.fc19.x86_64 requires libphobos-ldc.so.60()(64bit) [derelict] derelict-ogg-3-13.20130516gitd8aa11d.fc19.i686 require

rawhide report: 20130627 changes

2013-06-27 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Jun 27 08:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [chmsee] chmsee-2.0-5.git0acc572a.fc20.x86_64 requires libxpcom.so()(64bit) [ekiga] ekiga-4.0.1-1.fc19.x86_64 requires libedata-book-1.2.so.17()(64bit)

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread Jan Kaluža
On 06/27/2013 01:54 PM, P J P wrote: Hi, Recently I've seen multiple issues related to new file creation by logrotate(8). A race condition described by [1], between creation of a new file and setting file permissions and acl(5). Another I came across in ndjbdns [2], as it continued to writ

Re: Media Sizes SRPMS DVD

2013-06-27 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 08:44:36 -0500, > Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> >> >> no, because pungi the tool that creates the source dvd doesnt support >> split media. I actually want to stop making source dvds all together. >> but that will need

logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-27 Thread P J P
   Hi, Recently I've seen multiple issues related to new file creation by logrotate(8). A race condition described by [1], between creation of a new file and setting file permissions and acl(5).  Another I came across in ndjbdns [2], as it continued to write to an open, but rotated log file. Wo

Re: XEN and Fedora-19 domU

2013-06-27 Thread Marcel J.E. Mol
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 02:27:32PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 14:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:> On Wed, 2013-06-26 > at 23:21 +0200, Marcel J.E. Mol wrote:> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 01:22:21PM > -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:> > > On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 20:40 +0200, M

Re: Firefox in Rawhide is out of date

2013-06-27 Thread Martin Stransky
Yes, that's it. But it looks like a rpm bug to me. Or we need to fix the nspr package to provide a correct modversion...no not a xulrunner/firefox issue after all. ma. On 27.6.2013 12:26, Sandro Mani wrote: The issue seems to be that the minimum-required nspr version in xulrunner is determine

Re: Firefox in Rawhide is out of date

2013-06-27 Thread Sandro Mani
The issue seems to be that the minimum-required nspr version in xulrunner is determined by pkg-config --modversion nspr which returns 4.10.0, the package version however is 4.10 (without the trailing .0). This causes the builddep resolution to fail when building firefox. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130625 changes

2013-06-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 02:41:42PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 13:50 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 12:46:05PM +, Fedora Branched Report wrote: > > > Compose started at Tue Jun 25 09:15:02 UTC 2013 > > > > > > Broken deps for x86_64 > > >

Re: libgd breakage

2013-06-27 Thread Volker Fröhlich
On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 16:01 +0200, Volker Fröhlich wrote: > On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 09:52 -0300, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade wrote: > > 2013/6/26 Remi Collet : > > > Le 26/06/2013 14:36, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade a écrit : > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> It is taking a bit too long for some depe