Re: icedtea-web installed and enabled by default in Fedora 19

2013-06-18 Thread Dhiru Kholia
On 06/18/13 at 01:50pm, Josh Bressers wrote: > > Is java environment the only security flawed software distributed in > > Fedora by default? I don't think so. Please, correct me if I'm > > wrong. Does it mean Fedora should drop about 1/3 of packages > > because they have security bugs? What about

[Test-Announce] 2013-06-19 @ 16:00 UTC - F19 Final Blocker Bug Review #7

2013-06-18 Thread Tim Flink
# F19 Final Blocker Review meeting #7 # Date: 2013-06-19 # Time: 16:00 UTC (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT) # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net F19 final freeze has set in and it's once again time to review blocker and freeze exception bugs! We'll be running through the final blockers an

Fedora 19 Final status, testing/karma requests and needed fixes

2013-06-18 Thread Adam Williamson
It feels like time for a status summary mail again! Fedora 19 Final TC5 is the current compose: it contains most of the final churn for F19, change should be fairly restricted from here on out. So this is a good time to take stock of where we are and get all testing done. tl;dr summary --

F-19 Branched report: 20130618 changes

2013-06-18 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Jun 18 17:12:36 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [avgtime] avgtime-0-0.5.git20120724.fc19.x86_64 requires libphobos-ldc.so.60()(64bit) [derelict] derelict-ogg-3-13.20130516gitd8aa11d.fc19.i686 require

Re: icedtea-web installed and enabled by default in Fedora 19

2013-06-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/18/2013 02:59 PM, Ismael Olea wrote: When I needed a java plugin (particularly for some government websites) I always should got to install the Sun/Oracle one. In those cases icedtea-web has been 100% useless to me :-/ The plugin used to be problematic before but have you tried it re

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-06-19)

2013-06-18 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2013-06-19 18:00 UTC' Links to all tickets below

Re: "rpmbuild --rebuild" does not result in hardened build

2013-06-18 Thread Dan Horák
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:41:37 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 18.06.2013 19:18, schrieb Panu Matilainen: > > On 06/18/2013 04:21 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> can someone lokk at this? > >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=975273 > >> > >> why are the hardening-macros not respecte

Re: "rpmbuild --rebuild" does not result in hardened build

2013-06-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.06.2013 19:18, schrieb Panu Matilainen: > On 06/18/2013 04:21 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> can someone lokk at this? >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=975273 >> >> why are the hardening-macros not respected with "rpmbuild"? > > Because of this (from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/

Re: icedtea-web installed and enabled by default in Fedora 19

2013-06-18 Thread Ismael Olea
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > We cannot really remove installed packages after the release, so I'm > > wondering if we still can fix this prior to release. > > We could, I suppose. What do people think? (It's just one line in comps.) > When I needed a java plugin

Re: icedtea-web installed and enabled by default in Fedora 19

2013-06-18 Thread Josh Bressers
> > Is java environment the only security flawed software distributed in > Fedora by default? I don't think so. Please, correct me if I'm wrong. > Does it mean Fedora should drop about 1/3 of packages because they have > security bugs? What about Linux Kernel? It's also buggy. Should it be not > i

Re: icedtea-web installed and enabled by default in Fedora 19

2013-06-18 Thread Pete Travis
On Jun 17, 2013 9:03 AM, "Bill Nottingham" wrote: ... > > > > > > > I think given all the trouble this plugin has caused recently, it wouldn't > > be wise to install it for everyone. If you need it, great, install it, but > > if a users doesn't need it, it's really just creating a level of risk we

Re: "rpmbuild --rebuild" does not result in hardened build

2013-06-18 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 06/18/2013 04:21 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: can someone lokk at this? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=975273 why are the hardening-macros not respected with "rpmbuild"? Because of this (from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=975273#c3): [builduser@buildserver64:~]$ c

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130618 changes

2013-06-18 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:01:06 + Fedora Branched Report wrote: > Compose started at Tue Jun 18 09:15:03 UTC 2013 > > Compose finished at Tue Jun 18 12:49:06 UTC 2013 No broken deps! Hurray! But seriously, the reason for this was that the langtable update that anaconda requires missed the las

Re: bugzilla.redhat.com vs upstream bug trackers

2013-06-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "MT" == Miloslav Trmač writes: MT> For example, right now the easiest way to become a Fedora packager MT> is still to learn RPM packaging (only) and add a new package (which MT> will, by now, fairly often be something obscure with a few hundred MT> of users), That is actually quite untrue

Re: bugzilla.redhat.com vs upstream bug trackers

2013-06-18 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > The tl;dr summary is that there shouldn't be a single > standard for what we expect of packagers, especially in the context of > what to expect when bugs are filed against their packages on Red Hat's > bugzilla. That's certainly true, with a

Re: bugzilla.redhat.com vs upstream bug trackers

2013-06-18 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:58:04 +0800 Christopher Meng wrote: > Is it possible to add a virtual team for each package(or some > packages with a lot of bugs)? yes, we have done so for a number of places. Currently the 'teams' are just an alias however. Hopefully in pkgdb2.0 we will finally have some

"rpmbuild --rebuild" does not result in hardened build

2013-06-18 Thread Reindl Harald
can someone lokk at this? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=975273 why are the hardening-macros not respected with "rpmbuild"? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/d

Re: Need some advices moving a fedora package from sysVinit to systemd t

2013-06-18 Thread Jean-Marc Pigeon
Hello lennart, Lets forget about question#1 (conditionnal dependancy) for now About question#2 (systemctl within ExecStartPre script). You really shouldn't do stuff like that as part of the normal boot process. Starting and then restarting things in the same boot process is really the wrong th

F-19 Branched report: 20130618 changes

2013-06-18 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Jun 18 09:15:03 UTC 2013 Compose finished at Tue Jun 18 12:49:06 UTC 2013 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: icedtea-web installed and enabled by default in Fedora 19

2013-06-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/17/2013 06:31 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:03:26AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> The one issue I can see with removing it is that the plugin >> finder you then get in Firefox if you hit a Java site doesn't >> work to

Re: Need some advices moving a fedora package from sysVinit to systemd t

2013-06-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 17.06.13 19:50, Jean-Marc Pigeon (j...@safe.ca) wrote: > I just understood I need "Requires=" instead of "After=" as the application > "require" the data-base daemon to be up and running in order to be > operational. Requirement dependencies and ordering dependencies in systemd are orthog

rawhide report: 20130618 changes

2013-06-18 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Jun 18 08:15:03 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [PyQwt] PyQwt-5.2.0-20.fc19.2.i686 requires sip-api(9) >= 0:9.1 PyQwt-5.2.0-20.fc19.2.x86_64 requires sip-api(9) >= 0:9.1 [aries-blueprint] arie

Re: bugzilla.redhat.com vs upstream bug trackers

2013-06-18 Thread David Tardon
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 09:13:23AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 06/18/2013 06:24 AM, David Tardon wrote: > > > >>Agreed but at least they should know how to debug their own > >>components which when I started the how to debug initiative a while > >>back in QA revealed many of them did

Re: Retrospective license change heads-up: Roundcubemail changed to "GPLv3+ with exceptions and GPLv3+ and GPLv2 and LGPLv2+ and CC-BY-SA and (MIT or GPLv2)"

2013-06-18 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hey, fun times! > > I'm not the roundcubemail maintainer, but as a user and provenpackager I > more or less co-maintain it with Jon. I was just doing a 'routine' bump > to 0.9.2 and noticed the license situation was rather more complex tha

Re: bugzilla.redhat.com vs upstream bug trackers

2013-06-18 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 06/18/2013 06:24 AM, David Tardon wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 09:49:37PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: From my point of view If you are not involved with upstream ( at least subscribed to their mailing list and have a account in their upstream tracker ) you should not be maintain

Re: option to ignore flash memory device at USB1.1 "full" speed

2013-06-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 08:26 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 06/17/2013 10:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 22:33 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:11:42PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > >>> On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 05:38 +0100, Matthew Garr

Re: icedtea-web installed and enabled by default in Fedora 19

2013-06-18 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 17.06.2013 21:26, Dan Mashal wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz > wrote: >> On 17.06.2013 17:18, Heiko Adams wrote: >> >> From my point of view the java-plugin is a big security hole and should be >> kicked from default installations ASAP. >> >> >> >> Then, why not f