Re: Daily package ownership changes?

2013-05-29 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Michael Scherer wrote: > The way we could do it for Fedora is to see if there is a build on koji > ( using fedmsg ), see if that a library, see the abi has changed ( using > some kind of filter and a database ), and so run some script that > rebuild and bump the s

Re: Review Sugar Activities

2013-05-29 Thread Danishka Navin
I am still willing to contribute but waiting for sponsorship. :) On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 18:00 +0530, Danishka Navin wrote: > > Here is the all the activities I have packaged > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=841239 > > https

Re: Daily package ownership changes?

2013-05-29 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 28 May 2013 16:02:17 -0400 > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> >> 11) automatic period rebuilds in rawhide to highlight FTBFS issues >> >> aren't done as often anymore >> > Can you expand on this? Not sure what you mean? >> >> What Matt Domsch

Re: The official way to upgrade F18 to F19

2013-05-29 Thread Nathanael Noblet
On 05/29/2013 07:12 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: If folks think we shouldn't make 'fedup --network 19' work now to upgrade people to branched/prerelease, please scream. ;) Otherwise it will be the case from now on. Hello, I usually upgrade my main laptop and workstation to Fedora Beta X. This tim

Re: sharutils license correction

2013-05-29 Thread Tom Tromey
Paul> "convert all info pages to proper man pages and obsolete: the info Paul> package." Man pages aren't really a replacement for info. Replacing info with HTML would be more reasonable, but would be a significant step backward in usability for Emacs users and perhaps others. This is solvable,

Re: The official way to upgrade F18 to F19

2013-05-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 18:20 -0700, Ravindra Kumar wrote: > > If folks think we shouldn't make 'fedup --network 19' work now to > > upgrade people to branched/prerelease, please scream. ;) Otherwise it > > will be the case from now on. > > Probably, 'fedup --network 19' should not install alpha/be

Re: The official way to upgrade F18 to F19

2013-05-29 Thread Ravindra Kumar
> If folks think we shouldn't make 'fedup --network 19' work now to > upgrade people to branched/prerelease, please scream. ;) Otherwise it > will be the case from now on. Probably, 'fedup --network 19' should not install alpha/beta releases automatically, instead a switch to specifically select

Re: The official way to upgrade F18 to F19

2013-05-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 29 May 2013 10:05:37 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 18:55 +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: > > Il giorno mer, 29/05/2013 alle 10.37 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto: > > > On Wed, 29 May 2013 11:27:04 -0500 > > > Jeffrey Bastian wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 0

Re: Daily package ownership changes?

2013-05-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 28 May 2013 16:02:17 -0400 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/28/2013 03:17 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > 5) update to new upstream versions in Rawhide - a tool could do bump > > the spec, do scratch builds automatically of newer versions, if > > that works ask the maintainer to apply a diff aft

Re: Daily package ownership changes?

2013-05-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 29 May 2013 08:19:43 +0200 Michael Scherer wrote: > AFAIK, Mageia do not do that. > Mandriva and openSUSE both use a custom build system. > > But on a conceptual level, that's not hard. Yeah, but the details get sticky. ;) > The way we could do it for Fedora is to see if there is a bu

info is dead was: sharutils license correction

2013-05-29 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Paul Wouters wrote: > Why do we even bother shipping an old obsoleted documentation format > only RMS can actually use? In the case of sharutils, we actually have > what appears to be proper man pages. > > Maybe I should add a Feature for F20 : > > "convert all info pages to proper man pages and

Re: Why is chrony conditional on system-config-date?

2013-05-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 16:18 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: > In F19 comps @standard group: > > requires="system-config-date">chrony > > This seems odd to me. I also only see system-config-date being brought in by > the kde-desktop group. commit 20529fa5ab687f042db3d484ee7738e78e844852 Author:

Re: sharutils license correction

2013-05-29 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 28 May 2013, Petr Pisar wrote: I've corrected license declaration at sharutils package: The only effective difference is the texinfo documentation is covered by GFDL instead of GPL. Why do we even bother shipping an old obsoleted documentation format only RMS can actually use? In th

Why is chrony conditional on system-config-date?

2013-05-29 Thread Orion Poplawski
In F19 comps @standard group: chrony This seems odd to me. I also only see system-config-date being brought in by the kde-desktop group. -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA, Boulder/CoRA Office FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane

Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting Minutes 2013-05-29

2013-05-29 Thread Paul Whalen
Thanks to those that were able to join for the status meeting today, for those unable the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-05-29/fedora-meeting-1.2013-05-29-20.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/201

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-29 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2013-05-28 at 14:18 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > * Why the sql schema is so denormalized (IMO, leads to both > > bandwidth and disk overspending without speed benefits)?. For > > example: Why provides and requires tables do not use the common > > domain table? > > B/c it was designed 8y

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-29 Thread James Antill
On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 20:33 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > I did some tests and cold cache performance tests on an old Debian > installation. Performance with cold caches is more than adequate. > Full-text searches take about two seconds. Package installation reaches > the confirmation prompt

[Test-Announce] 2013-05-30 @ 16:00 UTC - F19 Final Blocker Bug Review #1.1

2013-05-29 Thread Tim Flink
# F19 Final Blocker Review meeting #1.1 # Date: 2013-05-30 # Time: 16:00 UTC (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT) # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net We did not finish going through all of the freeze exception bugs before the 3 hour time limit today, so we're continuing the review tomorrow. W

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2013-05-29)

2013-05-29 Thread Tomas Mraz
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-05-29) === Meeting started by t8m at 18:01:09 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-05-29/fesco.2013-05-29-18.01.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: Daily package ownership changes?

2013-05-29 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mardi 28 mai 2013 à 21:10 +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > On Tue, 2013-05-28 at 14:58 -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > 3) reports on source url which don't work - havent been done in a > > llong time afaik and needs to be automated and way to silence them in > > known cases in a per packag

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-29 Thread Florian Weimer
On 05/27/2013 10:24 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: As far as I can tell, the main difference is that apt-get and apt-cache read very few, relatively large files at the beginning, so they don't block on disk reads early. dpkg, on the other hand, uses a database scatter across many small files on disk, so

Re: Who's going to flock?

2013-05-29 Thread Kushal Das
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> > I've submitted the proposal: > > #74 on http://flock-lmacken.rhcloud.com/proposals > > But holding it depends on who is present. If Nick's talk is accepted > it might still make sense to hold an IRC-based hackfest, though, since > we'l

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-05-30 16:00 UTC)

2013-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:13 AM, James Antill wrote: > > = Open Floor = > > For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The > report of the agenda items can be found at: > > https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12 > I would like to add https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/tick

Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting 2013-05-29

2013-05-29 Thread Paul Whalen
Good day all, Please join us today (Wednesday, May 29th) at 4PM EDT (8PM UTC) for the Fedora ARM weekly status meeting in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. On the agenda so far.. 0) Status of ACTION items from our previous meeting 1) Problem packages 2) Kernel Status Update 3) Aarch64 Status Upd

Re: The official way to upgrade F18 to F19

2013-05-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 18:55 +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: > Il giorno mer, 29/05/2013 alle 10.37 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto: > > On Wed, 29 May 2013 11:27:04 -0500 > > Jeffrey Bastian wrote: > > > > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 06:16:11PM +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: > > > > > The installation repo isn'

Re: The official way to upgrade F18 to F19

2013-05-29 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mer, 29/05/2013 alle 10.37 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto: > On Wed, 29 May 2013 11:27:04 -0500 > Jeffrey Bastian wrote: > > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 06:16:11PM +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: > > > > The installation repo isn't available. > > > > You need to specify one with --instrepo. > >

Re: [dnf] dnf-0.3.6-1

2013-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote: > On 05/28/2013 07:30 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> If you store the results, you would only need to get the details of the >> bugs fixed from the last release. >> > > And that is practically doable: > > http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/**

Re: The official way to upgrade F18 to F19

2013-05-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 29 May 2013 11:27:04 -0500 Jeffrey Bastian wrote: > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 06:16:11PM +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: > > > The installation repo isn't available. > > > You need to specify one with --instrepo. > > > > Some suggest? > > > I used this command over this past weekend: > > fedu

Re: The official way to upgrade F18 to F19

2013-05-29 Thread Jeffrey Bastian
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 06:16:11PM +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: > > The installation repo isn't available. > > You need to specify one with --instrepo. > > Some suggest? I used this command over this past weekend: fedup --network 19 --debuglog=/var/log/fedupdebug.log \ --instrepo http://dl.fedo

Re: The official way to upgrade F18 to F19

2013-05-29 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mer, 29/05/2013 alle 08.51 -0400, Stephen Gallagher ha scritto: > On 05/29/2013 08:48 AM, Dario Lesca wrote: > > What is the official way to upgrade F18 to F19 (for now beta)? I > > would do some test.. Thanks > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp#How_Can_I_Upgrade_My_System_with_

Re: The official way to upgrade F18 to F19

2013-05-29 Thread Nikos Roussos
Stephen Gallagher wrote: >On 05/29/2013 08:48 AM, Dario Lesca wrote: >> What is the official way to upgrade F18 to F19 (for now beta)? I >> would do some test.. Thanks >> > >http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp#How_Can_I_Upgrade_My_System_with_FedUp.3F Is there any plan currently for a GUI fron

Re: [dnf] dnf-0.3.6-1

2013-05-29 Thread Ales Kozumplik
On 05/28/2013 07:30 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: If you store the results, you would only need to get the details of the bugs fixed from the last release. And that is practically doable: http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/release_notes.html Thanks, Ales -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-05-30 16:00 UTC)

2013-05-29 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2013-05-30 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2013-05-30 09:00 Thu US/Pacific 2013-05-30 12:00 Thu US/Eastern 2013-05-30 16:00 Thu UTC <- 2013-05-30 17:00

Re: Installed tests

2013-05-29 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2013-05-28 at 20:24 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > 2) As part of automated testing. The most important thing to understand >here is that "Type=session" tests are most effectively run under >an autologged-in VM. But it'd be mostly possible to run the current >GNOME installed te

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-29 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 29 May 2013 11:48:14 +0100 "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:51:21AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > I simply got tired of tilting at that particular windmill when > > confronted with some particularly egregious cases (see libguestfs > > sometime). > > $ rpm -qR libgu

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-29 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 29 May 2013 11:52:04 +0100 "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > > Also do we know how many mirrors support byte ranges? > > We could go all the way and have a relatively large uncompressed > database stored on the mirrors, but have the client only access small > byte ranges from it. > We use

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-05-29)

2013-05-29 Thread Tomas Mraz
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '-MM-DD HH:MM UTC' Links to all tickets bel

[dnf] dnf-0.3.7

2013-05-29 Thread Ales Kozumplik
Hello, A serious issue with a new feature in 0.3.6 [1] made me do another build in a quick succession today, for both rawhide and F19 [2]. Ales [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967732 [2] http://bit.ly/15iobuR [3] http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/release_notes.html#id6 -- devel ma

The official way to upgrade F18 to F19

2013-05-29 Thread Dario Lesca
What is the official way to upgrade F18 to F19 (for now beta)? I would do some test.. Thanks -- Dario Lesca - sip:da...@solinos.it (Inviato dal mio Linux Fedora18+Gnome3) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: The official way to upgrade F18 to F19

2013-05-29 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/29/2013 08:48 AM, Dario Lesca wrote: > What is the official way to upgrade F18 to F19 (for now beta)? I > would do some test.. Thanks > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp#How_Can_I_Upgrade_My_System_with_FedUp.3F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

[Bug 959206] gcc-c++ should be set as Requires

2013-05-29 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=959206 --- Comment #10 from Fedora Update System --- abi-compliance-checker-1.99-1.fc19 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 19. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/abi-compliance-checker-1.99-1.fc19 -- You are receiving this mail because: Y

[Bug 967783] abi-compliance-checker-1.99 is available

2013-05-29 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 967783] abi-compliance-checker-1.99 is available

2013-05-29 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 959206] gcc-c++ should be set as Requires

2013-05-29 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 959206] gcc-c++ should be set as Requires

2013-05-29 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 967783] abi-compliance-checker-1.99 is available

2013-05-29 Thread bugzilla
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F-19 Branched report: 20130529 changes

2013-05-29 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Wed May 29 09:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [airinv] airinv-1.00.0-3.fc19.i686 requires libsoci_mysql.so.3.1 airinv-1.00.0-3.fc19.i686 requires libsoci_core.so.3.1 airinv-1.00.0-3.fc19.x86

rawhide report: 20130529 changes

2013-05-29 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
0.19.1-1 - Update to 0.19.1 Size change: 23511 bytes sat4j-2.3.5-1.fc20 -- * Wed May 29 2013 Krzysztof Daniel 2.3.5-1 - Update to latest upstream. Size change: -46484 bytes scl-utils-20130529-1.fc20 - * Wed May 29 2013 Jan Zeleny - 20130529-1 - changed

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Also do we know how many mirrors support byte ranges? We could go all the way and have a relatively large uncompressed database stored on the mirrors, but have the client only access small byte ranges from it. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjon

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:51:21AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > I simply got tired of tilting at that particular windmill when > confronted with some particularly egregious cases (see libguestfs > sometime). $ rpm -qR libguestfs|grep ^/ /sbin/ldconfig /sbin/ldconfig /lib64/rtkaio/librt.so.1 /usr/lib