On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 00:42 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
> NOTE: The 64-bit Live LXDE is over its size target (700 MiB) and will
> not fit on a standard 700 MiB CD.
>
> As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Release Candidate 3
> (RC3) is now available for testing. Content information,
NOTE: The 64-bit Live LXDE is over its size target (700 MiB) and will
not fit on a standard 700 MiB CD.
As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Release Candidate 3
(RC3) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng
On May 21, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> Are you using a kickstart that installs biosdevname, perhaps?
Nope. I haven't even tried going down that rabbit hole yet.
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On May 21, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Doug Ledford wrote:
> On 05/21/2013 04:25 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> On May 21, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 21.05.2013 22:02, schrieb Chris Murphy:
Maybe someone can explain to me the use case for ONBOOT= where its value
>>>
# F19 Beta Blocker Review meeting #8
# Date: 2013-05-22
# Time: 16:00 UTC (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT)
# Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net
The eighth and hopefully final blocker review meeting for F19 beta will
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We'll
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 23:06 -0400, Chris Murphy wrote:
> The configuration files weren't renamed. The ip addr or ip link reported
> device is what's different. The effect is that when the device is p5p1, yet
> there's a configuration file created by anaconda ifcfg-en5s0, even though
> that fil
On May 21, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:33 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> Is Gnome > Settings > Network leveraging Network Manager? If so, it's using
>> a different naming convention than systemd, and it seems the two are
>> involved in some non-determini
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 22:58 -0400, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > Ok, so the issues are with the GNOME control center network panel, not
> > specifically the NM core daemon?
>
> The issue is with Gnome Settings, and anaconda's behavior which has changed
> from F18 to F19. In F18, it sets ONBOOT=on even
On May 21, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> Automatically may work as designed, but it's a flawed design. It makes no
>> sense to have an admin user enable a network through the Gnome shell toolbar
>> icon (Network icon, flip the
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 19:14 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 17:22 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
>
> > If someone wants to make user creation mandatory I think they should
> > first provide a working method to select external account providers in
> > anaconda. If that can't be done
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 19:14 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 17:22 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
>
> > If someone wants to make user creation mandatory I think they should
> > first provide a working method to select external account providers in
> > anaconda. If that can't be done
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 17:22 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> If someone wants to make user creation mandatory I think they should
> first provide a working method to select external account providers in
> anaconda. If that can't be done they should leave account creation
> optional. Although it being a
Chris Murphy wrote:
> On May 21, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:33 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >> Is Gnome > Settings > Network leveraging Network Manager? If so, it's
> >> using a different naming convention than systemd, and it seems the two
> >> are invol
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net.
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto
or run:
date -d '2013-05-22 18:00 UTC'
Links to all tickets below
On 05/21/2013 04:25 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On May 21, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Am 21.05.2013 22:02, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>>> Maybe someone can explain to me the use case for ONBOOT= where its value
>>> isn't tied
>>> to the current network state. I wasted an inor
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On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 15:15 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> > Anaconda creates ifcfg-en5s0, but sometimes the interface doesn't get
> > an IP address via DHCP on boot. Sometimes it does. I haven't figured
> > out why. But if I delete this
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 17:22 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > Both g-i-s and anaconda/i-s appear to offer at least some mechanism for
> > configuring remote user accounts. I don't know in detail what
> > technologies they support; the g-i-s one looks like it supports at least
> > AD, I don't know what
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 17:22 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > Nothing much, and if you actually read both my mails fully, that is
> > precisely the path I proposed.
>
> Yeah I got that, I was just asking why we consider mandating something
> when the current behavior seem, to work just fine.
Well, I'
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 16:56 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
>
> > > The other 'mandate user creation' option would be simply to do it in
> > > (interactive) anaconda, and tell people who want to do installs without
> > > a user account to use a
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 15:15 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Anaconda creates ifcfg-en5s0, but sometimes the interface doesn't get
> an IP address via DHCP on boot. Sometimes it does. I haven't figured
> out why. But if I delete this ifcfg- file, and have Gnome > Network
> create a new profile, it cre
On May 21, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:33 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On May 21, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> I'm just trying to figure out the simple case for now: single
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:33 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On May 21, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> >> 1. Connect Automatically may work as designed, but it's a flawed
> >> design. It makes no sense to have an admin user
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 16:56 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > The other 'mandate user creation' option would be simply to do it in
> > (interactive) anaconda, and tell people who want to do installs without
> > a user account to use a kickstart or lump it. This has the advantage of
> > being one of the
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 22:07 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 21.05.2013 22:02, schrieb Chris Murphy:
> > Maybe someone can explain to me the use case for ONBOOT= where its value
> > isn't tied
> > to the current network state. I wasted an inordinate, unreasonable amount
> > of time
> > tryi
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On May 21, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> But this bug has brought me to a plethora of buggy behavior in the Gnome
> >>> Settings Network panel, so maybe the misery was worth it.
> >>
> >> *THIS*. *This* kind of
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 12:30 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 15:03 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> > > gnome-initial-setup would still be a different case, as GNOME apparently
> > > really wants to force the creation of a non-root account. So g-i-s will
> >
> > That seems fi
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:33 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On May 21, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> >> 1. Connect Automatically may work as designed, but it's a flawed
> >> design. It makes no sense to have an admin user
Am 21.05.2013 22:25, schrieb Chris Murphy:
> On May 21, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> Am 21.05.2013 22:02, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>>> Maybe someone can explain to me the use case for ONBOOT= where its value
>>> isn't tied
>>> to the current network state. I wasted an inordinate, un
Am 21.05.2013 22:02, schrieb Chris Murphy:
> Maybe someone can explain to me the use case for ONBOOT= where its value
> isn't tied
> to the current network state. I wasted an inordinate, unreasonable amount of
> time
> trying to figure this out before I realized what was going on
why should
On May 21, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 21.05.2013 22:25, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>> On May 21, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> Am 21.05.2013 22:02, schrieb Chris Murphy:
Maybe someone can explain to me the use case for ONBOOT= where its value
isn't tied
On May 21, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>> 1. Connect Automatically may work as designed, but it's a flawed
>> design. It makes no sense to have an admin user enable a network
>> through the Gnome shell toolbar icon (Network
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 15:03 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > gnome-initial-setup would still be a different case, as GNOME apparently
> > really wants to force the creation of a non-root account. So g-i-s will
>
> That seems fine to me; systems where you don't want a user account shouldn't
> be d
On May 21, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 21.05.2013 22:02, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>> Maybe someone can explain to me the use case for ONBOOT= where its value
>> isn't tied
>> to the current network state. I wasted an inordinate, unreasonable amount
>> of time
>> trying to
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> 1. Connect Automatically may work as designed, but it's a flawed
> design. It makes no sense to have an admin user enable a network
> through the Gnome shell toolbar icon (Network icon, flip the switch
> from Off to On), reboot, and then hav
On May 21, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> But this bug has brought me to a plethora of buggy behavior in the Gnome
>>> Settings Network panel, so maybe the misery was worth it.
>>
>> *THIS*. *This* kind of thing is why NetworkManager remains unusable
>> for production netwo
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 15:03 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:50:37AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Since F19 has user creation in anaconda, we can actually cover all those
> > scenarios in anaconda quite easily. Literally all we have to do is make
> > it pop up a warnin
On Sun, 2013-05-19 at 09:59 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > On May 16, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 15:44 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >>> On May 16, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >>
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:50:37AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Since F19 has user creation in anaconda, we can actually cover all those
> scenarios in anaconda quite easily. Literally all we have to do is make
> it pop up a warning if you try to quit the installer without creating a
> user acco
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 14:25 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> So I'm writing a blog post on this topic ATM, and that really kinda
> brought home how messy this design is at present.
So! I've been poking through the logic of this for the last few days,
still, and with some further testing of exactly
Hello,
On 21 May 2013 17:43, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 05/21/2013 02:08 PM, Simone Caronni wrote:
>
>> If there's a way to check if Secure Boot is enabled that would be great.
>>
>
> Why do you want to do that? That's almost always wrong, just like
> checking for the AD bit in DNS responses.
Ravindra Kumar (ravindraku...@vmware.com) said:
> Thanks Bill. No issues with the checkin.
>
> I looked at the checked in files and I have following questions:
>
> 1. "false" and "false"
>elements will make these packages not to be installed by default
>and invisible to users. Then, how
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 04:42:10PM +0200, Vitezslav Crhonek wrote:
> - there are symlinks from the old keymap names to the matching entries
> of the X11 keymaps (pairs taken from 'kbd-model-map' file in localed
> sources)
The symlinks seem to be broken, because bot the deadkeys and the
nondeadkey
On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 09:41 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 05:07 -0400, Martin Sivak wrote:
>
> > It was actually intended to behave this way from the beginning. All
> > the screens are shared with Anaconda (and all we have right now live
> > as part of Anaconda source code)
On Sun, 2013-05-19 at 09:59 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > On May 16, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 15:44 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >>> On May 16, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >>
On 05/21/2013 08:00 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
Never mind, I guess that's what "-spec=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1"
First time I've seen something like that in the flags...
Richard
In my case it was because the corresponding linker flag was not getting used
by the build.
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On 05/21/2013 02:08 PM, Simone Caronni wrote:
If there's a way to check if Secure Boot is enabled that would be great.
Why do you want to do that? That's almost always wrong, just like
checking for the AD bit in DNS responses.
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On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 05:23 -0400, Martin Sivak wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just to clarify things.
>
> Anaconda currently requires root password OR user with administrator
> privileges (wheel group). So if you set root password in Anaconda,
> initial-setup will start, but can be dismissed immediately.
I m
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 16:42 +0200, Vitezslav Crhonek wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have built kbd-1.15.5-6.fc20 recently. It uses converted xkb layouts
> instead of original console keymaps by default.
>
> Basic info:
>
> - the list of xkb layouts and variants is taken from
> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/ba
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote:
>
> 2013/5/21 Przemek Klosowski
>>
>> On 05/21/2013 08:50 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote:
>>>
>>> I know that is somehat OT, but I was looking for trying to discover what
>>> does mean the size column of lsmod. Some people says is memory used by
>>>
On Mon, 20.05.13 22:33, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
> > You still have to configure all of that and whether a MTA is installed
> > automatically or not doesn't really make it work out of the box.
>
> you have *ntohing* to configure
> you only need to edit *one line* in /etc/alia
2013/5/21 Przemek Klosowski
> On 05/21/2013 08:50 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote:
>
>> I know that is somehat OT, but I was looking for trying to discover what
>> does mean the size column of lsmod. Some people says is memory used by
>> the module, but if I run strace lsmod I found that it takes a look
On Mon, 20.05.13 21:36, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
> > by default all mail messages go to root which you need root
> > permissions to access them so it's not really an argument
>
> and on most setups i know /etc/aliases contains
> "root: whoe...@domain.tld" and the *main* diffe
On 05/21/2013 08:50 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote:
I know that is somehat OT, but I was looking for trying to discover what
does mean the size column of lsmod. Some people says is memory used by
the module, but if I run strace lsmod I found that it takes a look to
coresize files at /sys and read
/usr/s
Hello,
I have built kbd-1.15.5-6.fc20 recently. It uses converted xkb layouts
instead of original console keymaps by default.
Basic info:
- the list of xkb layouts and variants is taken from
/usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.xml
(processed by slightly modified perl script taken from
xkeyboard-config
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Tue, 21.05.13 14:08, Simone Caronni (negativ...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> thanks for the tip.
>>
>> On 16 May 2013 20:41, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>
>> > It's really neat stuff, and very easy to use: you just add a
>> > Con
On Tue, 21.05.13 14:08, Simone Caronni (negativ...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> thanks for the tip.
>
> On 16 May 2013 20:41, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > It's really neat stuff, and very easy to use: you just add a
> > Condition(Something) statement to the .service file. For details on
> >
Never mind, I guess that's what
"-spec=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1"
First time I've seen something like that in the flags...
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I got two bug reports sent to me because -fPIE was not used and the
packages contain suid binaries.
I'm working on fixing it and I added %global _hardened_build 1 to my spec
files but the output of %{optflags} does not seem to be modified as the
packaging guidelines[1] suggest they should.
What a
2013-05-20 09:03, Petr Hracek skrev:
> Just a one short question.
>
> You are talking about side tag.
> Could you please describe me what are you talking about?
> It seems like I am a newbie.
Koji organizes builds by labelling them with tags. There's a a tag for
f19, a tag for f19-updates, a tag
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On 05/20/2013 03:29 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 12:33 +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote:
>> On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 22:29 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> This is a weird bug I've seen 3 or 4 times since upgrading to F19, and
>>> am having
Compose started at Tue May 21 09:15:02 UTC 2013
Broken deps for x86_64
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[byzanz]
byzanz-0.3-0.5.fc17.x86_64 requires libpanel-applet-4.so.0()(64bit)
[deltacloud-core]
deltacloud-core-rhevm-1.1.3-1.fc19.noarch requires rubyge
Hi,
I know that is somehat OT, but I was looking for trying to discover what
does mean the size column of lsmod. Some people says is memory used by the
module, but if I run strace lsmod I found that it takes a look to coresize
files at /sys and read
/usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-3.9.2/Documentation/AB
On Monday 25 February 2013 17:33:09 Andreas Schneider wrote:
> On Monday 25 February 2013 10:09:50 Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Andreas Schneider wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > the Samba Team has announced [1] that it will remove SWAT from the Samba
> > > Suite.
Compose started at Tue May 21 08:15:02 UTC 2013
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airinv-1.00.0-3.fc19.i686 requires libsoci_mysql.so.3.1
airinv-1.00.0-3.fc19.i686 requires libsoci_core.so.3.1
airinv-1.00.0-3.fc19.x86
Hello,
thanks for the tip.
On 16 May 2013 20:41, Adam Williamson wrote:
> It's really neat stuff, and very easy to use: you just add a
> Condition(Something) statement to the .service file. For details on
> using these conditions, see 'man systemd.unit' and just search for
> Condition, and you'
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:10:33AM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le Mar 21 mai 2013 00:12, Kevin Fenzi a écrit :
> > Lots of things use /etc/aliases...
> In fact, /etc/aliases should be set up by anaconda or firstboot with the
> main user mail.
We did this in BU Linux. Specificially, we made an
Hi,
Just to clarify things.
Anaconda currently requires root password OR user with administrator privileges
(wheel group). So if you set root password in Anaconda, initial-setup will
start, but can be dismissed immediately.
It might be good idea to add some explanation text to initial-setup to
On 21/05/13 09:29, Björn Esser wrote:
Allright, then! Thanks for your answers!
I'll have a _strong_ look in
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:SysVInitScript
Well you shouldn't need to worry about that one for a new package,
unless you're wanting to support EPEL.
* https://fed
Allright, then! Thanks for your answers!
I'll have a _strong_ look in
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:SysVInitScript
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Systemd
for improving my mind/knowlegde...
Any other places I should have look in, too?
Cheers,
Björn
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 20:20:56 -0400
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
The only MTA I've seen handlie both SMARTHOST and /etc/aliases
> correctly was "exim",. which is no longer included by default and
> for which the necessary configuration is not widely published nor
> in the default documentation.
>
ht
Le Mar 21 mai 2013 00:12, Kevin Fenzi a écrit :
> Lots of things use /etc/aliases...
In fact, /etc/aliases should be set up by anaconda or firstboot with the
main user mail.
We've been hearing for years from desktop people a MTA was "bad", "heavy"
and "difficult to use" but after years of rants
Le Lun 20 mai 2013 22:46, Reindl Harald a écrit :
> it would not be hard to do a lot of things manually if they are
> needed but the *make it idiot proof attitude* which makes
> me crazy in so many cases is more important for Fedora and
> when it comes to well known unix principles it does not ma
On 21/05/13 08:51, Björn Esser wrote:
In maintainer's `generic-all-purpose-and-all-rpm-dists` spec-file there
is this scriptlet inside %install for creating/providing the needed
socket:
/scriptlet/
mkdir -p %{buildroot}%{_localstatedir}/spool/authdaemon/
./authmksock %{buildroot}%{_l
Le Mar 21 mai 2013 09:51, Björn Esser a écrit :
> My question about this is:
> Can I take this one-by-one in my fedora-rpm or is it better to provide
> the same functionality during %post and %preun?
IMHO, you'll need to take a hard look at systedifying all this first
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Hello!
I'm currently work on packaging `courier-authlib` (needed for pkg'ing
and running courier MTA).
In maintainer's `generic-all-purpose-and-all-rpm-dists` spec-file there
is this scriptlet inside %install for creating/providing the needed
socket:
/scriptlet/
mkdir -p %{buildroot}%{_loca
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