# F19 Beta Blocker Review meeting #3
# Date: 2013-05-06
# Time: 16:00 UTC (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT) (after QA meeting)
# Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net
The third blocker review meeting for F19 Beta will follow right after
the QA meeting. We have quite a few proposed blockers to
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2013-05-06
# Time: 15:00 UTC
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto)
# Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net
Greetings testers!
It's meeting time again today/tomorrow! We'll check in on the status of
Beta, and jreznik also wanted
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 00:02 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> > Look, please, by all means, calmly discuss the merits of the decision.
> > Just don't bring into question the motivations of its introduction
> > unless you have a damn strong factual basis for doing so.
> I believe I do have a damn stro
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2013-05-05 at 14:07 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > In the latest Fedora 19 Beta TC2 install after I got through
> > the
> > initial s
Once upon a time, Lars Seipel said:
> - the checksums for netinstall images are signed with a Fedora key
> - the corresponding public key is made available through https
> - therefore the integrity of installer images can be verified
That's only verifiable after the fact (when you want to use the
On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 01:03:11AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> However, unless your installer image is signed, checking RPM signatures
> in anaconda is pointless (which is why the feature you mentioned is
> based on Secure Boot). If someone was going to the trouble of changing
> the RPM signatures
On 05/05/2013 12:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-05-05 at 02:45 -0500, Alex G. wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have 4 packages I'd like to get in before the Release of F19. For each of
>> these
>> slots, I'm offering to review a package of your choosing.
>>
>> But wait, there's more! Choose you
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:06 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth
> wrote:
>> More to the point, the vast majority of the other software *in Fedora*
>> that accepts passwords for any reason hides the passwords as they are
>> typed. If this is really br
Le dimanche 05 mai 2013 à 11:18 -0600, Chris Murphy a écrit :
>
> On May 5, 2013, at 1:40 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> > So if you disagree please provide *reasonable*
> > arguments.
>
> Those who disagree have already done this ad nauseum.
>
> The summary:
>
> The Neilsen-Norman article ci
On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 11:26:17AM +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote:
> [libguestfs]
> 1:libguestfs-1.21.36-1.fc20.i686 requires libbtrfs.so.0
> 1:libguestfs-1.21.36-1.fc20.x86_64 requires libbtrfs.so.0()(64bit)
I've started a rebuild of libguestfs which should fix this.
Is there any
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
[snip]
> Look, please, by all means, calmly discuss the merits of the decision.
> Just don't bring into question the motivations of its introduction
> unless you have a damn strong factual basis for doing so.
I maintain an open source proj
On Sun, 2013-05-05 at 14:07 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In the latest Fedora 19 Beta TC2 install after I got through
> the
> initial steps of the install I started to setup my root
> passw
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In the latest Fedora 19 Beta TC2 install after I got through the
> initial steps of the install I started to setup my root password.
>
> To my surprise my password was shown in plain text instead of bullets.
>
The obvious workaround is t
On Sun, 2013-05-05 at 02:45 -0500, Alex G. wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have 4 packages I'd like to get in before the Release of F19. For each of
> these
> slots, I'm offering to review a package of your choosing.
>
> But wait, there's more! Choose your slot within 72 hours, and I will add,
> free of
> c
On May 5, 2013, at 1:40 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> So if you disagree please provide *reasonable*
> arguments.
Those who disagree have already done this ad nauseum. The summary:
The Neilsen-Norman article cited is an editorial piece. It is out of scope, out
of context, not a study, and no
On Sun, 2013-05-05 at 15:50 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> On 05/04/2013 06:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/05/04/1248242/fedora-19-to-stop-masking-passwords
> >
> > Well, that escalated quickly.
>
> And in one of the replies:
>
> http://it.slashdot.org/comments
On Sun, 2013-05-05 at 14:43 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> >> Excuse my cynicism here but this would also require some change to the
> >> QA process itself and what are blockers and what are not and the "nice
> >> to have" process which should be renamed "we won't hold our breath".
> >
> > I don't really
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:59 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
> On 05/03/2013 01:54 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>>
>> While you can do all this with the netinstall ISO + a hosted
>> install tree, this is not as convenient, because hosting or
>> mirroring a single DVD image is much easier than m
Am 05.05.2013 11:44, schrieb Nicolas Mailhot:
> And XP is out-of-support Microsoft-side. So any company use (that is what
> is being talked about here) is likely to stop soonish
fix your calendar
there where i live we have 2013 and not 2014
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On Sun, 5 May 2013 14:45:17 +0100
Frank Murphy wrote:
Apology for self reply
> but repomanage seems to act on a named dir,
> as distinct from working on yum cachedir.
>
> Am uncertain as to use in culling all repos within keepcache=1
>
It may work as "repomanage -n /var/cache/yum
I had been t
On 05/04/2013 06:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/05/04/1248242/fedora-19-to-stop-masking-passwords
>
> Well, that escalated quickly.
And in one of the replies:
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3716785&cid=43628711
"I like the way Windows 8 addressed this
On Sun, 05 May 2013 06:35:37 -0700
John Reiser wrote:
> > Asking was yum tidy-cache ever in Fedora?
> > http://freecode.com/projects/tidy-yum-cache-plugin
>
> How does that compare to "repomanage -o" from the yum-utils package?
> That's not a plugin, but it does say which are the obsoleted
> pac
> Asking was yum tidy-cache ever in Fedora?
> http://freecode.com/projects/tidy-yum-cache-plugin
How does that compare to "repomanage -o" from the yum-utils package?
That's not a plugin, but it does say which are the obsoleted
package versions.
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Compose started at Sun May 5 09:15:02 UTC 2013
Broken deps for x86_64
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[byzanz]
byzanz-0.3-0.5.fc17.x86_64 requires libpanel-applet-4.so.0()(64bit)
[deltacloud-core]
deltacloud-core-1.0.5-2.fc19.noarch requires ruby(abi) =
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-05-04 at 15:58 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
>
>> > If they do decide to keep the change, you could escalate it to FESCo.
>> > However, (speaking only for myself here) I would be VERY reluctant to
>> > override maintainers on their p
On 05/05/13 08:40 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
On Sat, 2013-05-04 at 15:22 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
Hidden by default and showing it on demand is likely to still be a
hindrance to people who may not know they type their password wrong
( because I think most assume that it will work fine, we a
Asking was yum tidy-cache ever in Fedora?
http://freecode.com/projects/tidy-yum-cache-plugin
No upstream activity since 2009:
Couldn't find any mention of it being so using
term "yum-tidy-cache"
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On Sun, 5 May 2013 09:38:10 +0100
Frank Murphy wrote:
Never mind
man nfs: sharecache / nosharecache
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Compose started at Sun May 5 08:15:03 UTC 2013
Broken deps for x86_64
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[byzanz]
byzanz-0.3-0.5.fc17.x86_64 requires libpanel-applet-4.so.0()(64bit)
[cinnamon]
cinnamon-menu-editor-1.6.7-7.fc19.noarch requires gnome-panel
[d
On 05/05/2013 01:19 PM, Eugene Pivnev wrote:
05.05.2013 13:25, Markus Mayer:
Hi,
I am seeking for a reviewer for jimtcl - A small embeddable Tcl
interpreter:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=959747
If anyone is willing to review this, I am happy to review a package of
him/her instea
05.05.2013 13:25, Markus Mayer:
Hi,
I am seeking for a reviewer for jimtcl - A small embeddable Tcl
interpreter:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=959747
If anyone is willing to review this, I am happy to review a package of
him/her instead.
Let's swap with https://bugzilla.redhat
On 05/05/2013 11:40 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le Dim 5 mai 2013 10:19, Alec Leamas a écrit :
This seems to mean that we force web applications to exclude IE version
8 (and older) clients. As this seems to be a widely used IE version
today, is this really the way to go?
It seems to be a case
Le Dim 5 mai 2013 12:01, Felix Miata a écrit :
> On 2013-05-05 11:44 (GMT+0200) Nicolas Mailhot composed:
>
>> XP is out-of-support Microsoft-side.
>
> For what definition of "out-of-support"?
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/endofsupport.aspx
>
> Considering Fedora release lifetimes, Wi
Le Dim 5 mai 2013 00:22, Dan Mashal a écrit :
> I think people that have Macs have learned how to use their slightly
> different keybaords by now.
OTOH there are slight variations between the windows, mac and linux
layouts for the same locale (due to the fact that getting fixes in xkb is
way eas
On 2013-05-05 11:44 (GMT+0200) Nicolas Mailhot composed:
XP is out-of-support Microsoft-side.
For what definition of "out-of-support"?
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/endofsupport.aspx
Considering Fedora release lifetimes, WinXP seems to have abundant life left.
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Le Sam 4 mai 2013 21:52, Adam Williamson a écrit :
> I think it's generally
> accepted that this is a case of a usability versus security trade-off,
> and the questions are a) exactly how much security does masking provide
> and b) once we have agreed on the terms (exactly how much more usable
>
Le Dim 5 mai 2013 11:27, Felix Miata a écrit :
> On 2013-05-05 10:19 (GMT+0200) Alec Leamas composed:
>
>> Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>
>>> Here is the current status of @font-face ttf/otf support in browsers:
>>> http://caniuse.com/ttf ...
>
>> This seems to mean that we force web applications to exc
Le Dim 5 mai 2013 06:40, T.C. Hollingsworth a écrit :
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Nicolas Mailhot
> wrote:
>> I think spot will agree there is no way we'll ever ship a font
>> consisting
>> of company logos, it's trademark hell
>
> We ship *lots* of trademarked logos. In Firefox alone the
Le Dim 5 mai 2013 10:19, Alec Leamas a écrit :
> This seems to mean that we force web applications to exclude IE version
> 8 (and older) clients. As this seems to be a widely used IE version
> today, is this really the way to go?
It seems to be a case of Fedora being first and Microsoft being l
On 2013-05-05 10:19 (GMT+0200) Alec Leamas composed:
Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Here is the current status of @font-face ttf/otf support in browsers:
http://caniuse.com/ttf ...
This seems to mean that we force web applications to exclude IE version
8 (and older) clients. As this seems to be a
Hi,
I am seeking for a reviewer for jimtcl - A small embeddable Tcl
interpreter:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=959747
If anyone is willing to review this, I am happy to review a package of
him/her instead.
Regards
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On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-05-04 at 13:20 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>> That's it. So far as I can see, that's the sole reference to any actual
>> identifiable study. And again, so far as I can see, the entire 2009
>> debate spiraled out from that s
Got an idea am working on.
Need to know if anything Fedora*ish
is using the word "sharecache" in any form.
I just don't know how to check everything.
Except ask here..
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On 05/03/2013 09:50 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le Ven 3 mai 2013 21:06, Alec Leamas a écrit :
Still hesitating a here: if upstream has decided to support the widest
possible set of browsers (including IE): should we really just drop the
formats required by IE? From a user perspective, I don't
Hi,
I have 4 packages I'd like to get in before the Release of F19. For each of
these
slots, I'm offering to review a package of your choosing.
But wait, there's more! Choose your slot within 72 hours, and I will add, free
of
charge, a smiley face to the review of your package.
Supplies are li
On Sat, 2013-05-04 at 15:22 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
>
> > Hidden by default and showing it on demand is likely to still be a
> > hindrance to people who may not know they type their password wrong
> > ( because I think most assume that it will work fine, we are not to
> a
> > point where people a
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