Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 February 2013 07:15, Casey Dahlin wrote: > On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 11:34:34AM +, Ian Malone wrote: >> Gnome 2 slowly returned to the old behaviour in many ways. Gnome 3 is >> starting to do this. >> > > As someone who, I presume, does not like Gnome 3, and as someone who, I will > wildly

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-10 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 11:34:34AM +, Ian Malone wrote: > Gnome 2 slowly returned to the old behaviour in many ways. Gnome 3 is > starting to do this. > As someone who, I presume, does not like Gnome 3, and as someone who, I will wildly guess, shares the notion that GNOME devs are doing whate

Re: Tor maintainership

2013-02-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Paul Wouters wrote: > On Sun, 10 Feb 2013, Enrico Scholz wrote: > >> I will revert most of your changes. please avoid to apply your personal >> style > > Please remove tor-systemd and other "personal styles" that are against > fedora guidelines > > with blocking security updates for yo

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-10 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > Gnome 3 is designed for a touch interface. The majority of touch > interfaces are mobile phones. Touch interfaces on computers are a > minority. Gnome 3 is a poor mobile phone interface, but that doesn't > mean it's a good laptop or desktop one

[Test-Announce] 2013-02-11 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2013-02-10 Thread Adam Williamson
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2013-02-11 # Time: 16:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! It's meeting time again tomorrow. I'll be out for the day, so if someone else could run the meeting

Re: Tor maintainership

2013-02-10 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013, Enrico Scholz wrote: I will revert most of your changes. please avoid to apply your personal style Please remove tor-systemd and other "personal styles" that are against fedora guidelines with blocking security updates for your personal pleasure, you are endanger

Re: Tor maintainership

2013-02-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > While I understand this, I'd like to note that IMHO Fedora package > specs should not really have any 'personal style'. If they do, it means > they are harder for people to co-maintainer or provenpackages to step > in and fix things in case they need to. This is a real problem

Re: devendorize desktop files

2013-02-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > What's devend? Oh, you mean de-vendorize. Aren't hyphens great? ;) > Sure. An offlist mail is sufficient to note that. Help on the other hand... Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject

Re: devendorize desktop files

2013-02-10 Thread Jonathan Underwood
What's devend? Oh, you mean de-vendorize. Aren't hyphens great? ;) On Feb 10, 2013 10:08 PM, "Rahul Sundaram" wrote: > Hi > > I along with Jon Ciesla and Parag Nemade are working through this list > slowly but there are over 600 packages. So we could use more hands > > https://fedoraproject.org/

devendorize desktop files

2013-02-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi I along with Jon Ciesla and Parag Nemade are working through this list slowly but there are over 600 packages. So we could use more hands https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Toshio/Devendorize_desktop_files If any provenpackager wants to pitch in, that would be great Thanks! Rahul -- dev

Re: formulas-devel list established

2013-02-10 Thread devzero2000
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:23:50 +0100 > yersinia wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > Greetings. > > > > > > I've setup a fedorahosted project: > > > https://fedorahosted.org/formulas/wiki/WikiStart > > >

Re: formulas-devel list established

2013-02-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:23:50 +0100 yersinia wrote: > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > Greetings. > > > > I've setup a fedorahosted project: > > https://fedorahosted.org/formulas/wiki/WikiStart > > and mailing list: > > http://lists.fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/form

Re: formulas-devel list established

2013-02-10 Thread yersinia
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Greetings. > > I've setup a fedorahosted project: > https://fedorahosted.org/formulas/wiki/WikiStart > and mailing list: > http://lists.fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/formulas-devel > to discuss development of the formulas idea mentioned at

formulas-devel list established

2013-02-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings. I've setup a fedorahosted project: https://fedorahosted.org/formulas/wiki/WikiStart and mailing list: http://lists.fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/formulas-devel to discuss development of the formulas idea mentioned at: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-January/1

Re: Tor maintainership

2013-02-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:12:44 +0100 Enrico Scholz wrote: > Jamie Nguyen writes: > > > Thanks very much for adding me as a co-maintainer. I guess that you > > probably don't have much time for updating the Tor package, so I'm > > glad to be on board and will be taking a very active role in > > ma

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 February 2013 12:25, drago01 wrote: > On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> * Gnome 3 is going the I-know-better-then-you-what's-good-for-you way. >>> >>> Sure by giving you an extension system that allows you to do whatever >>> you want with the desktop >>

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 February 2013 12:52, Michael Scherer wrote: > Le samedi 09 février 2013 à 11:34 +, Ian Malone a écrit : >> On 9 February 2013 00:37, drago01 wrote: >> > On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Martin Sourada >> > wrote: >> >> >> * Gnome 3's target audience does not enclose majority of Gnome 2

Re: Tor maintainership

2013-02-10 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Dom, 2013-02-10 at 14:12 +0100, Enrico Scholz wrote: > Jamie Nguyen writes: > > > Thanks very much for adding me as a co-maintainer. I guess that you > > probably don't have much time for updating the Tor package, so I'm glad > > to be on board and will be taking a very active role in maintai

Re: Gnome-shell workspaces

2013-02-10 Thread Trond Hasle Amundsen
Olav Vitters writes: >>> Somewhat funny that many users even don't know this tweak tool and ask >>> everywhere about this.. >> >> I always found it odd that gnome-tweak-tool even exists.. some >> functionality are found in the system settings, some in >> gnome-tweak-tool. If you ask me, gnom

Re: Gnome-shell workspaces

2013-02-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Olav Vitters wrote: > This has been addressed various times. In brief: Advanced buttons do not > work. They'll be clicked every time. Tweak tool provides a different > guarantee of stability. For instance: if you change an option in System > Settings and it results in a bug it must be fixed asap. A

Re: Gnome-shell workspaces

2013-02-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 01:28:54PM +0100, Trond Hasle Amundsen wrote: > Christopher Meng writes: > > > Somewhat funny that many users even don't know this tweak tool and ask > > everywhere about this.. > > I always found it odd that gnome-tweak-tool even exists.. some > functionality are fou

Re: Tor maintainership

2013-02-10 Thread Enrico Scholz
Jamie Nguyen writes: > Thanks very much for adding me as a co-maintainer. I guess that you > probably don't have much time for updating the Tor package, so I'm glad > to be on board and will be taking a very active role in maintaining the > package so that you can spend time on other things. I ha

Re: Gnome-shell workspaces

2013-02-10 Thread Trond Hasle Amundsen
Christopher Meng writes: > Somewhat funny that many users even don't know this tweak tool and ask > everywhere about this.. I always found it odd that gnome-tweak-tool even exists.. some functionality are found in the system settings, some in gnome-tweak-tool. If you ask me, gnome-tweak-tool

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-02-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Remi Collet wrote: > Le 09/02/2013 19:08, Alfredo Kojima a écrit : >> Whenever we need to use a 3rd party lib that no distribution ships, >> we're stuck thinking whether it's better to ship it ourselves or just >> leave out everything, forcing users and packagers to fetch them >> externally. Can y

Re: Gnome-shell workspaces (Was Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop)

2013-02-10 Thread Christopher Meng
On Sunday, February 10, 2013, Samuel Sieb wrote: > As an aside, when I first saw gnome-shell, I thought it would be horrible to use. But after a while of using it, finding gnome-tweak-tool, and installing a couple of extensions, I've been quite happy with it. I actually think it's more keyboard