Re: change of names of configuration files

2012-10-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: > anaconda has been writing to vconsole.conf for some time now - at least > Oct 4th: > > commit 4b98eab34f310c2704ec24b417bdf919c413fa1d > Author: Vratislav Podzimek > Date: Thu Oct 4 12:37:24 2012 +0200 > > Work with VConsole keymap and X layou

highly anecdotal comments on LVM in Fedora

2012-10-25 Thread Matthew Miller
I used to be annoyed by the long device names generated by LVM and didn't see myself as needing the complexity on a desktop. Over the years, I've found it to be more and more useful to be able to revisit partitioning choices without a whole song-and-dance. So, when I was installing F18 TC3 on my n

Re: change of names of configuration files

2012-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-10-25 at 18:53 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 03:39:27PM +0200, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: > > +# Migrate /etc/sysconfig/keyboard > > +if [ -e /etc/sysconfig/keyboard -a ! -e /etc/vconsole.conf ]; then > > Come to think of it, I suspect this one might explain

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-10-25 at 09:55 +0200, Jan Synacek wrote: > Anyway, I think that neither of those solutions is far superior in any way. > Maybe I could drop all the renaming in the compat package and make it conflict > with guile-devel, but that there seems to be no agreement on whether it is or > is

Re: Plans for anaconda LVM/RAID support

2012-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-10-25 at 12:04 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > Then anaconda balks at taking over a disk configuration that I create > using other tools. Namely, anaconda won't format an unformatted > existing partition, So, I must use another pass to discover Fedora's > "default" arguments to mkfs bef

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Update to Binary Firmware Exceptions

2012-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-10-25 at 17:10 -0400, Tom Callaway wrote: > On 10/24/2012 06:30 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I don't want to sound too alarmist, but these laser-focused changes > > aimed at the Pi seem slightly worrying to me in the context of: > > > > http://airlied.livejournal.com/76383.html >

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Update to Binary Firmware Exceptions

2012-10-25 Thread Tom Callaway
On 10/24/2012 06:30 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > I don't want to sound too alarmist, but these laser-focused changes > aimed at the Pi seem slightly worrying to me in the context of: > > http://airlied.livejournal.com/76383.html > > If the firmware is as useless and anti-F/OSS as Dave suggests,

Re: Updated NSS on Rawhide to nss-3.14

2012-10-25 Thread Nalin Dahyabhai
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:49:59PM -0400, Elio Maldonado wrote: > The release notes are at > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/NSS/NSS_3.14_release_notes Those release notes say that the license is now MPL 2.0. If I'm reading https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing right, the License: ta

Re: Plans for anaconda LVM/RAID support

2012-10-25 Thread Gerry Reno
On 10/25/2012 03:04 PM, John Reiser wrote: > On 10/25/2012 09:55 AM, Ken Dreyer wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Matthew Miller >[snip] >>> It is often useful in enterprise settings to do non-kickstart installs while >>> prototyping. *And*, people running Fedora in those settings pro

Re: Plans for anaconda LVM/RAID support

2012-10-25 Thread John Reiser
On 10/25/2012 09:55 AM, Ken Dreyer wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Matthew Miller [snip] >> It is often useful in enterprise settings to do non-kickstart installs while >> prototyping. *And*, people running Fedora in those settings probably *are* >> prototyping. So, this seems like an

Re: change of names of configuration files

2012-10-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 03:39:27PM +0200, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: > +# Migrate /etc/sysconfig/keyboard > +if [ -e /etc/sysconfig/keyboard -a ! -e /etc/vconsole.conf ]; then Come to think of it, I suspect this one might explain why both Fedora 18 & Fedora 19 recently have started to forget the loc

Re: Nonresponsive maintainer: bogado

2012-10-25 Thread Julian Sikorski
W dniu 18.10.2012 19:41, Julian Sikorski pisze: > Hi list, > > I have been unsuccessful in trying to contact Victor Bogado: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=770887 > Old raw-thumbnailer is not only non-functional, but also blocks > goffice/gnumeric/gnome-chemistry-utils progress. > >

Fedora 18 now in Beta freeze

2012-10-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings. Fedora 18 is now in freeze and the Beta change deadline is upon us. Updates will land in updates-testing after being pushed. Updates that fix accepted blocker and accepted NTH bugs for the Beta release will be pushed into the base repo when stable. We are in the Pre Beta section o

Re: Plans for anaconda LVM/RAID support

2012-10-25 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:47:21AM -0500, David Lehman wrote: >> > It means F18 GUI installation will be completely unusable for people >> > requiring enterprise features but unable to write own kickstart >> > themselves. >> Such people nee

Re: Plans for anaconda LVM/RAID support

2012-10-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:47:21AM -0500, David Lehman wrote: > > It means F18 GUI installation will be completely unusable for people > > requiring enterprise features but unable to write own kickstart > > themselves. > Such people need to either hire a sysadmin or fire their current one. If > you

Updated NSS on Rawhide to nss-3.14

2012-10-25 Thread Elio Maldonado
The release notes are at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/NSS/NSS_3.14_release_notes Elio -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Plans for anaconda LVM/RAID support

2012-10-25 Thread David Lehman
On Sun, 2012-10-07 at 12:10 +0200, Milan Broz wrote: > On 10/07/2012 02:36 AM, Ian Pilcher wrote: > > I'm sure that this information is somewhere on the Fedora Wiki, but my > > search-fu apparently isn't up to the task of finding it. > > > > What are the plans for LVM and/or software RAID support?

Anaconda is giving birth to Blivet

2012-10-25 Thread David Lehman
The anaconda package is going to be rearranged somewhat for F19. The package is going to be split into three pieces. The main anaconda package will contain only the pyanaconda python module, while the install-time bits and their dependencies will be split out into a sub-package. This will enable ot

orphaning mod_pubcookie

2012-10-25 Thread Gabriel L. Somlo
Pubcookie currently fails to build against apache 2.4, which will be the default in F18. Upstream has been silent for a while. Also, my employer is deprecating pubcookie (in favor of shibboleth, the new hotness). Given all that, I'm orphaning mod_pubcookie -- free to a good home :) Thanks, --Gabr

Re: What are reasonable blockers for making journald the default logger in F19?

2012-10-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 09:13:03AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Sorry I'm a little late to this, but I think these last points are worth > stressing: We really shouldn't just switch the logging backend and ignore > the fact that things like gnome-system-log, etc suddenly don't show any > data an

Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)

2012-10-25 Thread David Lehman
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 18:24 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: > On 10/19/2012 10:01 AM, David Lehman wrote: > > You can create and destroy lvm devices. You can reuse existing LVs, > > optionally reformatting them. You can encrypt or decrypt them. What you > > cannot do is allocate new LVs from old VGs. Tha

[perl-PPIx-Utilities] Modernize spec file

2012-10-25 Thread Petr Pisar
commit b2402deadda9360dabbf9d03dc38fb4e60e8325e Author: Petr Písař Date: Thu Oct 25 17:32:37 2012 +0200 Modernize spec file perl-PPIx-Utilities.spec |7 --- 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-PPIx-Utilities.spec b/perl-PPIx-Utilities.spec index

[perl-PPIx-Utilities] Specify all dependencies

2012-10-25 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 6bcc30c839a359684b9ada3ca6729cc07dc8dbf6 Author: Petr Písař Date: Thu Oct 25 17:32:06 2012 +0200 Specify all dependencies perl-PPIx-Utilities.spec | 20 ++-- 1 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-PPIx-Utilities.spec b/perl-PPIx-Ut

Re: [FYI] Motif finally opened under LGPL

2012-10-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Jeu 25 octobre 2012 10:17, Peter Lemenkov a écrit : > Hello All! > > Not so long after opening CDE they relicensed (Open)Motif under LGPL. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/motif/ > > Time to rewrite everything with Motif! :) Before that, some crazy people need to rewrite it to work with way

[perl-GD] 2.46 bump

2012-10-25 Thread Petr Šabata
commit f61e4cb60d72530eb6082d8716880498ab5c2de5 Author: Petr Šabata Date: Thu Oct 25 17:05:25 2012 +0200 2.46 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-GD.spec | 49 ++--- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 28 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-) --- d

File GD-2.46.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2012-10-25 Thread Petr Šabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-GD: ea86a94eb45330eae27ecbfd5c2f43bb GD-2.46.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-d

Re: change of names of configuration files

2012-10-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jaroslav Reznik said: > - Original Message - > > Hi devels, > > I'd like to ask for your opinion, especially those from anaconda, > > system-config-* and localization. The last commit in systemd [1] > > changed > > names of configuration files. Does someone else than syst

Re: change of names of configuration files

2012-10-25 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > Hi devels, > I'd like to ask for your opinion, especially those from anaconda, > system-config-* and localization. The last commit in systemd [1] > changed > names of configuration files. Does someone else than systemd tools > using > them? Fedora 18 is (or will be so

Re: change of names of configuration files

2012-10-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 03:39:27PM +0200, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: > Hi devels, > I'd like to ask for your opinion, especially those from anaconda, > system-config-* and localization. The last commit in systemd [1] > changed names of configuration files. Does someone else than systemd > tools using

Re: [FYI] Motif finally opened under LGPL

2012-10-25 Thread Ian Malone
On 25 October 2012 14:43, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 03:20:01PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: >> > Are there any particular drawbacks to lesstif at this point? >> It's been a few years I looked at this, but the lesstif implementation >> was incomlete/buggy and some apps didn't r

Re: [FYI] Motif finally opened under LGPL

2012-10-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/25/2012 03:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 03:20:01PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: Are there any particular drawbacks to lesstif at this point? It's been a few years I looked at this, but the lesstif implementation was incomlete/buggy and some apps didn't run properly

Re: [FYI] Motif finally opened under LGPL

2012-10-25 Thread Thomas Woerner
Hello, On 10/25/2012 10:17 AM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: Hello All! Not so long after opening CDE they relicensed (Open)Motif under LGPL. http://sourceforge.net/projects/motif/ Time to rewrite everything with Motif! :) after more than one year of work with ICS and the Open Group it finally got

Re: [FYI] Motif finally opened under LGPL

2012-10-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 03:20:01PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > Are there any particular drawbacks to lesstif at this point? > It's been a few years I looked at this, but the lesstif implementation > was incomlete/buggy and some apps didn't run properly with lesstif but > did with openmotif. I

change of names of configuration files

2012-10-25 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
Hi devels, I'd like to ask for your opinion, especially those from anaconda, system-config-* and localization. The last commit in systemd [1] changed names of configuration files. Does someone else than systemd tools using them? Fedora 18 is (or will be soon) in freeze, so it would be better s

Re: [FYI] Motif finally opened under LGPL

2012-10-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/25/2012 02:14 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:44:13AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Time to move Motif from "unpronounceable 3rd party repo" into Fedora and to consider rebuilding all lesstif-linked packages against it ;) Are there any particular drawbacks to lesstif

Re: [FYI] Motif finally opened under LGPL

2012-10-25 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On 10/25/12 14:14, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:44:13AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> Time to move Motif from "unpronounceable 3rd party repo" into Fedora >> and to consider rebuilding all lesstif-linked packages against it ;) > > Are there any particular drawbacks to lesst

Re: What are reasonable blockers for making journald the default logger in F19?

2012-10-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
- Original Message - > And, in order for the implementation to really be a *win* for Fedora, > it > would be great if we could coordinate: > > - integration with every log analysis tool tool we ship (for some > tools, > a crude implementation may just be dumping in the output of > jou

Re: [FYI] Motif finally opened under LGPL

2012-10-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On 25/10/12 13:14, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:44:13AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Time to move Motif from "unpronounceable 3rd party repo" into Fedora and to consider rebuilding all lesstif-linked packages against it ;) Are there any particular drawbacks to lesstif at th

Re: [FYI] Motif finally opened under LGPL

2012-10-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:44:13AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Time to move Motif from "unpronounceable 3rd party repo" into Fedora > and to consider rebuilding all lesstif-linked packages against it ;) Are there any particular drawbacks to lesstif at this point? -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedor

Re: EXT4 Data Corruption Bug Hits Stable Linux Kernels

2012-10-25 Thread Neal Becker
Neal Becker wrote: > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIxNDQ > An update: http://lwn.net/Articles/521090/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [FYI] Motif finally opened under LGPL

2012-10-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/25/2012 10:17 AM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: Hello All! Not so long after opening CDE they relicensed (Open)Motif under LGPL. > http://sourceforge.net/projects/motif/ Time to rewrite everything with Motif! :) More seriously: Time to move Motif from "unpronounceable 3rd party repo" into Fe

Re: [SOLVED] kernel 2.6.x and Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (kmod-wl)

2012-10-25 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mar, 23/10/2012 alle 12.36 -0400, tim.laurid...@gmail.com ha scritto: > my laptop has > > 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n > Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) like mine > and it works great with the 3.6.x kernel in F18 out of the box, in > earlier r

[FYI] Motif finally opened under LGPL

2012-10-25 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All! Not so long after opening CDE they relicensed (Open)Motif under LGPL. http://sourceforge.net/projects/motif/ Time to rewrite everything with Motif! :) -- With best regards, Peter Lemenkov. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/l

Re: HEADS-UP: Transition to guile-2.0.x and a new compat-guile1.8 package

2012-10-25 Thread Jan Synacek
On 10/23/2012 12:52 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: > On 10/23/2012 12:12 PM, Jan Synacek wrote: >> This is what I had originally in mind. After trying to realize this idea and >> consulting it with the maintainer (I'm a comaintainer of guile), it didn't >> seem >> right. The problem is that a lot of thin