Re: What are reasonable blockers for making journald the default logger in F19?

2012-10-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 17.10.12 13:42, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 05:45:18PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > b. All utilities should always work sensibly with grep (this is not the > > >case on F18 right now) > > Hmm? How so? Bug? > > Right now: https:/

Re: What are reasonable blockers for making journald the default logger in F19?

2012-10-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 17.10.12 18:02, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote: > I'd like to see the current binary format officially documented > upstream, and a promise not maintain backwards compatibility forever > (and some forwards compat too if possible). The format is documented now: http://www.fr

Re: careless introduced dependencies

2012-10-20 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
Ask in pkgdb to become and comaintainer and fix it ? Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team - Original Message - > From: "Reindl Harald" > To: "Mailing-List fedora-devel" > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 12:41:39 PM > Subject: careless introduced dependencies > > what needs to be done

Re: careless introduced dependencies

2012-10-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:41:39AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > what needs to be done that maintainers try to minimize dependencies? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868201 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868208 File bugs. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architec

careless introduced dependencies

2012-10-20 Thread Reindl Harald
what needs to be done that maintainers try to minimize dependencies? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868201 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868208 what finally happens with careless introduced dependencies is like below - you have a php application using php-pecl-imagick a

F-18 Branched report: 20121020 changes

2012-10-20 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Sat Oct 20 09:15:15 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [almanah] almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-3.0.so.3()(64bit) almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.16()(64bit)

Re: Fixing Puppet in Fedora/EPEL

2012-10-20 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:29:57 -0700 Michael Stahnke wrote: > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:22 PM, > Seth Vidal wrote: > > I'm less worried about the people requesting the newness b/c they > > clearly want change. I'm worried about the people who run rhel b/c > > they fear change. > > I'm more worr