On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 08:43:22AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 07:17:58PM +0800, Daniel Veillard wrote:
> > > libxml2 takes up 5.2M, of which 3.8M is docs
> > It really should go in -devel, I agree !
>
> Check it out -- we've accomplished something with this thread. :
On 10/11/2012 02:44 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 13:11 +0300, Serge wrote:
2012/10/9 tim.lauridsen wrote:
So you make your system incompatible with every other Linux distro out
there, and with all existing documentation, but to what end? Tidyness?
Tidyness, simplicity, ne
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 08:21:02PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > I think turning off sshd by default but having a preset to turn it on
> > makes a lot of sense -- most places which will want it on will be
> > using kickstart, or else will otherwise have little problem enabling
> > it after the fact
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:48:07 +0200
Lennart Poettering wrote:
> These two are much better implemented via explicit time seeks. The
> journal APIs support that just fine, journalctl currently
> doesn't. However it's trivial to add that based on the lower level
> APIs, the only thing that stopped me
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:40:55 -0400
Matthew Miller wrote:
> I think turning off sshd by default but having a preset to turn it on
> makes a lot of sense -- most places which will want it on will be
> using kickstart, or else will otherwise have little problem enabling
> it after the fact.
I think
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 22:12 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 07:06:27PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > It seems like having the preset policy RPMs to make the decision
> > > deterministic is a good idea.
> > Well if you're using a kickstart anyway, you can just stick a sy
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:55:01 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:
> This reminds me, we need to take the trigger files out of the *dm
> packages now, right?
trigger files? Or you mean presets? Yeah.
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 07:06:27PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > It seems like having the preset policy RPMs to make the decision
> > deterministic is a good idea.
> Well if you're using a kickstart anyway, you can just stick a systemctl
> enable command in %post, can't you?
Yes but it's a lit
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 21:22 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 06:07:55PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > > Doesn't that come down to "it's random" in the combined case?
> > > > Well, not exactly. It's in actual install order. So if you
> > > But what if it's done by anaco
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 06:07:55PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > Doesn't that come down to "it's random" in the combined case?
> > > Well, not exactly. It's in actual install order. So if you
> > But what if it's done by anaconda?
> You can do a multiple desktop install with a kickstart fil
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 19:40 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 04:39:13PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > Doesn't that come down to "it's random" in the combined case?
> > Well, not exactly. It's in actual install order. So if you
> >
> > yum install gdm
> > and then
> > yum i
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 12:43 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:08:31 +0200
> Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
>
> > On 10/10/2012 03:25 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 06:01:22PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > >> If you would like to add something to this agenda, yo
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 14:37 -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
> >> Can journalctl send the logs via logwatch?
> >
> > Not sure I can parse this, but IIUC you are wondering whether logwatch
> > is compatible with the journal. Not to my
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 13:11 +0300, Serge wrote:
> 2012/10/9 tim.lauridsen wrote:
>
> >> So you make your system incompatible with every other Linux distro out
> >> there, and with all existing documentation, but to what end? Tidyness?
>
> Tidyness, simplicity, new features... Incompatible with ol
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On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 11:51:56AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On 10/09/2012 11:07 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> >On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 01:29:04PM -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote:
> >>Well, if I don't know *if* it's being used I certainly can't ask
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:48:07AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > "My laptop started acting up last tuesday, I should see whats in the
> > logs from then"
> > "I'd like to run a daily report on my logs"
> These two are much better implemented via explicit time seeks. The
> journal APIs suppor
On Wed, 10.10.12 16:50, Kevin Fenzi (ke...@scrye.com) wrote:
> "My laptop started acting up last tuesday, I should see whats in the
> logs from then"
>
> "I'd like to run a daily report on my logs"
These two are much better implemented via explicit time seeks. The
journal APIs support that just
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 04:39:13PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Doesn't that come down to "it's random" in the combined case?
> Well, not exactly. It's in actual install order. So if you
>
> yum install gdm
> and then
> yum install lightdm
But what if it's done by anaconda?
> > However, if thi
On 10/09/2012 07:25 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
Can't you just you reinstall a package without the nodocs switch/conf in
place to get the docs land on disk ?
You probably also have to skip the scripts, which can have some
unintended consequences. Also it means downloading the entire package
set, n
Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 02:44:53PM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> > Well, hang on, Kay. My understanding was that we're trying to make
> > syslog an optional install in Fedora 18 (or is it 19?). If that is the
>
> The suggestion was to propose this a
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:02:26 +0200
Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
...snip...
> > So make it really better and support time-based rotation. You don't
> > need to make time-based rotation the default, but you'll make a lot
> > of people happy to have the
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:36:29 -0400
Bill Nottingham wrote:
> I suppose 'it depends'. A server might have different presets than a
> desktop - it may want apache on by default, or a DB server config that
> enables mysql/postgres.
Sure, but "server" is like "computer"... very general purpose. ;)
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:50:05 -0400
Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:43:10PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > So, I was going to draft up a policy for this, but then I recalled
> > that we already fixed the display-manager case (whichever one is
> > installed last is run).
>
> Doe
On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Wed, 10.10.12 14:39, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote:
>
>> How is rsyslog properly disabled?
>>
>> sockets.target syslog.target rsyslog.service all seem related.
>
> "systemctl disable rsyslog.service" should suffice.
I
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On Wed, 10.10.12 14:39, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote:
>
> On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
>
> > Syslog is by fact today already an "add-on", and not a
> > required component, it is just installed by default today. I don't use
> > or run syslog on any of my boxes s
On Wed, 10.10.12 22:19, Tomasz Torcz (to...@pipebreaker.pl) wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 03:49:11PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > So make it really better and support time-based rotation. You don't need
> > to make time-based rotation the default, but you'll make a lot of people
> > happy to ha
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On Wed, 10.10.12 21:06, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 10:58:45AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> > Like to me rsyslog since the journal is an integrated part of systemd.
>
> Leaving aside the merits or otherwise of the journal, why does it need
>
On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
> Syslog is by fact today already an "add-on", and not a
> required component, it is just installed by default today. I don't use
> or run syslog on any of my boxes since quite a while.
How is rsyslog properly disabled?
sockets.target syslog.targe
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 10:58:45AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> Like to me rsyslog since the journal is an integrated part of systemd.
>
> Leaving aside the merits or otherwise of the journal, why does it need
> to be part o
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 09:06:56PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 10:58:45AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> > Like to me rsyslog since the journal is an integrated part of systemd.
>
> Leaving aside the merits or otherwise of the journal, why does it need
> to
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 03:49:11PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> So make it really better and support time-based rotation. You don't need
> to make time-based rotation the default, but you'll make a lot of people
> happy to have the option.
Journald will rotate logs when signalled with SIGUSR2. So
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
>> I think you overestimate how much a sysadmin cares about fake
>> messages. The thing that's really important to a sysadmin is to make
>> sure that none of the REAL messages are lost. If someone fakes root
>> login entries by using something as
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 10:58:45AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> Like to me rsyslog since the journal is an integrated part of systemd.
Leaving aside the merits or otherwise of the journal, why does it need
to be part of systemd? Why not have it as a separate project?
(Perhaps requiring
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 21:44 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
>> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Lennart Poettering
>> > wrote:
>> >> I am not generally against adding time-based ro
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On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 21:44 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Lennart Poettering
> > wrote:
> >> I am not generally against adding time-based rotation, but really, this
> >> is much less of a "necessity"
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
>> I am not generally against adding time-based rotation, but really, this
>> is much less of a "necessity" than other things the journal provides,
>> which syslog does not:
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Kevin Fenzi (ke...@scrye.com) said:
> So, I was going to draft up a policy for this, but then I recalled that
> we already fixed the display-manager case (whichever one is installed
> last is run).
>
> For regular spins then, I am not sure what things they would want to
> change in presets. Any
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> I am not generally against adding time-based rotation, but really, this
> is much less of a "necessity" than other things the journal provides,
> which syslog does not: for example per-service rate limits, and
> unfakable meta-data for lo
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> Additionally, it _would_ be cool for log monitoring and analysis tools to
> gain journald support, so that users of those tools can take advantage of
> all the features Lennart lists. If we could have some of those in place
> along with the
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 15:01 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 02:44:53PM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> > case, then even if I require rsyslog for a package, that won't work
> > unless rsyslog is started and running. So, sysadmin's experience
> > changes:
> > Was: Insta
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> Additionally, it _would_ be cool for log monitoring and analysis tools to
> gain journald support, so that users of those tools can take advantage of
> all the features Lennart lists. If we could have some of those in place
> along with the
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 02:44:53PM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> Well, hang on, Kay. My understanding was that we're trying to make
> syslog an optional install in Fedora 18 (or is it 19?). If that is the
The suggestion was to propose this as a feature for F19. I think there's
some addition
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
>>> So, in other words, all our existing log analysis tools have to be
>>> modified if they are to be of any use in Fedora 18?
>>
>> What part of "Run the syslog daemon like you alwa
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:43:10PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> So, I was going to draft up a policy for this, but then I recalled that
> we already fixed the display-manager case (whichever one is installed
> last is run).
Doesn't that come down to "it's random" in the combined case?
> In which
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
>> So, in other words, all our existing log analysis tools have to be
>> modified if they are to be of any use in Fedora 18?
>
> What part of "Run the syslog daemon like you always did, if you need
> syslog files." did you not understand?
Well,
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Kay Sievers wrote:
So, in other words, all our existing log analysis tools have to be
modified if they are to be of any use in Fedora 18?
What part of "Run the syslog daemon like you always did, if you need
syslog files." did you not understand?
Kay,
This is not an
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:08:31 +0200
Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
> On 10/10/2012 03:25 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 06:01:22PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >> If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
> >> this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedo
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 02:37:05PM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> So, in other words, all our existing log analysis tools have to be
> modified if they are to be of any use in Fedora 18?
No, not in the even slightest. I don't think that's even up for discussion.
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
>>> Can journalctl send the logs via logwatch?
>>
>> Not sure I can parse this, but IIUC you are wondering whether logwatch
>> is compatible with the journal. Not to my know
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
>> Can journalctl send the logs via logwatch?
>
> Not sure I can parse this, but IIUC you are wondering whether logwatch
> is compatible with the journal. Not to my knowledge, no. But adding this
> should be fairly easy as the output of "j
On Wed, 10.10.12 10:12, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 09:54:28AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 09:50:43AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> > > Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 09.10.12 09:09, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay
On Wed, 10.10.12 09:54, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 09:50:43AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> > Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > On Tue, 09.10.12 09:09, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote:
> > > > How do you read this log when the system is not running
On Wed, 10.10.12 08:54, Frank Murphy (frankl...@gmail.com) wrote:
> On 09/10/12 15:16, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> >journalctl -D
> >
> >Lennart
> >
>
> Can journalctl send the logs via logwatch?
Not sure I can parse this, but IIUC you are wondering whether logwatch
is compatible with the jo
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Wed, 10.10.12 14:16, Seth Vidal (skvi...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
On Tue, 09.10.12 22:30, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
logrotate has time based policies for very good reasons.
Yeah, because Unix doesn't really allow much else...
On Wed, 10.10.12 14:16, Seth Vidal (skvi...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
> >On Tue, 09.10.12 22:30, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
> >
> logrotate has time based policies for very good reasons.
> >>>
> >>>Yeah, because Unix doesn't really allow much else...
> >>>
> >>Oh come on, stop bashing
On Wed, 10.10.12 17:05, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
> > I am not generally against adding time-based rotation, but really, this
> > is much less of a "necessity" than other things the journal provides,
> > which syslog does
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 09.10.12 22:30, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
logrotate has time based policies for very good reasons.
Yeah, because Unix doesn't really allow much else...
Oh come on, stop bashing unix, logrotate could certainly grow a size
c
On Tue, 09.10.12 22:30, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > logrotate has time based policies for very good reasons.
> >
> > Yeah, because Unix doesn't really allow much else...
> >
> Oh come on, stop bashing unix, logrotate could certainly grow a size
> checking policy if people felt the
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Good day all,
This weeks Fedora ARM status meeting will take place today (Wednesday Oct 10th)
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1)
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
>>> and
>>> unfakable meta-data for log messages.
>>
>> False: http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/imuxsock.html, "trusted syslog
>> properties are available" (and in v7 they can be enabled in the Fedora
>> configuration by default)
>
> It's well meant, b
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
>> which syslog does not: for example per-service rate limits,
>
> False. http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/imuxsock.html, "There is input rate
> limiting available", currently enable
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 04:20:02PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>
> I have added 4 patches to Fedora's iasl package, one of which fixes a
> serious segfault due to pointer truncation:
>
> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/iasl.git/tree/
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856856
>
I have added 4 patches to Fedora's iasl package, one of which fixes a
serious segfault due to pointer truncation:
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/iasl.git/tree/
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856856
However I have absolutely no idea if iasl has an "upstream" as such,
or where els
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 01:11:12PM +0300, Serge wrote:
> 2012/10/9 tim.lauridsen wrote:
>
> > +1 to Richard, I really don't see the purpose, why does it matter that
> > number of dirs in /.
>
> I don't know why, but some people actually like when there're fewer
> subdirectories in a directory.
T
I apologize, I'm ill and not generally up to providing detailed
responses. So just some sourced facts to counter [1] untruths.
For education on what current syslogs do,
http://blog.gerhards.net/2012/10/main-advantages-of-rsyslog-v7-vs-v5.html
is a possible start and http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/man
Once upon a time, Seth Vidal said:
> Not every decision a distribution makes is a good one, lets not get caught
> up believing that we cannot make mistakes.
>
> UsrMove was a mistake. End of discussion. Let's go back.
I agree. The additional churn would be another one-time pain, but then
the B
Thank You Very Much For Your Reply.
I am Interested in the OS Developer Category.
The Description of Programming i need to know for OS Development is not clear.
What All programming languages should i know for OS Development ?
One More Thing, I would like to know. The Fedora's GSoC 2012 Page
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 13:58 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 09.10.12 21:26, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 05:19:59PM -0700, J. Randall Owens wrote:
> > > Just on the naming, I'd rather steer clear of the actual concept, let me
> > > get t
perl-OpenOffice-UNO has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-OpenOffice-UNO-0.07-3.fc17.x86_64 requires
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.14.2)
On i386:
perl-OpenOffice-UNO-0.07-3.fc17.i686 requires
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.14.2)
perl-OpenOffice-UNO-0.07-3.fc17.i686
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
>
> I cannot agree enough. Just b/c we've blundered down a bad route doesn't
> mean you cannot turn back.
>
> Instead of chiseling our way back, let's just revert and go.
>
> Not every decision a distribution makes is a good one, lets not get caug
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Matěj Cepl wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:11:12 +0300, Serge wrote:
Turning /lib into /usr/lib was also incompatible with every other Linux
distro, nevertheless it's already done.
The fact that we've made one useless and harmful mistake doesn't mean
that we should repea
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Paul Flo Williams wrote:
> I'm trying to make an SCM Request on a Package Review ticket to add a
> pseudo-user (the Fonts SIG) to a fonts package that has already been
> approved.
> I'd like to do a number of these, but I've started with bug 857487:
>
> https://bug
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Peter Gordon wrote:
> Please add these two to the list:
>
> * meld (EPEL 5, EPEL 6)
> * opengl-games-utils (EPEL 6)
Orphaned, take them.
-J
>
> Thanks.
> --
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> Who am I? :: http://thecodergeek.com/about-me
>
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I'm trying to make an SCM Request on a Package Review ticket to add a
pseudo-user (the Fonts SIG) to a fonts package that has already been
approved.
I'd like to do a number of these, but I've started with bug 857487:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=857487#c4
I thought that the templat
Alexander Larsson wrote:
> Honestly, we should be building glib2 with --disable-fam, since glib
> will prefer the inotify notification module anyway (it has prio 20 and
> fam prio 10).
It looks[1] like Matthias was watching this thread. Yay!
[1]
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/glib2.git/commit
Compose started at Wed Oct 10 09:15:26 UTC 2012
Broken deps for x86_64
--
[almanah]
almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-3.0.so.3()(64bit)
almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.16()(64bit)
Dne 10.10.2012 14:25, David Howells napsal(a):
Actually, the UsrMove has mucked up at least one way of doing things: we
have/had RHEL customer(s) who kept /usr on AFS and were able to boot just
using the stuff in /bin and /sbin. This is no longer a viable option with
Fedora, and presumably RHEL-
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 02:54:13PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Richard W.M. Jones
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:11:03AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >> On 10/10/2012 08:54 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >> >This would be essential for libguestfs
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 01:58:58PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > The group is already there, so it's not a big stretch, but I agree the
> > naming is confusing when used in this way. ("wheel" isn't exactly
> > straightforward either, but at least it's Traditional.)
> As I already mentioned:
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:54 PM, drago01 wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Richard W.M. Jones
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:11:03AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2012 08:54 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>> >This would be essential for libguestfs tools to p
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:11:03AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> On 10/10/2012 08:54 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> >This would be essential for libguestfs tools to parse logs out of
>> >guests (we do it now by reading /var
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:12:26PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >>About time :-)
> >Awesome.
> >And I want to take a moment to thank everyone for listening to these
> >concerns. I'm optimistic that we can make this all work very nicely.
> Is this documented in the relevant man pages as well?
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