Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-11 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 06/11/2012 05:55 PM, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: Excuse me, but "people like him" used to be our (Fedora's) target audience. Have a read at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base For voluntary Linux consumers who are computer-friendly and likely coll

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-11 Thread nomnex
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:18:07 -0400 > Przemek Klosowski wrote: > > Such instructions for BIOS would say "Turn the computer on and start > hitting the F2 key. If this doesn't work, try the Del key, or maybe > some other key that may or may not be mentioned briefly in a flashing > message right af

Changes to the process of becoming a packaging sponsor

2012-06-11 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
A while back, FESCo approved and I implemented some changes to the process of becoming a sponsor in the packager group, and I wanted to make sure that everyone is aware since the path to becoming a sponsor is shorter and simpler than ever before. The most important change is that sponsor status no

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2012-06-11)

2012-06-11 Thread Jon Ciesla
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-06-11) === Meeting started by limburgher at 17:01:31 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-06-11/fesco.2012-06-11-17.01.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-11 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 06/11/2012 09:56 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: On 06/11/2012 04:11 PM, Scott Schmit wrote: Right now, we're missing the "clear instructions" part. Of course we are missing that part *now*, there is no motherboard with UEFI and Secure Boot in the wild so we can take screenshots and publish them.

Re: Is it impossible to use the same build override twice with bodhi?

2012-06-11 Thread David Howells
Julio Merino wrote: > Changing the end date of the expired override will re-enable it. That works, thanks! David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-11 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, drago01 wrote: > >> "The Fedora Project consistently seeks to create, improve, and >> *spread* free/libre code and content. " ... you can't do that by >> excluding users for such dubious reasons ... > > > You can't do it e

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-11 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, drago01 wrote: "The Fedora Project consistently seeks to create, improve, and *spread* free/libre code and content. " ... you can't do that by excluding users for such dubious reasons ... You can't do it either by excluding *everyone* Paul -- devel mailing list devel@list

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-11 Thread Andreas Bierfert
On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 09:19 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > Andreas, what do you think? > > If you are not fond of this complete solution, can you implement at > least the wine-tahoma-fonts vs wine-tahoma-fonts-system separation, as > you proposed? I will apply my proposed change for wine-tahoma wit

[abi-compliance-checker/f16] Update to latest upstream release.

2012-06-11 Thread Richard Shaw
Summary of changes: 4253cb9... Update to latest upstream release. (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fe

Re: Is it impossible to use the same build override twice with bodhi?

2012-06-11 Thread Julio Merino
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:20 AM, David Howells wrote: > > I need to update my cross-gcc package, but that depends on my cross-binutils > package which is still in updates-testing (should the build process fail, even > though it is pushed to updates-testing?). > > To do this I need to add a build

[perl-Syntax-Highlight-Engine-Kate] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-11 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 6a19d230dbea4bccb0a6d73295244563f6f82e76 Author: Petr Písař Date: Mon Jun 11 17:25:35 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Syntax-Highlight-Engine-Kate.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Syntax-Highlight-Engine-Kate.spec b/perl-S

Is it impossible to use the same build override twice with bodhi?

2012-06-11 Thread David Howells
I need to update my cross-gcc package, but that depends on my cross-binutils package which is still in updates-testing (should the build process fail, even though it is pushed to updates-testing?). To do this I need to add a build override with bodhi for the cross-binutils package - however, this

[perl-NetPacket] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-11 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 17953172b92ea78092548ce52a274e396193f7c4 Author: Petr Písař Date: Mon Jun 11 17:02:01 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-NetPacket.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-NetPacket.spec b/perl-NetPacket.spec index 52a44b8..acc76a8 10

[perl-String-ShellQuote] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-11 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 98813dc3308c4f588ea45f0dc9a98468459a2aa0 Author: Petr Písař Date: Mon Jun 11 16:59:47 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-String-ShellQuote.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-String-ShellQuote.spec b/perl-String-ShellQuote.spec i

[perl-Module-Versions-Report] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-11 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 9336160e1c0642fd43fcc80005d741c433b205a7 Author: Petr Písař Date: Mon Jun 11 16:59:34 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Module-Versions-Report.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Module-Versions-Report.spec b/perl-Module-Version

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-11 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 06/09/2012 04:25 PM, drago01 wrote: > >> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Chris Smart wrote: >>> >>> On 09/06/12 19:34, drago01 wrote: > > Is that actually true though? >> >> >> If Fedora does not implement some form of S

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-11 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Of course we are missing that part *now*, there is no motherboard with UEFI >> and Secure Boot in the wild so we can take screenshots and publish them. >> Once such board will be rel

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-11 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Of course we are missing that part *now*, there is no motherboard with UEFI > and Secure Boot in the wild so we can take screenshots and publish them. > Once such board will be released, plenty of instructions and tutorials will > follow, to m

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-11 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 06/11/2012 04:11 PM, Scott Schmit wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 02:45:21PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: For voluntary Linux consumers who are computer-friendly and likely collaborators to the project, a mere BIOS change *is* trivial. If they are not able to do even that, which level of contri

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-11 Thread Kamil Paral
> Andreas Bierfert wrote: > > We could of course aim for a dual-solution: Let > > wine-tahoma-fonts put the fonts in the wine font dir (mandatory for > > wine) and add a wine-tahoma-fonts-system package (names suggestions > > welcome) which also puts the fonts in the system wide font path > > (opti

[perl-Authen-PAM] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-11 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 6dd30916bc11c45986baa96dc5453c0839896c50 Author: Petr Písař Date: Mon Jun 11 15:12:19 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Authen-PAM.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Authen-PAM.spec b/perl-Authen-PAM.spec index 5ee5dd5..bb37838

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-11 Thread Scott Schmit
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 02:45:21PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 06/09/2012 04:25 PM, drago01 wrote: > >On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Chris Smart wrote: > >>On 09/06/12 19:34, drago01 wrote: > Is that actually true though? > > > >If Fedora does not implement some form of Secure Boot

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-11 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi Adam, On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:39:38 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 16:11 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > > I used preupgrade for the first time and had a similar experience, > > but nothing one cannot fix... > > > > 1. Prepared the preupgrade process (f16->f17) > > 2. reb

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-11 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 06/09/2012 04:25 PM, drago01 wrote: On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Chris Smart wrote: On 09/06/12 19:34, drago01 wrote: Is that actually true though? If Fedora does not implement some form of Secure Boot support, 100% of Fedora users will still be able to install Fedora on new machines, a

Re: How to proceed with MiniDebugInfo

2012-06-11 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 10:10 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 05/25/2012 09:26 AM, Alexander Larsson wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 13:20 -0400, Casey Dahlin wrote: > >> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 09:28:16AM +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: > >>> I'm at a loss to how to proceed with the MiniDebugInf

Re: Fedora ARM and SecureBoot

2012-06-11 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/08/2012 06:37 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 18:14 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: >> On 06/08/2012 05:42 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: >>> And - though it pains me that this next thought might actually be >>> unpopular, though closer investigation might reveal that I'm giving the >>> f

Re: FYI: ocaml 4.00.0 beta going into Rawhide

2012-06-11 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
In case anyone is interested, here's a hacky script I wrote to do the mass rebuild: http://git.annexia.org/?p=mass-rebuild.git;a=summary Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-top is 'top' for virtual machines. Tiny program with many powerfu