Re: How can we make F17 be able to boot on Macs (with or without reFit)

On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > So, long story short - we'll be very interested in reports of > success/failure with TC2 (which should show up tonight or tomorrow) DVD ISO burned to DVD-RW media: Boots EFI mode, with nouveau, with X, just fine off media as the LiveCD cas

Re: Proposal for revitalizing the sponsorship process for packaging

Il giorno 28 aprile 2012 00:10, Stanislav Ochotnicky ha scritto: > Package review is a good thing, no matter how > skilled the packager is. Guidelines change, > people miss things (such as bundling, licensing issues, wrong > permissions, etc.). I will put it bluntly: getting rid of package > review

[Test-Announce] Fedora 17 Final Test Compose 2 (TC2) Available Now!

As per the Fedora 17 schedule [1], Fedora 17 Final Test Compose 2 (TC2) is now available for testing. Content information, including changes, can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5163 . Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing instructi

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > I don't know how proposing and implementing a notification method of doing > the same isn't providing a solution, but you're welcome to your own cross. Sorry Bill -- I'm confused here. Was a notification method actually implemented? Was

Re: F16->F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)

On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 19:50 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > > Has anyone tried to preupgrade from F16 to F17? Are there any problems > related to UsrMove (or anything else)? I made the jump via preupgrade and had quite a bit of trouble. A number of packages didn't get upgraded while some of the

Re: F16->F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 20:05:50 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Are there any serious known problems with apache, python, php, mysql, postgresql? I am using F17 on a machine that use postgres and perl scripts (not mod_perl though) to generate web pages using apache. Things seem to be worki

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

Kamil Paral (kpa...@redhat.com) said: > I find it sad how desktop guys try to veto solutions they don't like, > but they don't push on any other solutions. I don't know how proposing and implementing a notification method of doing the same isn't providing a solution, but you're welcome to your ow

Fedora Kernel Meeting 04-27-2012 Minutes

== #fedora-meeting: Fedora Kernel meeting == Meeting started by jwb at 17:59:30 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-27/fedora-kernel.2012-04-27-17.59.log.html . Meeti

Re: Proposal for revitalizing the sponsorship process for packaging

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:49:58 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: So the big question is -- where did this break down? How can we update our documentation to guide people in this direction? One thing people can do for things obviously covered by a SIG (games in this case) is to let the SIG kn

Re: Proposal for revitalizing the sponsorship process for packaging

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 22:08:20 +0100, Nelson Marques wrote: FIFE wasn't maintained for quite some time when that request was filed. Not pointing fingers, but from the packages I've maintained on other waters I've always kept my stuff updated and in the shape possible. You could also volun

Re: BZ718430 - Unknown Horizons

No dia 27 de Abril de 2012 18:44, Toshio Kuratomi escreveu: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:44:01PM -0400, Rich Mattes wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Nelson Marques >> wrote: >> >>      1) How to check who currently maintains those packages; >> >> >> You can use the fedora pkgdb at htt

Re: Eliminating automatic provides on private libs

[resent another time because the list automatically rejected my mail] On 27/04/12 10:13, Panu Matilainen wrote: [...] > The short background is that for libraries which dont have a SONAME, > rpmbuild fakes one based on the file name. The rationale for this has > been that since the linker perm

[perl-Net-Twitter/f16] Upgrade to 3.18002

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Re: BZ718430 - Unknown Horizons

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:44:01PM -0400, Rich Mattes wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Nelson Marques > wrote: > > 1) How to check who currently maintains those packages; > > > You can use the fedora pkgdb at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb. To get > into contact with the

Re: BZ718430 - Unknown Horizons

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Nelson Marques wrote: > Dear all, > > Following a previous thread debate about Unknown Horizons: > > 1) I'm available to maintain unknown-horizons (UH) in Fedora and EPEL > (RHEL6); > 2) For 1) to happen I would like to maintain also FIFE, which doesn't > seem t

Re: Eliminating automatic provides on private libs

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:13:47AM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > I'm going to add a switch to allow packages to control the behavior > anyway. Whether rpm upstream defaults to the traditional behavior for > compatibility reasons or not is another question, but Fedora is > obviously free to ove

[389-devel] please review ticket 207 - RFE - enable attribute that tracks when a password was last set

https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/207 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/207/0001-Ticket-207-RFE-enable-attribute-that-tracks-when-a-p.patch Thanks, Mark -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-devel

Re: Proposal for revitalizing the sponsorship process for packaging

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:08:20PM +0100, Nelson Marques wrote: > No dia 26 de Abril de 2012 21:35, Toshio Kuratomi > escreveu: > >  1) That there was no reason for you to stop your efforts at packaging the > >  software for Fedora. > > Toshio, I've dropped that package in particular because and

[Test-Announce] ** RE-SCHEDULED ** 2012-05-02 @ 17:00 UTC - F17 Final Blocker Bug Review #2

# F17 Final Blocker Review meeting #2 # Date: 2012-05-02 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net The second F17 final blocker bug review meeting will be re-scheduled to Tuesday 2012-05-02 at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers, as most regular at

Re: How can we make F17 be able to boot on Macs (with or without reFit)

On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:34 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 22:31 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > (Note: *DO NOT* run the installer that is on this image. You'll probably > > end up with a broken grub. Should be fixed soon) > > > > I've put a test image up at > > http://mj

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

On 04/27/2012 10:50 AM, Colin Walters wrote: Hi Kamil, On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 09:22 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: but they don't push on any other solutions. A link from the http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora page directly to http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Quick_

Re: mounted external ext4 causes "high" kworker cpu

Chris Murphy writes: > Normally top reports CPU line, sy at 0.4% when idle. If I format an > external Firewire disk as btrfs and mount it, it remains at 0.4%. If I > reformat as XFS and mount it, again top reports sy at 0.4%. However, > if I reformat as ext4 and mount it, sy runs at 3.5%. These t

Re: Fedora release name in the future

- "Josh Boyer" wrote: > A link to the results was in the first message in this thread. > > Here it is again, just in case: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/results/poll-rel-names > Thanks Josh, I overlooked it. -- Bob -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https:

BZ718430 - Unknown Horizons

Dear all, Following a previous thread debate about Unknown Horizons: 1) I'm available to maintain unknown-horizons (UH) in Fedora and EPEL (RHEL6); 2) For 1) to happen I would like to maintain also FIFE, which doesn't seem to see much love for quite some time; I ask this because FIFE flagship p

Re: Fedora release name in the future

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > - "Toshio Kuratomi" wrote: >> The Board will look at the results and decide whether to stop having >> release >> namees for Fedora 19 or to start the process of revising how they are >> chosen. >> >> If the latter, I'm hoping we

Re: Fedora release name in the future

- "Toshio Kuratomi" wrote: > The Board will look at the results and decide whether to stop having > release > namees for Fedora 19 or to start the process of revising how they are > chosen. > > If the latter, I'm hoping we'll organize that as a working group > outside of > the Board (a Board

Re: Fedora release name in the future

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 03:10:45PM +0200, Antonio Trande wrote: > The poll about Fedora release names keeping is terminated [1]. > And now ? > The Board will look at the results and decide whether to stop having release namees for Fedora 19 or to start the process of revising how they are chosen.

Re: Fedora 17 "slow keys" keeps activating (maybe xfce?)

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:16:34 +0100 "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > I filed a bug about this, but I've no idea what component to file it > against, so it's against something fairly random: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816764 > > After updating Fedora 17 to latest a couple of day

Re: iwlwifi still hangs, clunky workaround

On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 21:27 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > I'm still seeing the wifi lockup issues on 3.3.2-1.fc17.x86_64. > > The logs show: > > Apr 26 21:02:53 thinkpad kernel: [262822.181984] iwlwifi :02:00.0: Queue > 2 stuck for 2000 ms. > Apr 26 21:02:53 thinkpad kernel: [262822.181992]

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 10:26 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > > > but they don't push on any other solutions. > > > > A link from the http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora page directly > > to > > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Quick_Start_Guide/Fedora_Live_Desktop.html >

Re: Proposal for revitalizing the sponsorship process for packaging

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:10:53 +0200, SO (Stanislav) wrote: > Quoting Michael Schwendt (2012-04-26 18:36:51) > > So, what has been proposed before (years ago even) is for advanced > > packagers (aka "provenpackagers" or experienced packagers) to lower the > > hurdle and trust them more in that they

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

> > but they don't push on any other solutions. > > A link from the http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora page directly > to > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Quick_Start_Guide/Fedora_Live_Desktop.html > > ? I've spent 5 minutes looking for that direct link and I ha

Re: Public thanks

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Caghan Demirci wrote: > >   I want to publicly thank Jon Ciesla for helping me out and saving me lots > of time here.  I had been requesting EPEL builds of rabbitvcs and > nautilus-python for many many months, but no one was responding to me.  And > it was definite

Re: Proposal for revitalizing the sponsorship process for packaging

Quoting Michael Schwendt (2012-04-26 18:36:51) > So, what has been proposed before (years ago even) is for advanced > packagers (aka "provenpackagers" or experienced packagers) to lower the > hurdle and trust them more in that they know their stuff. They would not > need to wait for somebody else

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > The whole thing is clearly a mess that needs some high level > streamlining, from the entire process of download from web page (or > receive CD from friend) to the on-disk install first boot. While I certainly wouldn't disagree with this sta

[perl-DBI] 1.620 bump

commit 687a29a9c26d3ea0b9704b6c5cf9e03d2373904b Author: Petr Šabata Date: Fri Apr 27 15:57:31 2012 +0200 1.620 bump .gitignore|1 + perl-DBI.spec | 12 ++-- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore

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Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

Hi Kamil, On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 09:22 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > but they don't push on any other solutions. A link from the http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora page directly to http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Quick_Start_Guide/Fedora_Live_Desktop.html ? To be h

Re: Fedora release name in the future

- "Antonio Trande" wrote: > The poll should really have run through the regular elections to reach > a wider user base. > > What do you mean with "regular elections" ? The board, FESCo and FAMSCo elections that happen regularly with every release. -- Bob -- devel mailing list devel@lists

Re: Fedora release name in the future

* Michael Schwendt [27/04/2012 15:31] : > > Well, I've missed the announcement of this poll. > Where has it been announced? http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2012-April/003060.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2012-April/000919.html Emmanuel -- devel ma

Re: Fedora release name in the future

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:23:31 +0100, JL (Johannes) wrote: > > Well, I've missed the announcement of this poll. > > Where has it been announced? > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-April/166087.html I haven't received that mail. I've tracked down the announcement in the list [we

Re: Proposal for revitalizing the sponsorship process for packaging

I have seen way too many problems caused by people installing such *nonmaintained* packages to even think this will cause more troubles than it will solve. Alex - Original Message - > From: "Vít Ondruch" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:32:33 PM > Su

Re: Fedora release name in the future

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-April/166087.html On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:10:45 +0200, AT (Antonio) wrote: > > > The poll about Fedora release names keeping is terminated > > [1]< > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/votin

Re: Fedora release name in the future

> > The poll should really have run through the regular elections to reach a > wider user base. > > -- Bob > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > What do you mean with "regular elections" ? -- devel mailing list devel@l

[perl-Net-SSH2] 0.44 bump

commit b7fd0588c35ccedfab9c1b7d864a61a1b1287373 Author: Petr Šabata Date: Fri Apr 27 15:22:41 2012 +0200 0.44 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Net-SSH2.spec |5 - sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gi

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

> There seems to be at least some consensus that: > > * The notification, unless permanent, is not an ideal solution here > because once it goes away, the user is in the same situation of > confusion as to how to install the Live Image to disk. > > * The extension as proposed is not an ideal solu

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Re: Fedora release name in the future

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:10:45 +0200, AT (Antonio) wrote: > The poll about Fedora release names keeping is terminated > [1]. > > And now ? Well, I've missed the announcement of this

Re: Fedora release name in the future

- "Pierre-Yves Chibon" wrote: > On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 15:10 +0200, Antonio Trande wrote: > > The poll about Fedora release names keeping is terminated > > > [1]. > > Just for

Re: Fedora release name in the future

On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 15:10 +0200, Antonio Trande wrote: > The poll about Fedora release names keeping is terminated > [1]. Just for reference for the future, the last part of your u

rawhide report: 20120427 changes

Compose started at Fri Apr 27 08:15:04 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [389-admin] 389-admin-1.1.28-1.fc18.i686 requires libicuuc.so.48 389-admin-1.1.28-1.fc18.i686 requires libicui18n.so.48 389-admin-1.1.28-1.fc18.

Public thanks

I want to publicly thank Jon Ciesla for helping me out and saving me lots of time here. I had been requesting EPEL builds of rabbitvcs and nautilus-python for many many months, but no one was responding to me. And it was definitely not worth the effort to become a co-maintainer and learning the

Re: Proposal for revitalizing the sponsorship process for packaging

Dne 26.4.2012 18:13, Alec Leamas napsal(a): On 04/26/2012 05:49 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:32:17 +0200, AL (Alec) wrote: OT? The question here isn't really what submitters do or don't, isn't it what we could do to improve the process?. The point is that not all submit

Fedora Elections: General information, and questionnaire opening.

GREETINGS! It is once again time for election season to begin. As noted in the elections schedule[1], the elections questionnaire is now open to populate with questions for candidates, and will close on May 8th. The elections nomination period will begin AFTER the questionnaire period has c

Fest Swing: Package review and sponsoring required. Was: Self Introduction

Il giorno mer, 25/04/2012 alle 18.36 +0200, Mario Torre ha scritto: > Hello all! > > I'm trying to package Fest for Fedora, and I need a sponsor for this > first package: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816264 > > This is my first package, but I'm not new to Fedora, I recently jo

Re: Eliminating automatic provides on private libs

Hi, On 04/27/2012 10:13 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: I started once again looking at ways to eliminate the unwanted provides on private libs such as dlopen()'ed modules with minimal fuss and breakage. Been down this route more than once but I suspect the last time was before the major dependen

Re: Private-libraries in /usr/lib* - invalid soname.

On 04/27/2012 11:32 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:01:16 +0200, AL (Alec) wrote: You I am am a newbie, and although the overall wiki rule is "Be Bold" this is not really the place for me to be that IMHO. So, I have prepared a draft in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Commo

Re: iwlwifi still hangs, clunky workaround

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:27:23PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > A workaround that makes the wifi bearable (but not pleasant) is: > > modprobe iwlwifi wd_disable=1 Thanks. This is an improvement over what I was doing which was: * Disable wireless in NetworkMangler. * modprobe -r iwlwifi * mod

Re: Fedora 17 "slow keys" keeps activating (maybe xfce?)

On 27/04/12 11:16, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: * Provide a way to permanently disable accessibility features for those who don't need them. Rich. I don't have an accessibility menu on Xfce F17 or Rawhide. -- Regards, Frank "Jack of all, fubars" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraprojec

Fedora 17 "slow keys" keeps activating (maybe xfce?)

I filed a bug about this, but I've no idea what component to file it against, so it's against something fairly random: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816764 After updating Fedora 17 to latest a couple of days ago, my keyboard keeps "dying". In fact I found out that what's happening

Re: Private-libraries in /usr/lib* - invalid soname.

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:01:16 +0200, AL (Alec) wrote: > I am am a newbie, and although the overall wiki rule is "Be Bold" this > is not really the place for me to be that IMHO. So, I have prepared a > draft in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Common_Rpmlint_issues (the > "Discussion" tab). M

Re: Eliminating automatic provides on private libs

On 04/27/2012 11:25 AM, Paul Howarth wrote: On 04/27/2012 09:13 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: I started once again looking at ways to eliminate the unwanted provides on private libs such as dlopen()'ed modules with minimal fuss and breakage. Been down this route more than once but I suspect the las

Re: Eliminating automatic provides on private libs

On 04/27/2012 09:13 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: I started once again looking at ways to eliminate the unwanted provides on private libs such as dlopen()'ed modules with minimal fuss and breakage. Been down this route more than once but I suspect the last time was before the major dependency genera

Eliminating automatic provides on private libs

I started once again looking at ways to eliminate the unwanted provides on private libs such as dlopen()'ed modules with minimal fuss and breakage. Been down this route more than once but I suspect the last time was before the major dependency generator changes in rpm-4.9.x, which made tweaki

Re: Fedora 18 Release name voting and Poll for whether to continue naming releases

On Apr 20, 2012 5:34 PM, "Matej Cepl" wrote: > > On 20.4.2012 18:09, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Never. Nobody uses the code names. It's a waste of time and choosing names like "Beefy Miracle" is a good way of making the distro look a whole lot less professional. >> >> >> Well, as fa