Hi all,
We have darkserver [1] in production. The URL is [2].
This service is providing the API(s) based on which other developers
can write tools to query details of build-ids. I am also writing a
command line client for the same, which will provide formatted output
so that shell scripts can eas
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 03:38:37PM -0400, Chris Tyler wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 12:10 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> > I started looking at:
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/HowToQemu
> >
> > VM starts okay in F16 with setsebool -P virt_use_execmem=on
> >
> > But the
I cannot get qemu-system-arm to boot any of our F17 kernels, but
here's what I did anyway.
# Make a disk image:
$ wget 'http://fedora.roving-it.com/rootfs-f17-hfp-alpha1.tar.bz2'
$ bunzip2 rootfs-f17-hfp-alpha1.tar.bz2
$ virt-make-fs -s 2G -t ext3 -F raw --partition=mbr rootfs-f17-hfp-alpha1.tar
On Mar 22, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
> On 03/23/2012 12:50 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>
> Under Preferences | Advanced | Encryption:
>
>Toggled TLS box
The "Use TLS 1.0" box? This is enabled by default. I've been using this
combination for the entire F16 lifecycle, both in VM
On 03/23/2012 12:50 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>
>
>> On 03/22/2012 09:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>>>
>>>
So I played around with the encryption settings and when
I disable
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Similarly, I don't want to replace my 13.3" notebook with a 7-10" tablet or
> netbook, even if the performance were the same. 13.3" fits nicely in my
> backpack, which fits my needs for mobility.
I think this conversation has gone wildly off-
On Mar 22, 2012, at 9:46 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
>> Anecdotal data is great, but it's just anecdotal. I tried using a laptop
>> and no desktop for a year and switched back to a desktop, I found the
>> faff involved in switching between the two setups too much of a pain.
>>
On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
> On 03/22/2012 09:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>>
>>> So I played around with the encryption settings and when
>>> I disabled TLS the crashes stopped. At least so far. I haven't had a
>>> crash in
Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> I tried to build mod_spdy and I hit this
> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 460:
> elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0x)
> == 8' failed!
>
> I get this when I try to build even a simple hello world program.
>
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> But that's the only way how we can legally point people to the "solution".
> We can't show the PackageKit window saying - now enable the repo we
> shouldn't talk about :D and say install gstreamer-plugins-ugly. In that
> case we can just ship it in our own repos :) On the o
Hi Kevin,
Thanks for your message.
On 03/22/2012 11:21 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Peter Robinson wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:28 PM, drago01 wrote:
>>> The only ones where this is possible right now are actually x86 based
>>> tablets. Even Windows 8 wont help here as MS mandates that th
Adam Williamson wrote:
> Anecdotal data is great, but it's just anecdotal. I tried using a laptop
> and no desktop for a year and switched back to a desktop, I found the
> faff involved in switching between the two setups too much of a pain.
> I'm sure I'm not unique either. =)
My desktop is actua
Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:28 PM, drago01 wrote:
>> The only ones where this is possible right now are actually x86 based
>> tablets. Even Windows 8 wont help here as MS mandates that the
>> devices are locked with secure boot without having an option to disable
>> it.
>
>
Peter Robinson wrote:
> But as you said yourself in an earlier thread a lot of compilation
> isn't massively parallel so massive amount of cores for building isn't
> necessarily as much a win as pure GHz. On that front the current A15
> gen which is arriving now easily does the 2.5 - 3 ghz that the
Peter Robinson wrote:
> That is correct, I presume he's referring to the big.LITTLE
> architecture which runs 8 cores, 4 low power low speed, 4 high power
> high speed. At the moment for the initial implementation they are
> suspending / resuming to switch between the pair but in the future
> they
Peter Robinson wrote:
> But it's not just about computers, I'm very surprised that being the
> KDE advocate you are that you don't want to run your hard work on the
> KDE based Spark/Vivaldi tablet.
I'm not saying devices like the Vivaldi shouldn't be a target. I'm saying
they shouldn't be a PRIMA
Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> The number of desktops has been flat for last 7 years.
So first of all, as you pointed out yourself, this is not "the number of
desktop", but the number of NEW desktops shipped.
The numbers have been "flat" in that the growth in shipments has slowed
down. But they're
Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> Fair enough, but the trends are well established, and the data are for
> shipments so the actual deployed numbers are compounded (flat
> shipments translate to steady growth, linear or faster shipment growth
> means quadratic or maybe even exponential growth).
Quite the
On 03/22/2012 10:00 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
> On 03/22/2012 09:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>>
>>
>>> So I played around with the encryption settings and when
>>> I disabled TLS the crashes stopped. At least so far. I haven't had a
>>>
drago01 wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:56 AM, Kevin Kofler
> wrote:
>> I'm surprised emulating ARM in QEMU is so much faster than qemu-system-
>> x86_64
>> (which was how I measured the 50 times).
>
> Given that x86_64 is way more complex then ARM it is not *that*
> surprising.
I think the
On 03/22/2012 09:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Mar 22, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>
>> So I played around with the encryption settings and when
>> I disabled TLS the crashes stopped. At least so far. I haven't had a
>> crash in a couple hours now.
>>
> Change them back, repr
On Mar 22, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
> So I played around with the encryption settings and when
> I disabled TLS the crashes stopped. At least so far. I haven't had a
> crash in a couple hours now.
Change them back, reproduce crash, post the settings you're using.
Chris Murphy
--
On 03/22/2012 07:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Mar 22, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>
>> Just odd that Firefox is the only app causing the problem. I'll let
>> memtest run a while.
>>
> Yeah different apps have different memory requirements so it just may be
> doing something a l
On 03/22/2012 05:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I tried using a
laptop and no desktop for a year and switched _back_ to a desktop, I
found the faff involved in switching between the two setups too much
of a pain. I'm sure I'm not unique either. =)
Me too.
Oops. I bet I'm not supposed to send
On Mar 22, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>
> Just odd that Firefox is the only app causing the problem. I'll let
> memtest run a while.
Yeah different apps have different memory requirements so it just may be doing
something a little different than other apps. Plus it's kindof a princess
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 02:02:26PM -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> On 03/22/2012 01:30 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> >On 03/22/2012 11:10 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> >>I started looking at:
> >>
> >>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/HowToQemu
> >>
> >>VM starts okay in F16 with setseb
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 01:11:27PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> I have spoken with the OpenSUSE guys they dont use qemu-system-arm but
> rather qemu-arm and lay out things and build using a hybrid
> environment thats also how they build ppc s390 and other arches. the
> only build hardware they h
On 03/22/2012 06:36 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Mar 22, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>
>
>> On 03/22/2012 06:02 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
Haven't been having any other problems with other apps but I'll look
On 03/21/2012 04:21 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
> On 03/21/2012 03:40 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>>
>>
>>> From xen-devel list.
>>>
>>> How can I downgrade my Fedora 16 kernel to get around this kernel bug
>>> identified by Konrad?
>>>
>>> Yu
On Mar 22, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
> On 03/22/2012 06:02 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Haven't been having any other problems with other apps but I'll look at
>>> running memtest.
>>>
>>> Here are some particulars:
>>>
>>> ke
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 18:07 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote:
> On 03/22/2012 06:02 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Mar 22, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Haven't been having any other problems with other apps but I'll look at
> >> running memtest.
> >>
> >> Here are some particulars:
>
On 03/22/2012 06:02 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Mar 22, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>
>
>> Haven't been having any other problems with other apps but I'll look at
>> running memtest.
>>
>> Here are some particulars:
>>
>>kernel-PAE-3.2.10-3.fc16.i686
>>firefox-11.0-1.fc16.i686
>
On Mar 22, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
> Haven't been having any other problems with other apps but I'll look at
> running memtest.
>
> Here are some particulars:
>
>kernel-PAE-3.2.10-3.fc16.i686
>firefox-11.0-1.fc16.i686
What happens if you regress to an older kernel, or an old
On Mar 22, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 14:55 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>> The mitigating factors are:
>>>
>>> a) the desktop market could be considered unlikely to literally _die_.
>>> What may h
On Mar 22, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 14:08 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>> The overwhelming bulk of the market is consumption. Not creation. And
>> the growth is in the former, not the latter.
>
> I would still like you to consider the question of whether
On 03/22/2012 05:20 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
> On 03/22/2012 05:13 PM, Heiko Adams wrote:
>
>> Am 22.03.2012 22:04, schrieb Gerry Reno:
>>
>>
>>> If I might interrupt this non-stop streaming ARM discussion for just a
>>> second, is anyone else having problems with Firefox 11 in Fedora 16?
>
On 03/22/2012 05:13 PM, Heiko Adams wrote:
> Am 22.03.2012 22:04, schrieb Gerry Reno:
>
>> If I might interrupt this non-stop streaming ARM discussion for just a
>> second, is anyone else having problems with Firefox 11 in Fedora 16?
>>
>> Firefox is crashing hard, as in shutting down the entire
Am 22.03.2012 22:04, schrieb Gerry Reno:
> If I might interrupt this non-stop streaming ARM discussion for just a
> second, is anyone else having problems with Firefox 11 in Fedora 16?
>
> Firefox is crashing hard, as in shutting down the entire computer. And
> this is happening quite frequently
If I might interrupt this non-stop streaming ARM discussion for just a
second, is anyone else having problems with Firefox 11 in Fedora 16?
Firefox is crashing hard, as in shutting down the entire computer. And
this is happening quite frequently. Firefox is stock. No addons, or
changes. Just
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 14:55 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Mar 22, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >
> > The mitigating factors are:
> >
> > a) the desktop market could be considered unlikely to literally _die_.
> > What may happen instead is it could become much more of a niche - in
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 15:46 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > It doesn't seem like a huge over-reach to assume that any RH interest in
> > ARM is more on the server side than a raging desire to take on Android
> > and the iPad:) (Note: I don't have any sekrit inside in
On 03/22/2012 01:23 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I would still like you to consider the question of whether this holds
for the Fedora case, though. Is Fedora as a project in fact suitable -
either in current implementation, or in terms of our self-definition and
long term goals - for this whole 'ma
On Mar 22, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> The mitigating factors are:
>
> a) the desktop market could be considered unlikely to literally _die_.
> What may happen instead is it could become much more of a niche - in
> fact, very similar to what it was in the 1980s and early 1990s.
I booted the F17 beta ISO (x86_64, if it matters) on two laptops and
tried the provided memtest. In both cases it reported insane amounts of
errors in test 7 after running successfully through tests 1..6. The
reported error addresses are in the 120 MB area.
I checked that when memtest is confi
2012/3/22 John Reiser :
>> I tried to build hello word
>>
>> #include
>>
>> int main(void)
>> {
>> printf("test\n");
>>
>> return 0;
>> }
>>
>> and it fails.
>
> You did not show the error message, nor the _exact_ command which
> generated it. Re-run with "gcc -v" so that we can see.
>
>
Adam Williamson wrote:
It doesn't seem like a huge over-reach to assume that any RH interest in
ARM is more on the server side than a raging desire to take on Android
and the iPad:) (Note: I don't have any sekrit inside info on this. It
seems like a reasonable guess, though.)
Yes, I realize th
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 15:32 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > I would still like you to consider the question of whether this holds
> > for the Fedora case, though. Is Fedora as a project in fact suitable -
> > either in current implementation, or in terms of our self-d
> I tried to build hello word
>
> #include
>
> int main(void)
> {
> printf("test\n");
>
> return 0;
> }
>
> and it fails.
You did not show the error message, nor the _exact_ command which
generated it. Re-run with "gcc -v" so that we can see.
> It seems to me that I have something
Adam Williamson wrote:
I would still like you to consider the question of whether this holds
for the Fedora case, though. Is Fedora as a project in fact suitable -
either in current implementation, or in terms of our self-definition and
long term goals - for this whole 'market' you are identifyin
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 16:13 -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> Of course predictions are tricky, especially when they concern the
> future :)
I am curious as to what _other_ types of prediction you think exist. =)
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On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 14:08 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> The overwhelming bulk of the market is consumption. Not creation. And
> the growth is in the former, not the latter.
I would still like you to consider the question of whether this holds
for the Fedora case, though. Is Fedora as a project i
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> [...]
>> A kindle (unless you mean the kindle fire tablet) is an ereader which
>> aligns exactly with what I have said.
>
> I think you overestimate the need/dependency people have for desktop/laptop
> computers.
You underestimate it ;)
Le
2012/3/22 John Reiser :
>> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 460:
>> elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0x)
>> == 8' failed!
>
> Find the .o file which is being processed at the time of the complaint.
.o file is not even generated
[mich
On 03/22/2012 02:38 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 09:11 -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
On 03/22/2012 02:31 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Tom Lane wrote:
That opinion is flat out ridiculous. Or maybe it makes sense if you
think consumer desktops are the be-all and end-all; but th
On Mar 22, 2012, at 12:15 PM, drago01 wrote:
> Last time I checked a "paper" isn't a laptop / pc so replacing a paper
> with tablets (which can be the better choice depending on the use
> case) does not mean "people are replacing there pcs with tablets".
Both jump from PC dependency, and skippin
On 03/22/2012 01:30 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
On 03/22/2012 11:10 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
I started looking at:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/HowToQemu
VM starts okay in F16 with setsebool -P virt_use_execmem=on
But the image is a Fedora 12 system. Any updated images out
> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 460:
> elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0x)
> == 8' failed!
Find the .o file which is being processed at the time of the complaint.
If necessary, then use the --trace option to ld.
Run "readelf --rel
On 03/22/2012 03:38 PM, Chris Tyler wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 12:10 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote:
>> I started looking at:
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/HowToQemu
>>
>> VM starts okay in F16 with setsebool -P virt_use_execmem=on
>>
>> But the image is a Fedora 12 system
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On 03/20/2012 06:51 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> On 03/20/2012 03:33 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> "doing all of these things" doesn't happen magically just because the
>> board/fesco grants that ARM is suddenly a primary arch. If we made arm a
>> primary arch tomorrow, you'd still have to solve all
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 12:10 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> I started looking at:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/HowToQemu
>
> VM starts okay in F16 with setsebool -P virt_use_execmem=on
>
> But the image is a Fedora 12 system. Any updated images out there?
New yum-install
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 16:12 +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote:
>
> Despite the fact that this is pretty wild guess, I don't think that
> Fedora should only care about what's happening on the developed
> countries and ignore the rest of the world.
I don't think this is necessarily a developed-vs-develop
On 03/22/2012 11:10 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
I started looking at:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/HowToQemu
VM starts okay in F16 with setsebool -P virt_use_execmem=on
But the image is a Fedora 12 system. Any updated images out there?
You should be able to use the F17 alph
Hi,
I tried to build mod_spdy and I hit this
Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 460:
elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0x)
== 8' failed!
I get this when I try to build even a simple hello world program.
I checked RAM with memtest86+ (I
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hallo,
because I have read, that grub2 should be able to boot from LVM. I have
done the
following test in a VM
1.) Fresh install of Fedora 16. Unfortunately, I can't create a disk
which contains olny
a volume group, so I have taken the default parti
drago01 (drag...@gmail.com) said:
> > In my experience, that's way more about the interface than anything else.
> >
> > Take for example a middle schooler - mine uses a laptop. Not because it
> > runs a desktop OS, not because it runs Fedora, but mainly just because
> > who on earth wants to writ
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 09:11 -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> On 03/22/2012 02:31 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >> That opinion is flat out ridiculous. Or maybe it makes sense if you
> >> think consumer desktops are the be-all and end-all; but they are not.
> >
> > Consumer desktop
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 01:57 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Desktop computers are used overwhelmingly for email and web browsing.
> It's total overkill. The desktop computer is a super computer that no
> consumer really needs. It's a dying market.
I think you may be, to some extent, over-stating yo
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:20 PM, drago01 wrote:
>> Which is exactly what I am trying to say as soon as you want to create
>> content you want a "real device". (keyboard! & interface)
>
> Folks! In this mailing list I'd expect people to kno
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:20 PM, drago01 wrote:
> Which is exactly what I am trying to say as soon as you want to create
> content you want a "real device". (keyboard! & interface)
Folks! In this mailing list I'd expect people to know: an arch is an
arch is an arch.
Some ARM CPUs will control yo
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> drago01 (drag...@gmail.com) said:
>> > The data is noisy but there's a significant minority who do not have
>> > computers, now buying a smart phone. This will grow. They may never end up
>> > with a desktop. Even Apple has disconnected a
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2012, at 3:16 AM, drago01 wrote:
>>
>> I said the people I was talking about used them as toys. (Please read
>> what I wrote and don't try to refute stuff that isn't even written
>> there).
>
> Don't get in a huff over things I
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:
>> Where is the hardware? Do you see signs of ARM boards coming in the
>> near future (next 1 year or so) on which users can install operating
>> systems of their choice?
>
> I wonder where you've been. See Raspberry Pi and Trimslice for a
> co
I started looking at:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/HowToQemu
VM starts okay in F16 with setsebool -P virt_use_execmem=on
But the image is a Fedora 12 system. Any updated images out there?
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On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> Maybe a distribution of PandaBoards/R-Pi for every FAS account holder could
> help, any sponsor? :D
OLPC is starting mass production of XO-1.75 units, based on an ARMv7
Marvell Armada 610. School kids in Uruguay and Nicaragua will start
th
> From what I know about the Fedora on ARM,
Please check your "what you know" against the current situtation, it's
very easy to let obsolete impressions carry forth, but they're no
longer applicable.
> they use a rather scary looking pile of development boards with very
> poor I/O.
Buy a trimsl
drago01 (drag...@gmail.com) said:
> > The data is noisy but there's a significant minority who do not have
> > computers, now buying a smart phone. This will grow. They may never end up
> > with a desktop. Even Apple has disconnected a requirement for having a
> > desktop. My parents are candid
On 03/22/2012 04:26 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
Actually that is not the case, it might be the case in the western
developed world, but in the developing world in places like China,
India and Africa in most cases the first an only device that a user
has is a smart phone or tablet due to the fact it
On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>>
>
> Apples and oranges. You could print the same stats a few years ago about cars
> vs scooters/bicycles
>
> Guess what all the Chinese/Indian bicycle riders started to buy as soon as
> they had the means to…
They did not, are not. Especi
On 03/22/2012 12:23 AM, drago01 wrote:
While I agree that we will see more smartphones and tablets in the
future the people that actually replace there traditional computers
with tablets or even smartphones are near zero.
Sells do not really tell the whole story as many people simply don't
have a
On Mar 22, 2012, at 3:16 AM, drago01 wrote:
>
> I said the people I was talking about used them as toys. (Please read
> what I wrote and don't try to refute stuff that isn't even written
> there).
Don't get in a huff over things I haven't said either. Most people are also
very entertained by t
On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>
> That depends, in the developed western world probably not, in the
> developing world most users are just going straight to smartphones and
> tablets and not bothering with desktops/laptops at all. The reasons
> for this is low power and pric
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:52:29 -0400
Peter Jones wrote:
> 6) supported platforms must be fully integrated into building and
> installation.
Apropos that, what are the supported platforms right now?
From what I know about the Fedora on ARM, they use a rather scary
looking pile of development b
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Kalev Lember wrote:
> On 03/22/2012 04:24 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, den 22.03.2012, 14:53 +0100 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:41:37 +0100, CW (Christoph) wrote:
> >>> I
On 03/22/2012 04:24 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 22.03.2012, 14:53 +0100 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:41:37 +0100, CW (Christoph) wrote:
>>> I was aware of the F17 update not yet being pushed. The funny (?) thing
>>> is that the F17 mails stopped after th
> Where is the hardware?
-- development boards --
BeagleBoard
PandaBoard (dual-core 1GHz, 1GB)
PandaBoard ES (dual-core 1.2GHz, 1GB)
You can buy the above at digikey, they've been shipping for a while.
They come with Ubuntu Desktop, just add keyboard, mouse, and monitor.
Raspberry Pi - slower,
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Broken deps for x86_64
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[HippoDraw]
HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.i686 requires python-numarray
HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.x86_64 requires python-numarray
HippoDraw-
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012, Siddharth Mohan Misra wrote:
My understanding of the project is that when a user connects to a network,
all settings such as proxy settings, IP settings (if required), sharing
options etc will be saved for each network. So whenever the user connects to
a previously connected
Hello!
I am Siddharth 2nd year Undergraduate student pursuing M.Sc(TECH)
Information Systems at BITS-Pilani India. I am thorough with languages like
C, C++ and Java and currently learning Python.
I am keenly interested in contributing to the Integrate Proxy Settings and
Network Connections(Locati
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 10:40 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
> Hi,
> just a little follow-up. I came across similar question with other user
> and even not for him, but for me, in my F17 install, I get an empty
> string when issuing:
>$ dconf read /org/gnome/evolution/mail/junk-default-plugin
>
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:28 PM, drago01 wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>>> I see that this discussion has gone from ARM as a primary architecture
>>> for Fedora to a general Tablets vs PC market discussion. IMHO, While
>>> there is no doubt that the tablet/mobil
commit 905c7572b719dda5465b5d8a5433f2a0326cdc82
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On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> I see that this discussion has gone from ARM as a primary architecture
>> for Fedora to a general Tablets vs PC market discussion. IMHO, While
>> there is no doubt that the tablet/mobile market is growing rapidly,
>> The desktop and laptop
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