Re: RATS: now in production

2012-02-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 02/21/2012 10:48 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > the rats_install test runs an entirely automated test of the Fedora > installer daily, against the daily installer composes provided by > release engineering. It provides detailed logs and pinpoints where > failure occurs if the installation is n

RATS: now in production

2012-02-20 Thread Adam Williamson
Don't worry, they don't carry diseases. I really just wanted to spread this news out a little more because it's really cool stuff. Thanks to Hongqing Yang and Kamil Paral, one of the long-term goals of the AutoQA project is now a reality: http://autoqa-stg.fedoraproject.org/resultsdb/frontend/se

Fedora 17 Alpha status update

2012-02-20 Thread Adam Williamson
Another quick F17 Alpha status update: we now have updates in for all open blockers. However, the fix for the plymouth issue was to add it to comps, and it takes a few hours for that change to be registered before we can do a compose. (All times in the following are PST). The compose should be hap

Re: Some fedora projects are still not using transifex (properly)

2012-02-20 Thread Kévin Raymond
Hi guys, It tooks me few hours as this is my first python script :) I've managed to get the whole list of transifex.net projects who appears dead, here they are: (see bellow for the explaination) @devel, if your project is named there, please get in touch with us [D] avahi [D] expendable [M] fe

Re: F17 Slowness

2012-02-20 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> But I just had another variant of this idea: could the string "debug" be >> embedded in the release string of the kernel? (and wire this up in the >> specfile so that it's automatically added) >> >> so e.g. >>  kernel-3.3.0-0.rc3.git6.2.fc18 >>

Fedora Engineering "Open House" IRC Meeting - Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 1800 UTC

2012-02-20 Thread Tom Callaway
Apologies in advance for the wide distribution of this message. The Fedora Engineering team is holding an "Open House" IRC meeting on Thursday, February 23, 2012 at 18:00 UTC (12:00 PM EST). This will be a moderated meeting in which we will briefly present the upcoming projects for the Fedora Engi

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 21:25, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le Lun 20 février 2012 21:20, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit : >> Le Lun 20 février 2012 21:07, Kay Sievers a écrit : > >>> I couldn't disagree more. >>> >>> /usr/share in our general understanding not to be used for >>> package-private things. >> >

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: > 2012/2/20 Miloslav Trmač : >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: >>> The general rule for $libdir is that it is reserved for shared objects >>> and their directly associated files like pkgconfig files. >> No, that's not at all

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Kay Sievers
2012/2/20 Miloslav Trmač : > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: >> The general rule for $libdir is that it is reserved for shared objects >> and their directly associated files like pkgconfig files. > No, that's not at all what the FHS says. "Applications may use a single subdire

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Lun 20 février 2012 21:20, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit : > > Le Lun 20 février 2012 21:07, Kay Sievers a écrit : >> I couldn't disagree more. >> >> /usr/share in our general understanding not to be used for >> package-private things. > > But those files are not package-private! Even ignoring the e

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: > The general rule for $libdir is that it is reserved for shared objects > and their directly associated files like pkgconfig files. No, that's not at all what the FHS says. Please don't claim that any suggested meaning, however reasonable it ma

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Lun 20 février 2012 21:07, Kay Sievers a écrit : > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 20:42, Nicolas Mailhot > wrote: >> >> Le Lun 20 février 2012 18:50, Kay Sievers a écrit : >>> On Feb 20, 2012 6:25 PM, "Toshio Kuratomi" wrote: >> >>> Udev rules and systemd units belong to the installed daemon. This d

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: > /usr/share in our general understanding not to be used for > package-private things. Who is "we"? This is in direct conflict with the FHS: "Any program or package which contains or requires data that doesn't need to be modified should store t

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 20:18, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:30:11PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> On Mon, 20.02.12 09:25, Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) wrote: >> > This sounds like the unit files belong in %{_libdir} now?  However, that >> > would mean that the

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 20:42, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le Lun 20 février 2012 18:50, Kay Sievers a écrit : >> On Feb 20, 2012 6:25 PM, "Toshio Kuratomi" wrote: > >> Udev rules and systemd units belong to the installed daemon. This daemon >> can only exist exactly one single time, and never be

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Lun 20 février 2012 18:50, Kay Sievers a écrit : > On Feb 20, 2012 6:25 PM, "Toshio Kuratomi" wrote: > Udev rules and systemd units belong to the installed daemon. This daemon > can only exist exactly one single time, and never be installed by multilib > packages, hence they do not ever belon

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Lun 20 février 2012 18:18, Nils Philippsen a écrit : > On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 13:51 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> This isn't really a "new" exception for me. There's a ton of files >> that >> are not strictly arch dependent in bin, lib, libexec. Shell scripts, >> Python scripts, udev rules

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:30:11PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 20.02.12 09:25, Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 01:02:11PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > On Fri, 17.02.12 10:46, Nathaniel McCallum (nathan...@natemccallum.com) > > > w

Re: rawhide/F17 broken dependencies: please stop spamming

2012-02-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:09 +0100, KK (Kevin) wrote: > Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > The package can still be brought back, but now requires a review. > > This is really silly, why can't we just unretire the 2 or 3 packages which > were noticed the day they were retired and got an interested maintain

[Bug 785732] Upgrade to new upstream version

2012-02-20 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 785732] Upgrade to new upstream version

2012-02-20 Thread bugzilla
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Re: F16 Linux 3.1 soft lockups

2012-02-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/2/20 Dave Jones : > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:39:54PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >  > Hi, >  > >  > W dniu 7 stycznia 2012 16:34 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski >  > napisał: >  > > Hi, >  > > >  > > I've noticed some strange soft lockup behaviour on my system (please >  > > see the attach

Re: rawhide/F17 broken dependencies: please stop spamming

2012-02-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 02/20/2012 11:39 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> The package can still be brought back, but now requires a review. > > This is really silly, why can't we just unretire the 2 or 3 packages which > were noticed the day they were retired and got an interested maintainer now?

Re: rawhide/F17 broken dependencies: please stop spamming

2012-02-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bruno Wolff III wrote: > The package can still be brought back, but now requires a review. This is really silly, why can't we just unretire the 2 or 3 packages which were noticed the day they were retired and got an interested maintainer now? (iwidgets was one of them, but I've seen mails about

Re: F16 Linux 3.1 soft lockups

2012-02-20 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:39:54PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > > W dniu 7 stycznia 2012 16:34 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski > napisał: > > Hi, > > > > I've noticed some strange soft lockup behaviour on my system (please > > see the attachment). Soft lockup appears to be caused

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Kay Sievers
On Feb 20, 2012 6:25 PM, "Toshio Kuratomi" wrote: > This sounds like the unit files belong in %{_libdir} now? However, that > would mean that they can't go into noarch packages. So we probably need to > know a little more about just how architecture dependent these unit files > can be. There i

Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120212 changes

2012-02-20 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 17:36 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 11:29 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > > Is this still failing to compose and/or is there a bug to follow that > > might be covering this until it's fixed? > > In meantime if it helps, we got boot.iso in > http://dl

Re: F16 Linux 3.1 soft lockups

2012-02-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, W dniu 7 stycznia 2012 16:34 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski napisał: > Hi, > > I've noticed some strange soft lockup behaviour on my system (please > see the attachment). Soft lockup appears to be caused by kswapd0 > process. It seems to me that in both cases this error occured when I > used "g

Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120212 changes

2012-02-20 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 11:29 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 11:49 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 11:46 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 11:25 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 10:08 +, Branched Report wro

Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120212 changes

2012-02-20 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 11:49 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 11:46 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 11:25 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 10:08 +, Branched Report wrote: > > > > Compose started at Sun Feb 12 08:15:07 UTC 2012 > > >

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 20.02.12 09:25, Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 01:02:11PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Fri, 17.02.12 10:46, Nathaniel McCallum (nathan...@natemccallum.com) > > wrote: > > > > > I'm a fan of systemd [1]. And although I didn't like the fact

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 01:02:11PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Fri, 17.02.12 10:46, Nathaniel McCallum (nathan...@natemccallum.com) wrote: > > > I'm a fan of systemd [1]. And although I didn't like the fact that unit > > files were stored in /lib, I understood the rationale since there w

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 13:51 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > This isn't really a "new" exception for me. There's a ton of files > that > are not strictly arch dependent in bin, lib, libexec. Shell scripts, > Python scripts, udev rules, pkg-config files, a ton of rpm files, LSB > symlinks, Java fi

File MooseX-MethodAttributes-0.27.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2012-02-20 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-MooseX-MethodAttributes: bd8c1e4e97cad114dc98cc505cd1ae37 MooseX-MethodAttributes-0.27.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin

[perl-HTML-FormHandler/f17] update to 0.36003

2012-02-20 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: f76910d... update to 0.36003 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/m

[perl-HTML-FormHandler] update to 0.36003

2012-02-20 Thread Iain Arnell
commit f76910de1142086398dfcf399e50a06ef062842a Author: Iain Arnell Date: Mon Feb 20 09:32:18 2012 -0700 update to 0.36003 .gitignore |1 + perl-HTML-FormHandler.spec |5 - sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) -

Re: rawhide/F17 broken dependencies: please stop spamming

2012-02-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 16:56:28 +0100, Patrick Monnerat wrote: > On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 13:01 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > *You* could have avoided this by _retiring_ "insight" properly: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life > > *** This is not a norm

Re: rawhide/F17 broken dependencies: please stop spamming

2012-02-20 Thread Patrick Monnerat
On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 13:01 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > *You* could have avoided this by _retiring_ "insight" properly: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life *** This is not a normal end of life: this is an assassination *** There's a maintainer (krege) who'

Fedora 17 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting, Wednesday, February 22 @ 17:00 EST

2012-02-20 Thread Robyn Bergeron
Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting for this important meeting, wherein we shall determine the readiness of the Alpha taste-testing of the Beefy Miracle, better known as Fedora 17. Wednesday, February 22, 2011 @22:00 UTC (17:00 EST/14:00 PST) "Before each public release Development,

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 13:51, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 20.02.12 13:32, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mail...@laposte.net) wrote: >> Le Lun 20 février 2012 13:02, Lennart Poettering a écrit : >> >> > Something similar applies to udev rules and similar "almost code" bits. >> > >> > But yeah,

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 20.2.2012 13:51, Lennart Poettering napsal(a): On Mon, 20.02.12 13:32, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mail...@laposte.net) wrote: Le Lun 20 février 2012 13:02, Lennart Poettering a écrit : Something similar applies to udev rules and similar "almost code" bits. But yeah, I know people will disa

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 20.02.12 13:32, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mail...@laposte.net) wrote: > > Le Lun 20 février 2012 13:02, Lennart Poettering a écrit : > > > Something similar applies to udev rules and similar "almost code" bits. > > > > But yeah, I know people will disagree with us on this. > > Lennart ,

[Bug 795117] perl-LWP-Protocol-https-6.03 is available

2012-02-20 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=795117 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Lun 20 février 2012 13:02, Lennart Poettering a écrit : > Something similar applies to udev rules and similar "almost code" bits. > > But yeah, I know people will disagree with us on this. Lennart , you realise, do you, that people are unlikely to fix the historical exceptions they've benefit

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 17.02.12 10:46, Nathaniel McCallum (nathan...@natemccallum.com) wrote: > I'm a fan of systemd [1]. And although I didn't like the fact that unit > files were stored in /lib, I understood the rationale since there was no > /share. However, I've just recently discovered [2] that after UsrMov

Re: rawhide/F17 broken dependencies: please stop spamming

2012-02-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:23:53 +0100, PM (Patrick) wrote: > > Since packages belonging to maintainer that have not changed their > password have been removed, I keep being notified about a broken > dependency in package "insight", depending on "iwidgets". > > "iwidgets" has been deprecated and thu

Re: Bundling?!

2012-02-20 Thread Alec Leamas
Thanks all for a remarkable set of advice including what not to do (Petr M), a hint about what to do (Ralf E) and another hint how it could be done (Aleksandra B). I have been able to update the packaging to only bundle the boost tools subdirectory. I presume that this should make everyone h

File HTTP-Negotiate-6.01.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2012-02-20 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-HTTP-Negotiate: 1236195250e264d7436e7bb02031671b HTTP-Negotiate-6.01.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 795114] perl-HTTP-Daemon-6.01 is available

2012-02-20 Thread bugzilla
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F-17 Branched report: 20120220 changes

2012-02-20 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Mon Feb 20 08:15:08 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [HippoDraw] HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.i686 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.x86_64 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-

rawhide/F17 broken dependencies: please stop spamming

2012-02-20 Thread Patrick Monnerat
Since packages belonging to maintainer that have not changed their password have been removed, I keep being notified about a broken dependency in package "insight", depending on "iwidgets". "iwidgets" has been deprecated and thus, as long as this situation remains, "insight" will be broken. Cons

Re : Self introduction

2012-02-20 Thread Jean-Eudes ONFRAY
> I'd also like to see OpenCPN packaged in Fedora: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=612224 > I'm part of the upstream team and I already build Fedora packages there. > Seeing it included in Fedora would be much easier for our users. I'll > prepare updated spec & srpm and report asap.

Re: Bundling?!

2012-02-20 Thread Petr Machata
Ralf Ertzinger writes: > Hi. > > On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:26:20 +0100, Petr Machata wrote > >> Please don't do this. >> >> The main reason being that header code from bundled boost is in >> general not binary compatible with the native code from system >> boost. It might maybe happen to work, but

Re: JPEG_LIB_VERSION in libjpeg-turbo

2012-02-20 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 09:46:56PM +0100, Julian Sikorski wrote: > Dear fellow Fedora packagers > > I was trying to get MAME [1] to use system libjpeg [2]. The problem is > that MAME needs jpeg_mem_src, which is only defined if libjpeg-turbo > compiled with --with-jpeg8 switch, which is not the ca