[Test-Announce] 2012-02-17 @ 17:00 UTC - F17 Alpha Blocker Bug Review #4

# F17 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #4 # Date: 2012-02-17 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (12:00 EST, 09:00 PST) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net The fourth F17 alpha blocker bug review meeting will be this Friday at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers. We'll be running through the final blocke

Re: Please create Fedora 17 in Bugzilla

On 02/16/2012 01:11 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Ian Pilcher (arequip...@gmail.com) said: >> Anaconda in Fedora 17 Alpha RC2 cannot upload tracebacks to Bugzilla, >> because Bugzilla doesn't think Fedora 17 exists. > > Done. > Thank you! --

Re: Please create Fedora 17 in Bugzilla

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 03:49:44PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 15:41 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > This is why it always turns into a dance - lots of people know it needs > > to be done, but few of us actually have the power and know how the hell > > to _do_ it. >

Re: Please create Fedora 17 in Bugzilla

On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 15:41 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > This is why it always turns into a dance - lots of people know it needs > to be done, but few of us actually have the power and know how the hell > to _do_ it. I see from this SOP: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life_SOP#Bugzilla

Re: F17 Slowness

On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 16:38 -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 15:16 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 14:40:53 -0500, > > David Malcolm wrote: > > > On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 12:06 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:44:45AM -0600, Mi

Re: Please create Fedora 17 in Bugzilla

On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 22:47 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Ian Pilcher (arequip...@gmail.com) said: > >> Anaconda in Fedora 17 Alpha RC2 cannot upload tracebacks to Bugzilla, > >> because Bugzilla doesn't think Fedora 17 exists. > > > > Done. > > > >> Is it carved into a

Re: Please create Fedora 17 in Bugzilla

On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 14:22 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) said: > > Ian Pilcher (arequip...@gmail.com) said: > > > Anaconda in Fedora 17 Alpha RC2 cannot upload tracebacks to Bugzilla, > > > because Bugzilla doesn't think Fedora 17 exists. > > > > Done. > >

Re: Minimal Install & Network Manager

On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 09:24 -0700, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > Hello, > >Not sure if this is a bug persay. However I've installed Alpha RC2, > and to speed up the install I requested 'Minimal', since the first > install had a grub issue. Second install worked fine, system boots up. > Howev

Re: F17 bootloader error

On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 08:30 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Feb 16, 2012, at 2:45 AM, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > I don't have a BIOS boot partition now on F16 and it had to be GPT when > > I first installed it. So what's the difference and do I *have* to have > > it on F17 because of a change? No

Re: F17 Slowness

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:38 PM, David Malcolm wrote: > My question was about "at runtime": my thinking was that it's useful to > spell out to the user that they shouldn't expect the final released > performance from the current system, perhaps adding a message somewhere > in the UI, so that certa

Re: Please create Fedora 17 in Bugzilla

Bill Nottingham wrote: > Ian Pilcher (arequip...@gmail.com) said: >> Anaconda in Fedora 17 Alpha RC2 cannot upload tracebacks to Bugzilla, >> because Bugzilla doesn't think Fedora 17 exists. > > Done. > >> Is it carved into a stone tablet somewhere that we have to do this >> dance for every relea

Re: F17 Slowness

On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 15:16 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 14:40:53 -0500, > David Malcolm wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 12:06 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:44:45AM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > > Just seeing if it's just me, or we bac

Re: F17 Slowness

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 14:40:53 -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 12:06 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:44:45AM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > Just seeing if it's just me, or we back to being slow again during > > > testing with the debug options a

Re: F17 Slowness

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:40 PM, David Malcolm wrote: > On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 12:06 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:44:45AM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: >>  > Just seeing if it's just me, or we back to being slow again during >>  > testing with the debug options and the kerne

Re: F17 Slowness

On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 12:06 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:44:45AM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > Just seeing if it's just me, or we back to being slow again during > > testing with the debug options and the kernel? Am on a F16 kernel and > > is little better than F17 3.

Re: Please create Fedora 17 in Bugzilla

Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) said: > Ian Pilcher (arequip...@gmail.com) said: > > Anaconda in Fedora 17 Alpha RC2 cannot upload tracebacks to Bugzilla, > > because Bugzilla doesn't think Fedora 17 exists. > > Done. > > > Is it carved into a stone tablet somewhere that we have to do this

[perl-Test-Fatal] Update to 0.010

commit 12457f78f46fe1dc8ca70ffb191540af6f9bf931 Author: Paul Howarth Date: Thu Feb 16 19:11:45 2012 + Update to 0.010 - New upstream release 0.010: - Avoid tickling an overloading bug in perl 5.6 during testing (CPAN RT#74847) perl-Test-Fatal.spec |7 ++-

Re: Please create Fedora 17 in Bugzilla

Ian Pilcher (arequip...@gmail.com) said: > Anaconda in Fedora 17 Alpha RC2 cannot upload tracebacks to Bugzilla, > because Bugzilla doesn't think Fedora 17 exists. Done. > Is it carved into a stone tablet somewhere that we have to do this > dance for every release? It should be in a SOP somewhe

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Re: service iptables save, systemctl, and unhelpful error messages

Matej Cepl (mc...@redhat.com) said: > On 16.2.2012 18:09, Bill Nottingham wrote: > >Note, in this case, I'm referring to "/etc/init.d/foo make-me-a-sandwich," > >or "service foo make-me-a-sandwich". systemctl doesn't bother with this. > > Awesome, I didn't know it (I am currently not on Fedora fo

Please create Fedora 17 in Bugzilla

Anaconda in Fedora 17 Alpha RC2 cannot upload tracebacks to Bugzilla, because Bugzilla doesn't think Fedora 17 exists. Is it carved into a stone tablet somewhere that we have to do this dance for every release? -- Ian Pilch

Thunderbird/Lightening as Calendar

Hello, Just curious, when assigning the default applications I can select other browsers, email clients etc, but only evolution for the calendar. Is there something lightening doesn't do such that I can't select it as the calendar app?? -- Nathanael d. Noblet t 403.875.4613 -- devel mailin

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

On 02/16/2012 05:33 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: complete -r if memory serves me correct then again I'm getting old and fragile... "set disable-completion on" into /etc/inputrc or ~/.inputr to disable it across logout/reboots JBG -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F17 Slowness

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Dave Jones wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:44:45AM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: >  > Just seeing if it's just me, or we back to being slow again during >  > testing with the debug options and the kernel?  Am on a F16 kernel and >  > is little better than F17 3.

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

On 02/16/2012 05:26 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: Is there a way to disable this. Basically i don't want any bash completion to use the network. complete -r if memory serves me correct then again I'm getting old and fragile... JBG -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admi

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/2012 09:59 AM, John5342 wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 03:34, Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: >> A bad autocomplete can cause you to sit 3-4 minutes as DNS or >> other things time out. > > Ctrl+C will cancel the command and the completion wi

Re: F17 Slowness

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/2012 12:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 10:44 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: >> Just seeing if it's just me, or we back to being slow again >> during testing with the debug options and the kernel? Am on a >> F16 kernel and

Re: F17 Slowness

On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 10:44 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > Just seeing if it's just me, or we back to being slow again during > testing with the debug options and the kernel? Am on a F16 kernel and > is little better than F17 3.3 kernels. 'back'? Debug-enabled kernels have been extremely slow sinc

Re: service iptables save, systemctl, and unhelpful error messages

On 16.2.2012 18:09, Bill Nottingham wrote: Note, in this case, I'm referring to "/etc/init.d/foo make-me-a-sandwich," or "service foo make-me-a-sandwich". systemctl doesn't bother with this. Awesome, I didn't know it (I am currently not on Fedora for a moment). So why some people were reportin

Re: service iptables save, systemctl, and unhelpful error messages

Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) said: > Matej Cepl (mc...@redhat.com) said: > > On 16.2.2012 10:35, Reindl Harald wrote: > > >if "iptables.service" exists anything under /etc/init.d/ is ignored > > >service is redirecting to systemctl > > > > Yes, that's a bug in systemctl which I thought w

Re: /usrmove and path ordering

> "SS" == Simo Sorce writes: SS> I guess it is time to change habits, what's the point of a separate SS> /usr these days ? I also always configured a separate /usr until I decided to obey systemd's complaints about it being broken (though of course I never had any issue at all with it). For

Re: service iptables save, systemctl, and unhelpful error messages

Am 16.02.2012 18:02, schrieb Matej Cepl: > On 16.2.2012 10:35, Reindl Harald wrote: >> if "iptables.service" exists anything under /etc/init.d/ is ignored >> service is redirecting to systemctl > > Yes, that's a bug in systemctl which I thought we are discussing here. how can this be a bug? th

Re: Apple will use LLVM

On 02/16/2012 10:37 AM, Dave Jones wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:22:03AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 02/16/2012 10:08 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > >Not to mention that the kernel devs use gcc to compile the kernel - > > and it most certainly puts a lot of pressure on t

Re: service iptables save, systemctl, and unhelpful error messages

Matej Cepl (mc...@redhat.com) said: > On 16.2.2012 10:35, Reindl Harald wrote: > >if "iptables.service" exists anything under /etc/init.d/ is ignored > >service is redirecting to systemctl > > Yes, that's a bug in systemctl which I thought we are discussing here. It redirects for the common verb

Re: F17 Slowness

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:44:45AM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > Just seeing if it's just me, or we back to being slow again during > testing with the debug options and the kernel? Am on a F16 kernel and > is little better than F17 3.3 kernels. the first -rc build of each kernel release has de

Re: Apple will use LLVM

On 02/15/2012 11:52 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Not quite. LLVM can be used to build the kernel No, that is simply not true. Factually incorrect. I have been working on building the kernel with LLVM, with many changes submitted (merged over a year ago), but LLVM still needs several obscure c

Re: Apple will use LLVM

On 02/16/2012 11:08 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Vladimir Makarov wrote: GCC has a big community of very dedicated people. LLVM has no such community. So IMHO GCC will be more high quality compiler than LLVM until LLVM gets such community. That can't be expec

Re: service iptables save, systemctl, and unhelpful error messages

On 16.2.2012 10:35, Reindl Harald wrote: if "iptables.service" exists anything under /etc/init.d/ is ignored service is redirecting to systemctl Yes, that's a bug in systemctl which I thought we are discussing here. Matěj -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedor

Re: /usrmove and path ordering

Simo Sorce wrote: > On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 13:22 +0100, Jim Meyering wrote: ... >> Prior to F17, I've always put /usr on a partition separate from /. >> >> $ df -hT / /usr >> Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on >> /dev/sda4 ext4 11G 7.3G 3.2G 70% / >> /dev

Re: Minimal Install & Network Manager

Nathanael D. Noblet (nathan...@gnat.ca) said: > Not sure if this is a bug persay. However I've installed Alpha > RC2, and to speed up the install I requested 'Minimal', since the > first install had a grub issue. Second install worked fine, system > boots up. However the network interface doesn'

F17 Slowness

Just seeing if it's just me, or we back to being slow again during testing with the debug options and the kernel? Am on a F16 kernel and is little better than F17 3.3 kernels. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ht

Re: Apple will use LLVM

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:12:06AM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > The another usual mistake when people compare speed of GCC and LLVM > > is to use -O2 for the both compilers. But the true is that -O1 of > > GCC is -O2 of LLVM with the point of code generation quality. The > > compiler speed o

Re: Apple will use LLVM

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Vladimir Makarov (vmaka...@redhat.com) said: >> >Since I was a bit (intentionally) curt and dismissive in my other >> >response in this thread, I'll add some anecdata here.  I have actually >> >tried building xserver with clang and running

Minimal Install & Network Manager

Hello, Not sure if this is a bug persay. However I've installed Alpha RC2, and to speed up the install I requested 'Minimal', since the first install had a grub issue. Second install worked fine, system boots up. However the network interface doesn't 'work' because the minimal install is wi

Re: Apple will use LLVM

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Vladimir Makarov > wrote: >> GCC has a big community of very dedicated people.  LLVM has no such >> community.  So IMHO GCC will be more high quality compiler than LLVM until >> LLVM gets such community.

Re: ceph in Rawhide and F17 broken?

Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: > renamed to gperftools > > But that's post-freeze, so gperftools hasn't been pushed stable; so now > gnome-perftools is 'dead' so won't be pulled into composes, but > gperftools is not pushed stable and *also* won't be pulled into > composes. > >

Re: Apple will use LLVM

Vladimir Makarov (vmaka...@redhat.com) said: > >Since I was a bit (intentionally) curt and dismissive in my other > >response in this thread, I'll add some anecdata here. I have actually > >tried building xserver with clang and running the standard set of > >microbenchmarks. I found one relevant

Re: Apple will use LLVM

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Vladimir Makarov wrote: > GCC has a big community of very dedicated people.  LLVM has no such > community.  So IMHO GCC will be more high quality compiler than LLVM until > LLVM gets such community. > That can't be expected to continue now that there are many emp

Re: Apple will use LLVM

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:22:03AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 02/16/2012 10:08 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > > Not to mention that the kernel devs use gcc to compile the kernel - > > and it most certainly puts a lot of pressure on the compiler. I suspect > > unless linus drops gcc a

Re: F17 bootloader error

On Feb 16, 2012, at 2:45 AM, Mike Chambers wrote: > I don't have a BIOS boot partition now on F16 and it had to be GPT when > I first installed it. So what's the difference and do I *have* to have > it on F17 because of a change? The exact same message happens on F16 with GPT disks using the cus

[389-devel] Please review: coverity uninit var and resource leak

From 31ecec728ada7c50e57c969342bb5a400a9b0c2b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Rich Megginson Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:14:43 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] coverity uninit var and resource leak 12550 Uninitialized pointer read In dna_update_config_event(): Reads an uninitialized pointer or its target 1

Re: Apple will use LLVM

On 02/16/2012 10:02 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 10:22 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 02/16/2012 10:08 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: Not to mention that the kernel devs use gcc to compile the kernel - and it most certainly puts a lot of pressure on the compiler. I suspect unl

Re: service iptables save, systemctl, and unhelpful error messages

On 02/16/2012 03:35 PM, Thomas Woerner wrote: I can not decide the way to go here. Also I can not change packaging guidelines. If I add the script to the package, I will get a message that this is not allowed. If the sole purpose of the script should be to print a hint telling the user what th

Re: Apple will use LLVM

On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 10:22 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 02/16/2012 10:08 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > > Not to mention that the kernel devs use gcc to compile the kernel - > > and it most certainly puts a lot of pressure on the compiler. I suspect > > unless linus drops gcc as well, we'l

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 03:34, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > A bad autocomplete can cause you to sit 3-4 minutes > as DNS or other things time out. Ctrl+C will cancel the command and the completion with it. It's not ideal if you are typing a long command but it certainly avoids waiting 3-4 minute

Re: service iptables save, systemctl, and unhelpful error messages

On 02/16/2012 03:22 AM, Emanuel Rietveld wrote: On 02/16/2012 02:06 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 02/15/2012 11:09 PM, Emanuel Rietveld wrote: I propose the following script in /etc/init.d/iptables I propose you file a BUG against IPTABLES and put your proposal into that bug report

[perl-B-Hooks-EndOfScope] Update to 0.10

commit 054a1f8500dbf7511a4779ef2e3cc02878c76878 Author: Paul Howarth Date: Thu Feb 16 14:20:31 2012 + Update to 0.10 - New upstream release 0.10: - Stop propagating our magic through localisation - Package LICENSE file - Downgrade ExtUtils::MakeMaker version requi

Re: /usrmove and path ordering

On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 13:22 +0100, Jim Meyering wrote: > Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 15.02.2012 13:43, schrieb Martin Langhoff: > >> On Feb 15, 2012 6:16 AM, "Reindl Harald" >> > wrote: > >>> there is no single reason for a feature like /usrmove which > >>> in fact n

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

On 02/16/2012 08:12 AM, Steve Gordon wrote: - Original Message - From: "Steve Clark" To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:47:03 AM Subject: Re: /usrmove? -> about the future On 02/15/2012 10:34 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Wed, Feb 15,

[perl-Acme-Damn] Update to 0.05 and clean up spec file

commit 245b8d7667d9299b7d886530721fe5370c9d7a65 Author: Emmanuel Seyman Date: Thu Feb 16 14:24:32 2012 +0100 Update to 0.05 and clean up spec file .gitignore |1 + perl-Acme-Damn.spec | 26 +- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 11 insert

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Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

- Original Message - > From: "Steve Clark" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:47:03 AM > Subject: Re: /usrmove? -> about the future > > On 02/15/2012 10:34 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 07:23:24PM -0500, S

[perl-HTTP-Cookies] 6.01 bump

commit 9595dec8dacbd2bbd52fa309229af1338c36251b Author: Petr Písař Date: Thu Feb 16 13:31:59 2012 +0100 6.01 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-HTTP-Cookies.spec |7 +-- sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/.gi

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Re: /usrmove and path ordering

Am 16.02.2012 13:22, schrieb Jim Meyering: > Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 15.02.2012 13:43, schrieb Martin Langhoff: >>> On Feb 15, 2012 6:16 AM, "Reindl Harald" >> > wrote: there is no single reason for a feature like /usrmove which in fact nobody NEEDS at

Re: /usrmove and path ordering

Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 15.02.2012 13:43, schrieb Martin Langhoff: >> On Feb 15, 2012 6:16 AM, "Reindl Harald" > > wrote: >>> there is no single reason for a feature like /usrmove which >>> in fact nobody NEEDS at all and definitly not now to press >>> it into the n

Re: Apple will use LLVM

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:56:59AM +0100, Tomas Mraz wrote: > > It's very unfortunate that this high standard of requirements for > disruptive changes in Fedora wasn't properly applied to some of the > recent disruptive changes. Particularly the very recent unnamed > disruptive change in Fedora 1

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 06:47:03AM -0500, Steve Clark wrote: > On 02/15/2012 10:34 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 07:23:24PM -0500, Steve Clark wrote: > >You may have been working with them since the earliy nineties, but the > >feature was only introduced in 2.04 in 2000. Pro

Re: Apple will use LLVM

Rahul Sundaram writes: Considering the recent changes that Apple has been making to CUPS, I think it is more than a pure technical choice. That's very obvious. Apple does not like GPL. pgpShpX5VBeIf.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https:/

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 07:23:24PM -0500, Steve Clark wrote: >> On 02/15/2012 05:19 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> >I use bash completion all the time every single day - I guess I have >> >become a corner case! >> > >> No you haven't. All the developers I have worked with since

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

On 02/15/2012 10:34 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 07:23:24PM -0500, Steve Clark wrote: On 02/15/2012 05:19 PM, mike cloaked wrote: I use bash completion all the time every single day - I guess I have become a corner case! No you haven't. All the developers I have worked w

Re: Apple will use LLVM

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Karel Zak wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 01:22:51AM +0100, jonathan wrote: >> Apple move step by step to LLVM and stop to use gcc. The latest apple >> IDE (Xcode) will not ship gcc but llvm. >> https://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html >> >>

F-17 Branched report: 20120216 changes

Compose started at Thu Feb 16 08:15:13 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [HippoDraw] HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.i686 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.x86_64 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-

Re: Apple will use LLVM

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 01:22:51AM +0100, jonathan wrote: > Apple move step by step to LLVM and stop to use gcc. The latest apple > IDE (Xcode) will not ship gcc but llvm. > https://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html > > It will be great to know if llvm is ready to do same for s

Re: Apple will use LLVM

On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 10:22 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 02/16/2012 10:08 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > > Not to mention that the kernel devs use gcc to compile the kernel - > > and it most certainly puts a lot of pressure on the compiler. I suspect > > unless linus drops gcc as well, we'

Re: Apple will use LLVM

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/2012 01:22 AM, jonathan wrote: > Apple move step by step to LLVM and stop to use gcc. The latest > apple IDE (Xcode) will not ship gcc but llvm. > https://developer.apple.com/technologies/tools/whats-new.html > > It will be great to know if

Re: F17 bootloader error

On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 17:51 -0600, David Lehman wrote: > On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 11:41 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > When trying to do test install against F17Alpha TC2, during partition > > layout, I get error below... > > > > "you have not created a bootloader stage1 target device" > > > > I ha

Re: service iptables save, systemctl, and unhelpful error messages

Am 16.02.2012 09:29, schrieb Matej Cepl: > On 16.2.2012 00:12, Reindl Harald wrote: >> this will not work since if a systemd-unit is present >> systemd no longer is interested in anything from >> /etc/init.d/ > > Isn't this missing the point ... we are not here talking about using service > as

Re: PCRE 8.30 will break API

2012/2/13 Petr Pisar : > Currently there is 17 packages linked against the old PCRE: > > monotone Fixed in monotone-1.0-7.fc18. - Thomas -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: service iptables save, systemctl, and unhelpful error messages

On 2012-02-15, Reindl Harald wrote: > thats right, but if you have any error in your rules you get > a problem because in the worst no firewall at all is active > > dooing it with a shell-script results only in failing one > rule with a error-message and apply the other ones, timing > is usually n

Re: service iptables save, systemctl, and unhelpful error messages

On 16.2.2012 00:12, Reindl Harald wrote: this will not work since if a systemd-unit is present systemd no longer is interested in anything from /etc/init.d/ Isn't this missing the point ... we are not here talking about using service as an equivalent of systemd-unit, but using it as direct co