Re: Architectures supported by LSB, fedora, ubuntu and kvm

2012-02-14 Thread Xibo Ning
Hello, I adjusted the volumn names to reduce the line length. Now the line length is less than 80. So it's suit to browse in terminal. And also add two architecures: s390 and s390x. - Original Message - From: "Xibo Ning" To: "fedora-devel" Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:13:43 AM Sub

Re: /usrmove and path ordering

2012-02-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Lennart Poettering wrote: > Because dropping these dirs from the search paths is merely an > optimization, not a requirement. You call it an "optimization", I call it fixing a pessimization (performance regression). And as the original message in the thread points out, the regression actually a

Re: Heads up: F17 Alpha RC1 arriving ahead of schedule

2012-02-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Kofler wrote: > Ugh, we really want this one: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/beefy-miracle-kde- theme-16.91.0.1-1.fc17,kde-settings-4.8-5.fc17 > in! :-( > > Without it, Plasma has a blank (all black) background. (Proposed) blocker bug filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.c

Re: Heads up: F17 Alpha RC1 arriving ahead of schedule

2012-02-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > Hey, folks. So it turns out all currently identified Alpha blockers are > addressed, so I went ahead and filed a request for Alpha RC1 rather than > TC3: > > https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5083 > > this is two days ahead of schedule, but it's good to get going ea

Re: /usrmove and path ordering

2012-02-14 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 14.02.12 23:08, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: > Ondrej Vasik wrote: > > You are right, setup update fixed only /sbin locations... /bin has to be > > done on glibc and shells side. Sorry for confusion... > > WHY was UsrMove allowed to be merged in such broken and incomplete

Re: /usrmove and path ordering

2012-02-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ondrej Vasik wrote: > You are right, setup update fixed only /sbin locations... /bin has to be > done on glibc and shells side. Sorry for confusion... WHY was UsrMove allowed to be merged in such broken and incomplete state? Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.o

Heads up: F17 Alpha RC1 arriving ahead of schedule

2012-02-14 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, folks. So it turns out all currently identified Alpha blockers are addressed, so I went ahead and filed a request for Alpha RC1 rather than TC3: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5083 this is two days ahead of schedule, but it's good to get going early! The compose should arrive some t

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

2012-02-14 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/14/2012 10:23 AM, Alfredo Ferrari wrote: Do the systemd maintainers ever read bug reports BTW? Why do you think otherwise? Not only read them but fix them as well. To give you some stats There are currently 96 Open bugs against systemd and 536 that have been closed at the time of thi

Re: Fedora 17 Mass branching

2012-02-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 12:59 -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > What's the policy to get a bugfix to Alpha? It should be the case now that 17 is frozen and only blocker/NTH fixes can land; I don't know if releng has actually implemented that at this time, but AIUI that's where we should be. So that'

[Bug 789784] Provide native systemd service

2012-02-14 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789784 --- Comment #6 from Richard W.M. Jones 2012-02-14 12:25:05 EST --- Please do. Cuts out the middleman. -- Configure bugmail:

Re: Fedora 17 Mass branching

2012-02-14 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
What's the policy to get a bugfix to Alpha? Jaroslav - Original Message - > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 23:45:32 -0600 > Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > We have completed mass branching for Fedora 17 you now need make > > sure > > that you build t

Re: Is there a way to passphrase protect my koji cert?

2012-02-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:38:29 -0500, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: > > When I subsequently ran a koji administrative command, I got to enter my > passphrase a few times (and for some reason, while 'pkcs8' will accept > something fewer than four characters long for a new passphrase, that > requireme

Re: Is there a way to passphrase protect my koji cert?

2012-02-14 Thread Nalin Dahyabhai
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 09:33:31AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > While replacing my koji cert yesterday I was interested in adding a > passphrase to slow down exploitation if my home desktop got compromised. > I've look through some of the documentation for maintainers and I haven't > seen any in

[Bug 789784] Provide native systemd service

2012-02-14 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789784 --- Comment #7 from Jon Ciesla 2012-02-14 12:35:53 EST --- Will do. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userpre

Re: /usrmove and path ordering

2012-02-14 Thread Ondrej Vasik
- Original Message - > On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 17:11 +0100, Ondrej Vasik wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 17:08 +0100, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Dear developers, > > > > > > Now that the /usrmove changes have landed i

[Bug 789784] Provide native systemd service

2012-02-14 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789784 --- Comment #5 from Jóhann B. Guðmundsson 2012-02-14 12:23:49 EST --- Yup according to commit 2 you just had left the irc yeste

Re: /usrmove and path ordering

2012-02-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 17:33 +0100, Tomas Mraz wrote: > On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 17:11 +0100, Ondrej Vasik wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 17:08 +0100, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Dear developers, > > > > > > Now that the /usrm

[Bug 789784] Provide native systemd service

2012-02-14 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789784 Jon Ciesla changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: Fedora 17 Mass branching

2012-02-14 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 23:45:32 -0600 Dennis Gilmore wrote: > We have completed mass branching for Fedora 17 you now need make sure > that you build things for Fedora 17 from the f17 branch, master is now > for Fedora 18. > > http://fedoraproject.org/w

Re: /usrmove and path ordering

2012-02-14 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 17:11 +0100, Ondrej Vasik wrote: > On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 17:08 +0100, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Dear developers, > > > > Now that the /usrmove changes have landed in the F-17 branch, should > > the ordering o

Re: /usrmove and path ordering

2012-02-14 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/14/2012 05:11 PM, Ondrej Vasik wrote: > On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 17:08 +0100, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> Dear developers, >> >> Now that the /usrmove changes have landed in the F-17 branch,

Re: /usrmove and path ordering

2012-02-14 Thread Ondrej Vasik
On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 17:08 +0100, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dear developers, > > Now that the /usrmove changes have landed in the F-17 branch, should > the ordering of directories in PATH be changed? /usr/bin should appear > before /bin a

/usrmove and path ordering

2012-02-14 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear developers, Now that the /usrmove changes have landed in the F-17 branch, should the ordering of directories in PATH be changed? /usr/bin should appear before /bin and /usr/sbin before /sbin. Right now $(which a-binary) would report that all /us

Is there a way to passphrase protect my koji cert?

2012-02-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
While replacing my koji cert yesterday I was interested in adding a passphrase to slow down exploitation if my home desktop got compromised. I've look through some of the documentation for maintainers and I haven't seen any instructions on how to protect it with a passphrase. Is this possible? (In

Re: New ETL version needed for synfig update

2012-02-14 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > On Mon 13 Feb 2012 04:55:03 AM PST, Jon Ciesla wrote: >> >> >> Have you filed a bug against that package to alert the maintainer? >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com >> >> If not, that would be a great first step. >> > > Done. https://bugzilla

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

2012-02-14 Thread Michal Schmidt
Alfredo Ferrari wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753339 > > ... and "reboot" is still not working on Fedora 16 on several > machines... It's not obvious whether systemd is to blame for this bug. > do the systemd maintainers ever read bug reports BTW? Of course. You have comm

Re: Linux Questions Desktop Environment of the Year - interesting result

2012-02-14 Thread drago01
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > I'm going to reply to both in one go here: > > > drago01 wrote: > >>> Why must a desktop resemble the windows 95 UI paradigm? > > Because that is what all current computer users are used to! And an > "inconvenient" fact often ignored in usabil

Re: Linux Questions Desktop Environment of the Year - interesting result

2012-02-14 Thread FRank Murphy
On 14/02/12 11:05, Camilo Mesias wrote: Is there a smolt-like solution that wouldn't be unpalatable to many? It would surely be better than relying on out-of date and questionable polls. I'd be happy to be counted as using Gnome shell on several systems. -Cam How would you gauge it, Smolt cur

Re: Linux Questions Desktop Environment of the Year - interesting result

2012-02-14 Thread Camilo Mesias
I wonder if there is a way to accurately gauge hours spent using one DE or another. I've only ever used Gnome although I tried KDE briefly (at least one major release ago) and tried other distros Suse and Ubuntu, but only when Fedora was unstable on my hardware. I blogged a few 'gotchas' with Gnome

[Bug 787216] perl-Module-Build in el6

2012-02-14 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=787216 massimo.pala...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added --

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

2012-02-14 Thread Alfredo Ferrari
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753339 ... with clean install and on Fedora 16, two duifferent machines ++ | Alfredo Ferrari || Tel.: +41.22.767.6119 | | C.E.R.N.

[perl-Class-Load] Created tag perl-Class-Load-0.17-1.fc16

2012-02-14 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Class-Load-0.17-1.fc16' was created pointing to: 1e3ce9f... Update to 0.17 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

2012-02-14 Thread Alfredo Ferrari
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753339 ... and "reboot" is still not working on Fedora 16 on several machines... do the systemd maintainers ever read bug reports BTW? ++ | Alfredo Ferrari

[perl-Class-Load/f16] (5 commits) ...Update to 0.17

2012-02-14 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 3d5001f... Update to 0.13 (*) de11424... Fedora 17 mass rebuild (*) 7fba86a... Update to 0.14 (*) f808bda... Update to 0.15 (*) 1e3ce9f... Update to 0.17 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www

Re: Linux Questions Desktop Environment of the Year - interesting result

2012-02-14 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > Doesn't matter. The question is whether there is a change in trend. It's > improbable that KDE adoption is increasing in statistically significant > numbers, while at the same time KDE spin downloads remain flat, just because > people can