On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 05:45 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 02/09/2012 11:06 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
> >> - management, whom seems to be driven by a "must have at any price, no
> >> point
> >> of return ever" policy.
> >
> > I'm not sure who you're referring to as "management" here
> Everybody
On 02/09/2012 11:06 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
IMO, Fedora has obvious problems with its
- work-flow (Too immature SW migrates/sneaks through from Alpha/Beta to
Final)
If you feel this is the case, feel free to help improve the work-flow,
**IMPORTANT**: There were different versions of the TC2 install and live
images which were overwritten prior to this announcement. I also briefly
posted delta ISOs for some of these old images. Please make sure that
the images you are using correspond to the currently posted checksum files.
As per
Am 10.02.2012 01:03, schrieb Kevin Kofler:
> Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> It dlopen's the package so there is no automatic dependency. To make
>> up for this it requires pcre-devel, but in the light of this soname
>> change that might be a bug.
>
> It is against the guidelines to require a devel
Matthew Garrett wrote:
> So, just to be clear, you're saying that even if usrmove had landed in
> an entirely perfect and complete form the day after F16 branched, it
> should still have been rejected?
Yes, I'm arguing that the "feature" is undesirable by design and should not
have been approved,
Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> It dlopen's the package so there is no automatic dependency. To make
> up for this it requires pcre-devel, but in the light of this soname
> change that might be a bug.
It is against the guidelines to require a devel package. Instead, the
software MUST be patched to d
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> Once packages have been blocked the procedure is to require a review
> similar to getting a new package into Fedora.
There really needs to be a grace period there. Some problems, such as
dependencies broken by the removal, will only get noticed after the package
is retir
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> IMO, Fedora has obvious problems with its
> - work-flow (Too immature SW migrates/sneaks through from Alpha/Beta to
> Final)
If you feel this is the case, feel free to help improve the work-flow,
or at a minimum help write better Alpha/Beta
On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 16:52 +, Petr Pisar wrote:
> It's long time since PCRE (Perl-Compatible Regular Expression) library
> has changed API or ABI. Version 8.30 is different. Besides UTF-16
> support, the incompatible changes are described by upstream with these
> words:
>
> . The pcre_info()
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 16:52:57 + (UTC)
Petr Pisar wrote:
> (2) Reverse dependencies will be rebuilt against this new library.
> x86_64 repository returns 109 packages:
...
> proftpd
I've done the proftpd rebuild.
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> "PP" == Petr Pisar writes:
PP> zoneminder
Went ahead and rebuilt it now as I intend to be working on it tomorrow.
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The lightweight tag 'perl-Class-Load-0.15-1.fc17' was created pointing to:
f808bda... Update to 0.15
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(https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5021) so I will send out the
message as soon as that is approved. The goal is to finish this before
f17 branches from rawhide.
Unfortunately I have missed the above deadline but here is an update of
I have been upto:
Before the custom tag was created
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 04:52:57PM +, Petr Pisar wrote:
> ocaml-ocamlnet
ocaml-pcre
It dlopen's the package so there is no automatic dependency. To make
up for this it requires pcre-devel, but in the light of this soname
change that might be a bug.
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Le 09/02/2012 17:52, Petr Pisar a écrit :
> php
php 5.4.0RC7 won't build.
I know the fix have been commited,
http://svn.php.net/viewvc?view=revision&revision=323096
http://svn.php.net/viewvc?view=revision&revision=323097
so will be in 5.4.0 final, planned for February 16.
So, you can probab
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Petr Pisar wrote:
> On 2012-02-09, Jon Ciesla wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Petr Pisar wrote:
>>> Result is pcre library has changed SONAME from libpcre.so.0 to
>>> libpcre.so.1. Other librararies (pcrecpp, pcreposix) delivered with this
>>> package
On 2012-02-09, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Petr Pisar wrote:
>> Result is pcre library has changed SONAME from libpcre.so.0 to
>> libpcre.so.1. Other librararies (pcrecpp, pcreposix) delivered with this
>> package remain compatible.
>>
>> Because pcre library is part of m
On 02/09/2012 01:36 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
On 2/8/12 4:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
it is a very good idea because the overall quality of fedora would
be improved if there would be a larger release-blocking to get
the big changes fixed BEFORE alpha and in the meantime not involved
maintainers c
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Petr Pisar wrote:
> It's long time since PCRE (Perl-Compatible Regular Expression) library
> has changed API or ABI. Version 8.30 is different. Besides UTF-16
> support, the incompatible changes are described by upstream with these
> words:
>
> . The pcre_info() fu
It's long time since PCRE (Perl-Compatible Regular Expression) library
has changed API or ABI. Version 8.30 is different. Besides UTF-16
support, the incompatible changes are described by upstream with these
words:
. The pcre_info() function, which has been obsolete for over 10 years,
has been r
# F17 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #3
# Date: 2012-02-10
# Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (12:00 EST, 09:00 PST)
# Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net
The third F17 alpha blocker bug review meeting will be this Friday at
17:00 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers. We'll be running through the final
blocker
Summary of changes:
5d057f7... Update to 1.09 (*)
(*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent
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commit 5d057f735add9163b6d2f5f597b8748c908a0f90
Author: Paul Howarth
Date: Thu Feb 9 14:27:15 2012 +
Update to 1.09
- New upstream release 1.09
- Adds 'provides' method to generate a CPAN META provides data structure
correctly; use of package_versions_from
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Module-Metadata:
9669dd618585de6832368043bc8c59b5 Module-Metadata-1.09.tar.gz
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On 02/08/2012 07:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 09.02.2012 01:23, schrieb Adam Williamson:
The problem is that life is rarely so neat: you don't get an orderly succession
of Big Scary Bugs popping up one at a time for you to shoot down.
there are enough open bugs for the next ten years
...
i
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Peter Hutterer"
> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 2:50:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: Does the X server in Rawhide eat Control-Space?
- Original Message -
> From: "Peter Hutterer"
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 2:50:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Does the X server in Rawhide eat Control-Space?
>
> On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 12:10:36PM -0500, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
> > -
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 10:50:02PM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 12:10:36PM -0500, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Nicolas Mailhot"
> > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
> > >
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 201
On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 12:10:36PM -0500, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Nicolas Mailhot"
> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 7:05:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: Does the X server in Rawhide eat Control-Space
The lightweight tag 'perl-Module-Implementation-0.04-1.fc18' was created
pointing to:
f128b86... Update to 0.04
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On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 05:30:42PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=788632
>
> If you middle click on any scrolling window, then (even some time
> later) use the track pad two-finger thing to scroll down, the window
> will "jump up" as if PgUp has b
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 12:10:37PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 10:36 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > Continuing an annual tradition ...
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-August/141191.html
> >
> > For an F17 build I'm getting:
> >
> > $ fed
On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 10:36 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Continuing an annual tradition ...
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-August/141191.html
>
> For an F17 build I'm getting:
>
> $ fedpkg update
> [...].fc17 not tagged as an update candidate
>
> This was built in f
Dne 9.2.2012 11:36, Richard W.M. Jones napsal(a):
Continuing an annual tradition ...
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-August/141191.html
For an F17 build I'm getting:
$ fedpkg update
[...].fc17 not tagged as an update candidate
This was built in f17-candidate, which is not
Dne 9.2.2012 11:36, Richard W.M. Jones napsal(a):
Continuing an annual tradition ...
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-August/141191.html
For an F17 build I'm getting:
$ fedpkg update
[...].fc17 not tagged as an update candidate
This was built in f17-candidate, which is not
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Devel-PatchPerl:
7da4bd1f688e9ea3c5f369c264b16fd4 Devel-PatchPerl-0.66.tar.gz
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Continuing an annual tradition ...
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-August/141191.html
For an F17 build I'm getting:
$ fedpkg update
[...].fc17 not tagged as an update candidate
This was built in f17-candidate, which is not
'dist-f??-updates-candidate'. However I'm still no
On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 10:06 +0100, drago01 wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Tomas Mraz wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 04:24 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> >> On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 02:14:53AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >>
> >> > IMHO, FESCo needs to accept that sometimes they make a
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Tomas Mraz wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 04:24 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 02:14:53AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>>
>> > IMHO, FESCo needs to accept that sometimes they make a mistake (especially
>> > if the vote was disputed to begin w
On 08/02/12 01:08, David wrote:
1) Will /usrmove already be 'done' in the Fedora 17 test ISO's?
1:
It's already done on the Nightlies, so my guess is LiveCD will be fine
for installs.
2) Will Rawhide have a simple 'do this step-by-step' for the already
existing Rawhide /usr/move?
dvd\boo
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