On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:11:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>
>> Well, 20 mins inactivity sounds about 'right', as in, it matches my
>> experience. seems like a very short timeout, but maybe it's appropriate.
>>
> We've asked for feed
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 03:23:55PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>
> Besides this, one may have the opinion, that no binaries should be
> allowed in /usr/lib/. Fedora never enforced this rule, because RH has a
> tradition of being sloppy wrt. /usr/lib/.
One may also have the opinion that you voi
On 10/26/2011 05:27 PM, Tom Hughes wrote:
> Many CMS systems and the like work in that way. It's also what things
> like stackoverflow do, for example:
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7901782/war-does-not-start-on-tomcat5-on-redhat-enterprise-server
>
> where only the question number rea
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 07:17:10PM -0400, Luke Macken wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 03:04:12PM -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > Or perhaps even:
> > >
> > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA--N/package1-1.1.fc16,
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 03:04:12PM -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Or perhaps even:
> >
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA--N/package1-1.1.fc16,package2-1.1.fc16
> >
> > where anything after the FEDORA--N do
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:58:30PM +0100, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote:
> On 19:58 Wed 26 Oct , Heiko Adams wrote:
> > Am 26.10.2011 19:06, schrieb Jared K. Smith:
> > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Heiko Adams
> > > wrote:
> > >> is it just me or is java-1.7.0-openjdk breaking LibreOffic
On 10/26/2011 06:58 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote:
> On 19:58 Wed 26 Oct , Heiko Adams wrote:
>> Am 26.10.2011 19:06, schrieb Jared K. Smith:
>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Heiko Adams
>>> wrote:
is it just me or is java-1.7.0-openjdk breaking LibreOffice java
detection?
>>
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 23:58 +0100, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote:
> On 19:58 Wed 26 Oct , Heiko Adams wrote:
> > Am 26.10.2011 19:06, schrieb Jared K. Smith:
> > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Heiko Adams
> > > wrote:
> > >> is it just me or is java-1.7.0-openjdk breaking LibreOffice java
On 19:58 Wed 26 Oct , Heiko Adams wrote:
> Am 26.10.2011 19:06, schrieb Jared K. Smith:
> > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Heiko Adams
> > wrote:
> >> is it just me or is java-1.7.0-openjdk breaking LibreOffice java
> >> detection?
> >
> > Sounds like it might be related to bug 748585.
>
Hey, folks. This mail brought to you by my ever-increasing empty liquor
bottle collection and ever-receding hairline.
We unfortunately still have open blockers today, which means we will
likely do a TC3 compose tonight instead of RC1. The remaining
unaddressed blockers are:
1. https://bugzilla.re
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Or perhaps even:
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA--N/package1-1.1.fc16,package2-1.1.fc16
>
> where anything after the FEDORA--N doesn't matter, but could
> contain all the current packages in the update.
This
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> Next step: could you copy /lib/systemd/system/systemd-tmpfiles.service
> to /etc/systemd/system/ and prefix the ExecStart with "/usr/bin/strace
> -o /run/tmpfiles.strace", and then paste the output that generates in
> that file somewhere
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:40:41 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> With the compat symlinks, you even have no path problems anymore with
> any alien scripts you run.
I wouldn't say no path problems. I'm sure you know that symlinks can
cause traversal problems (e.g. the ".." doesn't take you where you
t
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:11:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 09:57 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:56:18PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 16:44 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > > > FAS and bodhi are single sign on
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 09:57 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:56:18PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 16:44 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > > FAS and bodhi are single sign on (iirc, everything on
> > > admin.fedoraproject.org).
> >
> > Well, Bodh
Or perhaps even:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA--N/package1-1.1.fc16,package2-1.1.fc16
where anything after the FEDORA--N doesn't matter, but could
contain all the current packages in the update.
kevin
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On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 15:40 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> On 10/24/2011 08:05 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> >> ===
> >> #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2011-10-24)
> >> ===
> >>* Discussion about https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove
>
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 13:45 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Really this is just a tooling question of whether it's overall more
> > convenient to have Bodhi use IDs and then implement convenience
> > scripts/tools wherever we refer to the updates which can identify them -
>
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Thomas Spura
wrote:
> Do you consider this an easy or a hard one: ;)
> espresso - Extensible Simulation Package for Research on Soft matter
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=740846
Molecular dynamics simulations! Wow, I suddenly flashed back to grad
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 09:18:55 -0600
Jerry James wrote:
> The first two should be dead easy. From Fedora's point of view,
> they're just data packages; no libraries or binaries are involved.
> The third one is a bit complex. I had to tweak a lot of pathnames to
> match existing Fedora practice, as
Am 26.10.2011 19:06, schrieb Jared K. Smith:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Heiko Adams
> wrote:
>> is it just me or is java-1.7.0-openjdk breaking LibreOffice java
>> detection?
>
> Sounds like it might be related to bug 748585.
>
That would explain why java-1.7.0 isn't found by LO but
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On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 18:18 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Today I updated my F16 to latest version. After a while I noticed some
> problems with network, I rebooted system and after this my network on
> this box doesn't work anymore.
>
> I use NetworkManager and dhcp. During the updat
On 10/26/2011 06:18 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Today I updated my F16 to latest version. After a while I noticed some
> problems with network, I rebooted system and after this my network on
> this box doesn't work anymore.
>
> I use NetworkManager and dhcp. During the update NetworkMana
W dniu 26 października 2011 18:18 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
napisał:
> Hi,
>
> Today I updated my F16 to latest version. After a while I noticed some
> problems with network, I rebooted system and after this my network on
> this box doesn't work anymore.
Sorry for the noise. This was a problem
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Heiko Adams
wrote:
> is it just me or is java-1.7.0-openjdk breaking LibreOffice java
> detection?
Sounds like it might be related to bug 748585.
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On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:56:18PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 16:44 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > FAS and bodhi are single sign on (iirc, everything on
> > admin.fedoraproject.org).
>
> Well, Bodhi seems to do a damn good job of forgetting you're signed in.
> I've n
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Hi,
is it just me or is java-1.7.0-openjdk breaking LibreOffice java
detection?
On my machine LO only found java-1.5.0 after installing
java-1.7.0-openjdk. Neither java-1.6.0 nor java-1.7.0 were found by
LO. After removing java-1.7.0-openjdk LO foun
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:20:46AM -0400, sami wagiaalla wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The way we currently install Eclipse plugins in Fedora is incorrect and
> somewhat fragile.
>
> RPM places all the plugin artifacts in the proper directories. However
> that does not update the eclipse metadata. This mean
On 2011-10-25 15:17, Adam Williamson wrote:
> It's not just the updates-testing list, though. When I go to the web
> interface, search for updates to, say, grub2, get a list, and click on
> one of the results, I get an ID-based URL, not a package name-based one.
> I then paste that into an email, I
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/682
I've made another attempt to reach out the the glibc maintainer
directly again this morning to hopefully answer the questions in that
ticket as soon as possible, and remind him of the seriousne
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 03:18:42PM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> On 10/26/2011 03:07 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said:
> >> Having said that, the split between /sbin and /bin is not a truly
> >> historical one, ie. it didn't exist in V7. I think it was added by
Hi,
Today I updated my F16 to latest version. After a while I noticed some
problems with network, I rebooted system and after this my network on
this box doesn't work anymore.
I use NetworkManager and dhcp. During the update NetworkManager and
NetworkManager-glib was updated from 1:0.9.1.90-3.git
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 09:30:21AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 10:48 +0200, Farkas Levente wrote:
> > On 10/26/2011 10:45 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > >
> > > I forgot to add that it's probably a good idea to recompile any
> > > package that was compiled against th
On 10/26/2011 11:37 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> On 10/26/2011 09:20 AM, sami wagiaalla wrote:
>> To add support for this in your eclipse package you have to add the
>> following line to your rpm spec file:
>>
>> %_eclipse_pkg [package name]
>
> For what Fedora versions is this applicable to?
>
ra
On 10/26/2011 09:20 AM, sami wagiaalla wrote:
> To add support for this in your eclipse package you have to add the
> following line to your rpm spec file:
>
> %_eclipse_pkg [package name]
For what Fedora versions is this applicable to?
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Hi,
The way we currently install Eclipse plugins in Fedora is incorrect and
somewhat fragile.
RPM places all the plugin artifacts in the proper directories. However
that does not update the eclipse metadata. This means that until the
next time eclipse starts it is unaware of the newly installe
I've got 3 packages languishing in the review queue that I need for a
package update. Would someone swap reviews with me for these?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=719150
flocq - Formalization of floating point numbers for Coq
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=719152
gappal
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If people do start to randomly move executables around to locations
like /usr/lib/PACKAGENAME/PACKAGED or from /sbin to /usr/bin
Make sure the SELinux team knows.
As a matter of fact, any time you move the location of a network
daemon check to make
On Wed 26 Oct 2011 10:14:06 AM EDT, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Brett Lentz wrote:
>
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>> Hello -
>>
>> I've been waiting for someone to review my package submission for
>> about a week now.
>>
>> Request is he
It was pointed out that some changes in GLib 2.31 may cause some fallout
and may be worth calling out explicitly:
- it is no longer possible to include individual headers. If your
package runs into this problem, just replace the problematic includes
with #include
- a number of thread-related api
Matthias Clasen writes:
> On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 16:12 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:06:31AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>>> /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gmacros.h:32:2: error: #error "Only can
>>> be included directly."
>> You are confusing glibc with glib here, the above v
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749167
Jan Pazdziora changed:
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On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 16:12 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:06:31AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gmacros.h:32:2: error: #error "Only can
> > be included directly."
> >
> > or close variants of that. I assume this is another manifestation of
> >
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Brett Lentz wrote:
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> Hello -
>
> I've been waiting for someone to review my package submission for
> about a week now.
>
> Request is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=747050
>
> I'd be happy to d
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:06:31AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gmacros.h:32:2: error: #error "Only can
> be included directly."
>
> or close variants of that. I assume this is another manifestation of
> the same bug being discussed here ... or have the glibc guys managed
"Richard W.M. Jones" writes:
> I forgot to add that it's probably a good idea to recompile any
> package that was compiled against the -13 glibc package.
BTW, if this is the case, why is 2.14.90-13 still in rawhide?
Shouldn't we assume that every build done recently in rawhide is tainted?
I've s
On 10/26/2011 03:40 PM, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> On 10/24/2011 08:05 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>>> ===
>>> #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2011-10-24)
>>> ===
>>> * Discussion about https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove
>>> (t8m,
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Hello -
I've been waiting for someone to review my package submission for
about a week now.
Request is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=747050
I'd be happy to do a review swap or make some other deal to get my
package reviewed.
Tha
On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 13:39 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> It also makes system scripts more fragile; for example, if somebody
> installs (from source) a different version of python in /usr/local/bin,
> all RPM-installed scripts in /usr/bin (that may not even work with that
> version) will now use th
On 10/26/2011 03:22 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Harald Hoyer said:
>> For daemons, which should not be called directly on the command line, I
>> would suggest to move them to /usr/lib// anyway.
>
> That's what /usr/libexec is for. /usr/lib{,64} is for libraries and
> such, not exec
On 10/26/2011 03:22 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Harald Hoyer said:
>> For daemons, which should not be called directly on the command line, I
>> would suggest to move them to /usr/lib// anyway.
>
> That's what /usr/libexec is for. /usr/lib{,64} is for libraries and
> such, not exec
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 08:22:06AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Harald Hoyer said:
> > For daemons, which should not be called directly on the command line, I
> > would suggest to move them to /usr/lib// anyway.
>
> That's what /usr/libexec is for. /usr/lib{,64} is for librarie
Once upon a time, Harald Hoyer said:
> About "sbin": How exactly does "hiding" stuff prevent users, who open a
> _shell_, to use those tools? They cannot do any bad stuff with it anyway.
It isn't about hiding, it is about not putting tools in your PATH that
you generally can't use anyway.
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On 10/24/2011 08:05 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>> ===
>> #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2011-10-24)
>> ===
>>* Discussion about https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove
>> (t8m, 17:26:45)
>
Sometimes you have to clean up your ro
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 10:48 +0200, Farkas Levente wrote:
> On 10/26/2011 10:45 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >
> > I forgot to add that it's probably a good idea to recompile any
> > package that was compiled against the -13 glibc package.
> >
> > Strictly speaking, any package that uses a func
On 10/26/2011 03:18 PM, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> On 10/26/2011 03:07 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>> Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said:
>>> Having said that, the split between /sbin and /bin is not a truly
>>> historical one, ie. it didn't exist in V7. I think it was added by
>>> System V which d
Once upon a time, Harald Hoyer said:
> For daemons, which should not be called directly on the command line, I
> would suggest to move them to /usr/lib// anyway.
That's what /usr/libexec is for. /usr/lib{,64} is for libraries and
such, not executables.
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commit 87d9b6f9791c7847e54eec591c52da60f247b36a
Author: Paul Howarth
Date: Wed Oct 26 14:21:02 2011 +0100
The Makefile.PL --skipdeps option is no longer needed
perl-MIME-tools.spec |3 ++-
1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
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diff --git a/perl-MIME-tools.spec b/perl-MI
On 10/26/2011 03:07 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said:
>> Having said that, the split between /sbin and /bin is not a truly
>> historical one, ie. it didn't exist in V7. I think it was added by
>> System V which did a lot of other strange stuff too.
>
> Well, hist
Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said:
> Having said that, the split between /sbin and /bin is not a truly
> historical one, ie. it didn't exist in V7. I think it was added by
> System V which did a lot of other strange stuff too.
Well, historically, a bunch of system utilities were in odd p
commit 7c24ebef3933a78ca2b7178a7fb3cd25f860b577
Author: Marcela Mašláňová
Date: Wed Oct 26 14:05:22 2011 +0200
own only man pages of this packages (conflict with Perl package)
perl-MIME-tools.spec | 14 --
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diff --git a/pe
Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> If an update has the n-e-v-r changed, the n-e-v-r being replaced is not
> likely to ever be used in a different future update. So each update could
> maintain a list of all n-e-v-r's that have ever been associated with it.
> Then make bodhi support URLs for all n-e-v-r's
On 26/10/11 12:45, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Maybe we could do what some sites like kde-apps.org do and default to URLs
> which include BOTH the ID and the packagename-version list, but have Bodhi
> only actually use the ID and ignore the packagename-version entirely.
>
> See e.g.:
> http://kde-apps.o
Adam Williamson wrote:
> Really this is just a tooling question of whether it's overall more
> convenient to have Bodhi use IDs and then implement convenience
> scripts/tools wherever we refer to the updates which can identify them -
> like a bot in IRC, and a modification to the updates-testing em
Adam Williamson wrote:
> In case you hadn't noticed, response to this has so far been pretty
> negative. It seems people liked being able to tell from the URL what the
> update actually *was*. I must admit I do to. I've resorted to creating
> the 'old-style' URLs manually when I do lists of updates
Compose started at Wed Oct 26 08:16:04 UTC 2011
Broken deps for x86_64
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PackageKit-zif-0.6.19-2.fc16.x86_64 requires zif >= 0:0.2.5
bibletime-2.8.1-1.fc16.x86_64 requires libclucene.so.0()(64bit)
cluster-snmp-0.18.7-
Zoltan Kota wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Ankur Sinha
> wrote:
>> Just wondering if we have another reference tool in the repos? Anyone?
>
> Bibus, pybliographer?
There's also KBibTex (which was recently ported from kdelibs 3 to kdelibs 4,
the current Fedora 14 and 15 updates have
Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> I'm not convinced yet this is a glibc issue. It could be a problem in
> the threaded work-queue code in git-grep which is just exposed by the
> change in glibc. No one will know until we finally diagnose the bug.
The analysis in the bug is now that this is indeed a bu
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 06:26:13PM -0400, Luke Macken wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 02:59:51PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 17:18 -0400, Luke Macken wrote:
> > > bodhi v0.8.3
> > >
> > >
> > > Yesterday I pushed out a new bugfix release of bodhi into prod
Reindl Harald wrote:
> but with subversion 1.7 the format in teh working directory
> is changed and the kde-kontextmenu will no longer offer
> display of history and missing some other entries
> http://subversion.apache.org/docs/release-notes/1.7.html#wc-ng
The release notes also say that working
On 10/26/2011 10:45 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>
> I forgot to add that it's probably a good idea to recompile any
> package that was compiled against the -13 glibc package.
>
> Strictly speaking, any package that uses a function that is defined
> with __THROW or __NTH in the glibc header file
Dne 25.10.2011 20:24, Michał Piotrowski napsal(a):
> W dniu 25 października 2011 09:26 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
> napisał:
>> W dniu 25 października 2011 09:20 użytkownik Harald Hoyer
>> napisał:
>>> On 10/24/2011 10:12 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
In any case
#!/usr/bin/env sh
>>
I forgot to add that it's probably a good idea to recompile any
package that was compiled against the -13 glibc package.
Strictly speaking, any package that uses a function that is defined
with __THROW or __NTH in the glibc header files, but it's probably
easier to compile every package.
Is ther
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:36:57PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> [...] but /bin/mount won't mount it even if I own both the image and the
> mount point.
You can mount things that the administrator has set up for you in
/etc/fstab.
Having said that, the split between /sbin and /bin is not a truly
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