Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Daniel Drake wrote: >> Summary: GNOME hardcodes DPI to 96 regardless of X configuration. > > This is very broken. Gnome: Reliving Window's horrible past, one emulated bug at a time. At least we can be thankful that unlike windows, gnome doe

Re: Is there a mono developer in the house? Need help building moonlight.

2011-09-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard Shaw wrote: > I was afraid that would be the answer :) Ah, another mailing list to > subscribe to... If it weren't for gmail I'd already be buried under a > mountain of emails! http://www.gmane.org/ Connect with your favorite NNTP (Usenet newsgroup) client. (I use KNode. Gmane mailing li

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Daniel Drake wrote: > Summary: GNOME hardcodes DPI to 96 regardless of X configuration. This is very broken. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Felix Miata wrote: > I think it's become clear over the past couple of years that the Gnome and > KDE devs have decided they're controlling a playgound rather than software > for users to be productive with What does KDE have to do with this? KDE honors your screen's physical DPI by default. (It

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > However, it now has a text scaling factor in gsettings that I was not > aware of. So I guess I just need to find an appropriate factor that > makes fonts look OK on the XO. One problem faced here is that (as noted earlier) Cantarell behaves

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Jef Spaleta wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: >> Or >> http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-settings-daemon/branches/gnome-2-24/plugins/xsettings/gsd-xsettings-manager.c?view=markup#249 >> (line 249)? > > I'm not sure that's relevant for

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > Or > http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-settings-daemon/branches/gnome-2-24/plugins/xsettings/gsd-xsettings-manager.c?view=markup#249 > (line 249)? I'm not sure that's relevant for the current codebase. But even so if you look at 73-75 the h

smolt query help

2011-09-30 Thread Bill McGonigle
Hi, Can somebody help me figure out how to do a smolt query for filesystem device information? The question has come up on bug 54 whether /boot on md is a corner case or not. Smolt seems ready-made to answer questions like this. If I print my desktop's smolt profile I get: /dev/md0 /

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Beta is GOLD!

2011-09-30 Thread Horst H. von Brand
Tim Flink wrote: > At the Fedora 16 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting yesterday, the Fedora 16 Beta > release was declared GOLD! Fedora 16 beta will be released on Tuesday, > October 4, 2011. > > Major thanks to everyone who made this happen. There is no way that we > could have gotten all this done without

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 02:59:58PM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Nicolas Mailhot > wrote: > > Someone Gnome-side decided to not trust xorg dpi and added a new heuristic > > to > > 'correct' it > > I know this is part of a rant.. but any chance you could quantify t

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/09/11 17:12, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2011/09/30 11:09 (GMT-0400) Peter Robinson composed: > >> can you provide an >> explanation of the changes and the rationale behind them? > > I think it's become clear over the past couple of years that the Gnome and > KDE devs have decided they're contr

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Jos Vos
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:12:45PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > I think it's become clear over the past couple of years that the Gnome and > KDE devs have decided they're controlling a playgound rather than software > for users to be productive with, expecting those who don't like their silly >

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/09/30 11:09 (GMT-0400) Peter Robinson composed: > can you provide an > explanation of the changes and the rationale behind them? I think it's become clear over the past couple of years that the Gnome and KDE devs have decided they're controlling a playgound rather than software for use

Re: Is there a mono developer in the house? Need help building moonlight.

2011-09-30 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > There's also a mono list:: >  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/mono > > -Toshio I was afraid that would be the answer :) Ah, another mailing list to subscribe to... If it weren't for gmail I'd already be buried under a mou

exiv2-0.22 coming to rawhide

2011-09-30 Thread Rex Dieter
I'll be introducing exiv2-0.22 to rawhide next week, testing of affected packages is underday, and so far, so good... so I don't anticipate problems. repoquery --repoid=rawhide-source --archlist=src \ --whatrequires exiv2-devel | sort darktable-0:0.9.2-1.fc17.src geeqie-0:1.0-11.fc17.src geg

[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Beta is GOLD!

2011-09-30 Thread Tim Flink
At the Fedora 16 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting yesterday, the Fedora 16 Beta release was declared GOLD! Fedora 16 beta will be released on Tuesday, October 4, 2011. Major thanks to everyone who made this happen. There is no way that we could have gotten all this done without everyone's hard work and assis

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 15:47 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > >> >> There's nothing to do apart from waiting for enough complains to pile up the >> people in charge get past their reality denial phase. >> > > This thread could have let to so

Re: Is there a mono developer in the house? Need help building moonlight.

2011-09-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
There's also a mono list:: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/mono -Toshio On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 09:53:02AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > I'm trying to package moonlight for possible inclusion at RPM Fusion > but I'm having some issues. > > 1. pkg-config problem: > > I'm curren

Is there a mono developer in the house? Need help building moonlight.

2011-09-30 Thread Richard Shaw
I'm trying to package moonlight for possible inclusion at RPM Fusion but I'm having some issues. 1. pkg-config problem: I'm currently working on version 2.4.1 moonlight since it's the latest stable. It apparently is supposed to work with mono 2.6 but 2.10 is what F15 has, hopefully 2.6 is only a

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 15:47 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > There's nothing to do apart from waiting for enough complains to pile up the > people in charge get past their reality denial phase. > This thread could have let to something constructive... but not so much anymore now, I guess. Good

[Test-Announce] 2011-09-30 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Final Blocker Bug Review #1

2011-09-30 Thread Tim Flink
# F16 Final Blocker Review meeting #1 # Date: 2011-09-30 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net I apologize for the late notice on this - we usually don't start on the blocker review meetings until the week after beta. However, we already ha

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Someone Gnome-side decided to not trust xorg dpi and added a new heuristic to > 'correct' it I know this is part of a rant.. but any chance you could quantify that point with a link to a commit, blog post, mailing list discussion, somethin

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Ven 30 septembre 2011 12:00, Daniel Drake a écrit : > Can anyone help me understand this behaviour? There's nothing to understand – this is a new major GNOME release, with developers that know better than everyone else, and solve problems by ignoring past experience and hardcoding their own

Re: unison formal review

2011-09-30 Thread Tom Callaway
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/30/2011 01:38 PM, Gregor Tätzner wrote: > so many creative ideas ;) > > But I think such a program would be confusing to users: When > someone wants to install unison, he expects the package will > install unison and a menu entry. And not a unis

Re: GDBM upgrade in F17

2011-09-30 Thread Honza Horak
On 09/30/2011 11:07 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: > Perl has been rebuilt _without_ GDBM in F17 as perl-5.14.1-191.fc17 and > it's available in build root now. > > -- Petr > The new gdbm-1.9.1-1 has just landed in Fedora Rawhide. Please, re-build your package(s) if depends on gdbm. Also python and perl

rawhide report: 20110930 changes

2011-09-30 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Sep 30 08:16:02 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc17.i686 requires libicuuc.so.46 389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc17.i686 requires libicui18n.so.46 389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc17.i686 require

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/09/30 13:14 (GMT+0100) Daniel Drake composed: > Felix Miata wrote: >> Sounds to me like your F14 is using correct DPI while your F16 is forced to >> 96. Does your F14 have /etc/X11/xorg.conf file or a non-empty >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/? > Bad DPI could certainly be a cause. However,

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > Sounds to me like your F14 is using correct DPI while your F16 is forced to > 96. Does your F14 have /etc/X11/xorg.conf file or a non-empty > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/? Bad DPI could certainly be a cause. However, xdpyinfo reports the correct val

Re: unison formal review

2011-09-30 Thread Gregor Tätzner
Am Freitag, 30. September 2011, 11:10:27 schrieb Tom Callaway: > On 09/28/2011 11:00 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > I checked the source code, and unison sends a header which contains > > the current major version number of the software (where "major > > version" is a string, currently "2.40").

[perl-YAML-LibYAML] 0.37 bump

2011-09-30 Thread Petr Sabata
commit 3638c5f428d5ae33d0a1d35ae8166288b0eddf77 Author: Petr Sabata Date: Fri Sep 30 13:15:07 2011 +0200 0.37 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-YAML-LibYAML.spec | 40 +++- sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 33 insertions(+),

File YAML-LibYAML-0.37.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2011-09-30 Thread Petr Sabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-YAML-LibYAML: 8ce120ca473c58eb0abf28fa19fdb460 YAML-LibYAML-0.37.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mai

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/09/30 11:00 (GMT+0100) Daniel Drake composed: > I'm working on bringing OLPC up-to-date with all the great efforts > with GNOME 3, systemd, etc. > On the OLPC XO laptops we have quite a strange screen - it is small > (152mm x 114mm) but very high resolution (1200x900 i.e. 201 dots per > i

GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, I'm working on bringing OLPC up-to-date with all the great efforts with GNOME 3, systemd, etc. On the OLPC XO laptops we have quite a strange screen - it is small (152mm x 114mm) but very high resolution (1200x900 i.e. 201 dots per inch). Previously, on Fedora 14, we had to adjust the defaul

Re: unison formal review

2011-09-30 Thread Tom Callaway
On 09/28/2011 11:00 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > I checked the source code, and unison sends a header which contains > the current major version number of the software (where "major > version" is a string, currently "2.40"). If the major versions of > each end don't exactly match, unison aborts

Re: GDBM upgrade in F17

2011-09-30 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2011-09-21, Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2011-09-21, Petr Pisar wrote: >> >> That means Perl, Pyhon and other default-build-root packages will >> disable support for GDBM temporarily. So if your package needs GDBM >> support in those languages, please wait until new GDMB and other >> packages (Perl,